DaddySatyr
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The problem with this sort of report LC is that it won't really reach mainstream media because so few Muslims attended.
If the Muslim community as a whole are rejecting what Daesh stands for, you'd think there would be a lot more attending and more than just a token rally.
Given that there are nearly 3 million Muslims in England alone (2.7m as of 2011 census), a few thousand on a rally is hardly big news.
I think the problem with half-hearted protests from the Muslims is that many, secretly, actually support most of the extremist views to do with Islam with the exception of the obvious open displays of violence posted on social media sites.
There are about two dozen Muslim families around here (mainly Iranian or Pakistani) and while we were out at the local shop last night, I asked a few of them about the current Islam confusion that is being disseminated.
Just about all of them support the idea of arranged marriages.
Most of them support the notion of honour killings and think it is the right thing to do for family values.
Most prefer (and take notice of) the rulings of an illegal Sharia court over our established judiciary.
Most support the Islamic views of the marrying of girls at a very young age.
Almost all support the idea that the man rules the woman in all aspects of life - including punishment beatings.
All of them would prefer an Islamic madrassa-style school rather than our state-run schools.
All of them, without exception, think that other religions are just plain wrong.
And by 'most', I am referring to where there were more than 80% affirmative and only the odd one or two that disagreed or wouldn't answer.
Not exactly a scientific study and a small sample size with people I know well enough to actually ask those sort of questions.
But it does show (at least for those around here) the way they feel and think about our western society.
They like all the freebies - the free healthcare and social housing, free schooling and our benefits system.
Beyond that, they would prefer an Islamic-style rule with Sharia law and Sharia courts.
Just goes to show that not all Muslims support what is being reported by the 'moderate' Muslims.
I got the distinct feeling that there is an underlying current of western resentment where things conflict with Islamic teachings or because they see them as 'Christian' views.
I need to chime in, here. fd, you and I agree on immigration, for the most part and I think we agree on the threat posed by radical islam extremism.
I grew up in New York City in a borough where there was a large Jewish community. For example, while divorce was rare, when it happened, the ruling of the state court meant nothing to the Hasidim. There was a rabbinical court that handed down a ruling (and sometimes, they refused the divorce). The rabbinical court made it clear that the state court was to be obeyed (child support, etc.), but that they were a "higher" authority when it came to being divorced in the Jewish faith.
I have no issue with that. They obeyed civil law and God's law (as they understood it). To my knowledge, all of the people that participated in that religion and the rabbinical council were willing participants. They didn't try to convert any of us. They certainly didn't adhere to a "convert or die", scorched earth policy.
Honestly, I don't particularly care if Muslims don't want to allow their young girls to go to school in their own country , but if they want to live here, they have to be made to assimilate to some degree . Most devout Muslims reject this idea.
I first noticed it amongst the Latino community where they would come here; either legally or illegally and have the unmitigated gall to insist that we speak their language and add expense to our government proceedings by insisting that our government print all official paperwork in their language, as well.
My grandparents were immigrants and they never did that. They learned the language because they wanted to live here.
It seems that most of the Muslim immigrants don't really want to live here; they want to come here, make a (comparative) ton of money than they could make in their native land, live to a higher standard and then turn our neighborhoods into the same kind of third-world shit hole they left.
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