BamaD
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ORIGINAL: BamaD You have this silly and deluded grasp of reality. So I'll stated it....AGAIN....for about the 17th time: I really do not wish firearms to be ban. It will not do this nation a whole lot of good. But you can not understand the concept. Because it requires you to be a FUCKING ADULT! No, not officially, but you want annual mental health evaluations and punitive taxes that would put them out of the reach of all but the rich. You have not officially determined if you have a grip on reality? You might want to re-think that train of thought, BamaD. Particularly in light of what is being discussed. We require police officers to have a physical, mental, and emotional health check. They would be the closest understanding of "A well regulated militia...." as stated in the 2nd amendment. So if you want to have a firearm, and the protection of the 2nd amendment, then its only fair you under go the same exact process. After all, all persons are equal under the law. Punitive damages take place if the FBI determined the gun you purchased showed up at a crime scene and you lack a REALLY good alibi to explain the situation. I was using the idea of someone unscrupulous-type whom buys guns at a gun show in a series of shady business transactions, then resells them to criminals for a marked up price. The people that sold the guns to the unscrupulous type person, would have to explain to the FBI, WHOM they sold it to. That would make for much more honest trading of dangerous tools, would it not? It allows for honest business transactions between merchant and buyer of a firearm. So if the gun 'disappears', the merchant is at least protected from wrong doing because they can point out whom had the firearm after it left their possession. If your an honest and law abiding citizen with a gun, you should have nothing to hide in the translation, right? If the FBI finds you had five guns mysteriously disappear and two show up later at two different crime scenes; should society think your....still....honest? quote:
ORIGINAL: BamaD You claim, and tell yourself that you don't want a ban but you argue for things that constitute a defacto ban. Like what? Two weeks is a ban on a firearm? Why do you need the firearm so soon BamaD? Got something to hide in your background? Did that doctor propertly identify your depression illness and preventing you from obtaining the gun to kill yourself? Purchasing insurance, like most do with cars. Because accidents do often happen. You want to lose your house because some stupid kid got a hold of your gun and shot someone in a leg? Got something wrong with taking classes on firearm safety, usage, storage, and cleaning? These are all reasonable concepts that could be made into laws. quote:
ORIGINAL: BamaD Remember telling me that 4000 dollar just to be able to buy a gun wasn't at all excesive, and would be a good thing? Yes, do you remember the rest of it? Rather important. That if firearms cost more, gun owners would be less likely to part with their arms to shady and untrustworthy types. The goal is to keep firearms in honest and lawful hands, NOT, criminal ones. By making it cost more, an honest and law abiding citizen will pay for a gun like they do any other sale. But it raises the prices on the black market for the same gun. Meaning, its harder for criminals to obtain those guns. That's what we both want, right? Less guns in criminals hands? So what do we do with this 'tax'? It'll generate a pile load of money. How about funding the Wounded Warrior Project and other programs like it? And best of all it would keep people from being able to buy them, limiting ownership to the rich. It is an elitist approach to guns. And for the vast majority it would constitute a ban. Saying the tax "could" be used for something like wounded warrior is a smokescreen to tell yourself it would be good. Just like saying that when you price them out of most peoples reach they would be more careful with them. It doesn't matter how careful they would be if you see to it they can't afford them in the first place.
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Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.
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