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freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Would people defend Hijab wearing women being beaten in public? (12/15/2015 8:37:10 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Staleek
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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
Probably not Peon because an awful lot of Islamic women don't report it because it is expected of them to accept such behaviour as 'normal'.
Western women, on the other hand, have accepted that it is not acceptable and are increasingly reporting such incidents.
So, like any other conspiracy theorist, you'll actually manufacture theories to fit with your warped world-view when the actual data doesn't support it.
Just like Greta, this is an extremely religious mindset.
Not exactly, because I'm not religious or even spiritual.
We see it reported increasingly among Islamic support groups where some women are managing to find a voice.
Wikislam has some figures about Islamic violence against women.
About half-way down the page it says -
In summation, we find in the Hadiths:
Muhammad provided tacit approval of wife beating by not scolding Muslims for beating their wives
Muhammad referred to women who spoke-out against abuse as "not the best among you"
Muhammad forbid Muslims from questioning men who beat their wives
Muhammad allowed others to hit his wives (the very women whom all Muslims adore and refer to as "the Mother of believers")
Three of the four Rightly-Guided Caliphs beat women
Muhammad reaffirms the command of wife-beating in his parting sermon
Muhammad himself struck his wife in the chest
It is clear from all of the above that wife-beating has been an accepted part of Islam since its inception. Muhammad was not against domestic violence and indeed permitted wife-beating in Islam.
It goes on to give figures from various Islamic countries and the majority of reported violence to the women are way up there in percentage terms.
Headlines such as -
Nearly 90 percent of Afghan women suffer from domestic abuse.
Statistics in Iran show that 66% of Iranian women, at the beginning of the marriage have been at least physically abused once
91% of university students polled by the Jordanian Human Right Center approve of wife beating. An earlier study by another organization found out that a majority of WOMEN also supports the right of a husband to beat the wife
A study published in June 2006 in the Journal of the Pakistan Medical Association, based on interviews with 300 women admitted to hospital for childbirth, said 80 percent reported being subjected to some kind of abuse within marriage.
One in three wives in Qatar suffer physical or psychological violence from the side of their husband.
London-based Refugee Workers Association Woman’s Group (GIK-DER) revealed disturbing news last week [in November, 2006] that up to 80% Turkish and Kurdish women are victims of domestic violence and sexual harassment. At the same time 70% of Turkish and Kurdish husbands cheat on their wives.
41.9 percent of Turkish women are subjected to physical and sexual violence.
Violence against women in the home is the main emergency needed to be tackled by the Mediterranean's southern shores. The phenomenon affects between 40% and 75% of married women, who suffer mainly at the hands of their husbands.
The figures, compared to non-Islamic countries is horrendous.
Yes, we have violence against women in the west, we all know that it happens.
But I don't see the levels as we are slowly discovering within the Islamic communities.
And to answer Lucy's post#26, I recently had to go to a women's shelter to collect my step-daughter who was there visiting a friend. Most of the women in there (much more than half) looked to be of Afghan/Pakistani type appearance and I make the sweeping assumption that most of them are Islamic.
And yes, there are thousands of battered women of ALL races and religions.
It just seems that now we are managing to get some Islamic figures from brave Muslim women willing to put their head above the parapet, the levels of violence within Islam is much higher than those of other beliefs.
It's not Islamophobia, it's Islamic facts - at least those we are getting reported in recent times.
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