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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
the entire black lives matter movement is a farce.
First, Factually speaking, the number of police killings of blacks is miniscule to black on black violence.

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Second, The racial profiling that occurs is a reasonable result of the experience of cops. When 13% of the population is committing 55% of the crime expect cops attitudes to develop accordingly.

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Third. Its no one's job other than you - to make sure your life matters. You want your life to matter - get off welfare, get a job, make a difference

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
the entire black lives matter movement is a farce.
First, Factually speaking, the number of police killings of blacks is miniscule to black on black violence.

The police are entrusted with the safety of all citizens. The rate at which a black person is killed by a police officer has nothing to do with the rate at which black citizens are killing other black citizens. Your statement is implying that it's okay because they are worse. I don't know that I believe you truly believe that way, and I would hope you do not. As long as police on black violence isn't for the same reasons as black on black violence, I think we would agree, that would be great (and I'm not implying that it is for the same reasons).

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Second, The racial profiling that occurs is a reasonable result of the experience of cops. When 13% of the population is committing 55% of the crime expect cops attitudes to develop accordingly.

I doubt it's really 55%. That said, I don't doubt that 13% of the population is only committing 13% of the crime.

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Third. Its no one's job other than you - to make sure your life matters. You want your life to matter - get off welfare, get a job, make a difference

I think the public educational system is failing the black and/or poor community worse than we know. I continually hear stories from teachers, about other teachers passing kids on to the next grade before the student is actually ready academically. When that happens, it makes it that much more difficult for that student to catch up with his/her peers. Get enough teachers shirking the standards, and you'll have blacks and/or poor adults who are not ready for a job, and it's not necessarily that adult's fault.

It's true that black lives matter. It's just part of the truth, however, that all lives matter.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I was with you until the welfare comment...sure there are blacks on welfare and some that are taking advantage of the system as well but you can hardly accuse a whole race, or black matters protesters, of being on welfare and unemployed.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Black Lives Matter is a myth. All Lives Matter

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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43
Saying all blacks shouldn't do crimes if they don't want police brutality is completely racist. ALL black people are treated badly by LEOs regularly in their lives. Tried asking any?? It's hardly just the young aggressive urban male who is mistreated or worse.
The basic racist attitude goes further than most imagine. The study illuminating why a 13 yr old black with a toy rifle was shot repeatedly seconds after the LEO arrived on scene shows how American police (White and black) see blacks a bigger, more physically dangerous and older than they appear if skin color is changed: http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/03/black-boys-older.aspx
And any adult black person knows those past the age of youthful urban street criminality Never escape the suspicion or outright mistreatment. "Driving While Black" doesn't change when you become a grandfather. It's part of being a visible and discriminated against minority in the USA.
What white woman has been cavity searched in public and then thrown in jail for days for an illegal lane change? And failure to put out a cigarette?? (If she'd rolled up the window, locked the doors and called 911 for another Real policemen immediately, she'd still be alive.) Asking for your basic rights is well understood in the black community to be dangerous if not fatal 'uppity' behavior.
Of course all lives matter. It's way past time that black lives are included in the equation.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Their lives matter as much as anyone elses.
Its a shame that people have used BLM to promote even more ignorance amongst the people who have an issue with them already.
I guess its easier for some people to ignore reality than to open their minds

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

yeah we dont agree. you continue to lay the problem at others feet and deny your own need for participation in the problem.
Doing nothing but bitch about minorities, no matter whether they are, poor women, brown people, muslims, ad nauseam. and ignore reality and expect it to all just happen IS your problem
you are, and so are many of your "friends" are the biggest part of the problem. Apart from bad cops.
YMMV
Your arrogant attempt at superiority really doesnt work, wash or look pretty.
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

In the UK, people who are out of work receive help no matter if the father is still in the home.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Most of you are deliberately ignoring the deliberate destabilization of black families.

In the UK, people who are out of work receive help no matter if the father is still in the home. For over 60 years, black women were not eligible for aid if their husbands were home.

Recidivism rates of criminals are far reduced if during prison they are put into group therapy that addresses this.

We know that children are far more likely to succeed if they come from two parent families. When it was made impossible for blacks to have two parents at home, the results were predictable. Higher gang rates, higher drop out rates, higher criminalization rates.

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Black Lives Matter is a myth. All Lives Matter

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Most of you are deliberately ignoring the deliberate destabilization of black families.

In the UK, people who are out of work receive help no matter if the father is still in the home. For over 60 years, black women were not eligible for aid if their husbands were home.

Recidivism rates of criminals are far reduced if during prison they are put into group therapy that addresses this.

We know that children are far more likely to succeed if they come from two parent families. When it was made impossible for blacks to have two parents at home, the results were predictable. Higher gang rates, higher drop out rates, higher criminalization rates.

do you know, from what I can tell, based just on the words you have in the post, it sounds very much like you are saying the "impossibility" of a two parent home for blacks is a resultant of the government not supporting black families.

or put another way, no sarcasm intended, father says to mother, "its impossible for me to stay since the government wont help us while im here, so i'll be leaving now and likely wont ever be coming back."

who are the "deliberate" culprits in your equation and why are they purposely destabilizing black families? (and apparently only black families?)

ann coulter has written a bit about the single mother phenomena and what it does to kids...I may be able to find some.

I trust this is at least some of it:

https://scottthong.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/ann-coulters-statistics-on-single-motherhood-and-the-suffering-it-causes/

http://rightwingnews.com/top-news/ann-coulter-on-single-mothers-the-statistics-from-guilty/