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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 8:22:32 AM   
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I don't understand why a woman won't meet a local man, say at a coffee shop, just to see if they "click." It just takes 20 minutes out of her schedule. She could probably meet 10 men in one week. Surely, out of the 10 men, there would be one she would "click" with. Yet, most women don't meet any men and then they complain that they can't find anyone. That's just crazy.

Now if a woman said, "I met 10 different men last week at a coffee shop and I didn't "click" with any of them" then that would be a different story.

However, most women meet ZERO men and complain that they can't meet anyone.

Don't you agree?



Are you by any chance referring to yourself?

Don't know where you are coming from. Whenever I've advertised myself as available, I always get offers to meet for coffee or a chat, and I don't particularly sell myself or consider myself as particularly "hot property".

It's not even a man/woman thing, women usually ask me.

Is there a distant possibility that you are coming on too strong, want too much too soon, or have too many preconditions? I never meet for the purpose of a date; I just meet people I think I will get on with. Then you never lose. Something may or may not come of it - a friendship, maybe something more.

Do you think these woman track you down on CS and see you moaning about women all the time and going on about how they never do what you want? It's always possible that might put some people off.

You don't seem to like women very much. Maybe that comes across in what you say as well as in what you write.

Or maybe you are just making a generalised, but poorly researched, statement?

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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 8:27:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

This is what I like about forums - there is always something to learn.
I had no idea it took women so much time, energy and effort just to meet someone at a coffee shop.




I stopped meeting guys off this site in coffee shops, because after spending 30 minutes getting ready, 30 minutes driving there, and then waiting 20 minutes (10 before the meet time, 10 afterwards) all 4 of the ones I tried to meet there flaked and didn't shop up.
Then it's 30 minutes driving back home, and another 10 minutes to deal with the email they sent with some bullshit excuse as to why they flaked but want to continue talking online.

That's 2 hours out of my day with guys not showing up.

I don't meet guys in coffee shops anymore.

You want to meet me? I'll let you know when I'll be in the local kink club, and you're welcome to show up and come talk to me there.
And if you don't show? I'll be busy playing the rest of the night without missing you for a second...

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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 8:47:49 AM   
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"It may just take 20 minutes out of YOUR schedule. You just pull on your wife-beater T, comb your hair (maybe), do a quick dry electric Gillette once-over (maybe)."

Are you a scorned woman? Or, is it menopause?





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quote:

ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom
I don't understand why a woman won't meet a local man, say at a coffee shop, just to see if they "click." It just takes 20 minutes out of her schedule. She could probably meet 10 men in one week. Surely, out of the 10 men, there would be one she would "click" with. Yet, most women don't meet any men and then they complain that they can't find anyone. That's just crazy.

Now if a woman said, "I met 10 different men last week at a coffee shop and I didn't "click" with any of them" then that would be a different story.

However, most women meet ZERO men and complain that they can't meet anyone.

Don't you agree?


Allow me to de-mansplain this for you.

You don't understand why women won't agree to meet YOU. . . . How soon do you bring up the subject? Men who are in a rush come across as desperate and needy. Big turn-off.

It may just take 20 minutes out of YOUR schedule. You just pull on your wife-beater T, comb your hair (maybe), do a quick dry electric Gillette once-over (maybe).
Many women, on the other hand, have to plan in advance with getting our hair styled or touched up. Perhaps even a new manicure.
We may have a favorite outfit that has to be drycleaned. Or, there are some who will want to pick up a new piece for the season to update their wardrobe, shop for a stylish pair of new shoes. . . . Put our car through the carwash. . . .
Therefore, we are assessing in our minds, are YOU WORTH going to the trouble to meet?

Meeting men is not like having a revolving door at Grand Central Station.

As for your statement that "most women don't meet any men" -- let me rephrase that for you. Most women don't want to meet just any man.
Further, on what basis are you alleging that "most women meet ZERO men"? How would you know this?
Are you sure you aren't hearing women say that they are meeting NO men they have any interest in? Men who turn out to be ZEROs in terms of what they're looking for, that is.

So rather than pointing the finger at "most" women for not accommodating YOUR whims or your ass-backwards way of going about things, you should be asking yourself what it is that YOU are doing wrong in making yourself not meet-worthy?

Btw, if a lady told me that she met 10 men last week and didn't click with any of them, she would know that she was doing something wrong and spinning her wheels.

Your approach may be to take shots in the dark and not place much value on your time, or not care about wasting gas and other limited resources, since you choose to play the odds, figuring that you might have 1 chance in 10 so what the hell.
That isn't how "most" women approach life in such a cavalier fashion -- to us, 1 in 10 odds of success are sucky odds. We like for the deck to be stacked in our favor. (And so will a man who has reached any acceptable level of emotional maturity.)


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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 8:51:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

This is what I like about forums - there is always something to learn.
I had no idea it took women so much time, energy and effort just to meet someone at a coffee shop.




I stopped meeting guys off this site in coffee shops, because after spending 30 minutes getting ready, 30 minutes driving there, and then waiting 20 minutes (10 before the meet time, 10 afterwards) all 4 of the ones I tried to meet there flaked and didn't shop up.
Then it's 30 minutes driving back home, and another 10 minutes to deal with the email they sent with some bullshit excuse as to why they flaked but want to continue talking online.

That's 2 hours out of my day with guys not showing up.

I don't meet guys in coffee shops anymore.

You want to meet me? I'll let you know when I'll be in the local kink club, and you're welcome to show up and come talk to me there.
And if you don't show? I'll be busy playing the rest of the night without missing you for a second...


Seems sensible to me.

At least people can have the decency to say they don't want to or aren't ready to meet before an arrangement is made. I've never not met anyone after making an arrangement ever, but I know that's not the normal pattern on CS.

I have to admit I tend not to see CS as a way of meeting people so the question rarely arises, but with regard to the OP, generally it's not difficult to find ways to meet people, or spend time with people you have already met.

You just have to be willing to spend time and not hit the erotic/marital/intellectual/playmate jackpot (delete as appropriate) every time.

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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 9:01:58 AM   
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There is probably one munch in California right?

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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 9:07:23 AM   
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California a hotbed or kink and BDSM I would lay odds he never been to a munch, BDSM/Kink club of some kind or what is that big ole do in San Francisco?

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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 12:54:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

This is what I like about forums - there is always something to learn.
I had no idea it took women so much time, energy and effort just to meet someone at a coffee shop.




I had no idea it took one musclebounddom to ask the same question "why doesn't anyone want to do what I want because I'm such a jerk?" So many different ways?

If you actually like learning, why haven't you learned from your past mistakes and attitudes? And then you come back here and ask why isn't this working, when the simple rule of cause-and-effect should have told you something.

Or somehow do you think the rule of what constitutes insanity does not apply to you?

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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 1:12:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

I don't understand why a woman won't meet a local man, say at a coffee shop, just to see if they "click." It just takes 20 minutes out of her schedule. She could probably meet 10 men in one week. Surely, out of the 10 men, there would be one she would "click" with. Yet, most women don't meet any men and then they complain that they can't find anyone. That's just crazy.

Now if a woman said, "I met 10 different men last week at a coffee shop and I didn't "click" with any of them" then that would be a different story.

However, most women meet ZERO men and complain that they can't meet anyone.

Don't you agree?


The only one complaining is you. Show up at the local munch if you want to meet woman in the lifestyle.

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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 1:27:59 PM   
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"It may just take 20 minutes out of YOUR schedule. You just pull on your wife-beater T, comb your hair (maybe), do a quick dry electric Gillette once-over (maybe)."

Are you a scorned woman? Or, is it menopause?

You missed the inside joke and his earlier rants. OP is a gymrat, says he's a fitness instructor. He still can't understand why overweight female subs aren't jumping through hoops to benefit from his "expertise."

But, since you are getting personal with me, and you have boasted on numerous occasions (within less than a week's time) about the lady who gave up law school to be with you since you ostensibly deem yourself to be such a good catch,
How do you see that as a personal accomplishment of yours?
Your ex gave up the possibility of securing a prestigious future for herself.
What I hear truly supportive men say is that they helped their woman get ahead in life, just like there are many wives/SOs who have worked to help put their husbands/SOs through school, or to get a higher education.

Your idle boasts sound like a man who latched onto a woman like a social climber because she had attained something in life that he never could and would have never been able to accomplish on his own.

Furthermore, all you are advertising is that any woman who gets with you will have to give up more than what she will gain in life, and no doubt she has been ruing the day that she met you and has quite a different story to tell.


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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 3:29:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

I don't understand why a woman won't meet a local man, say at a coffee shop, just to see if they "click."


I'm curious as to where you came up with this assumption that women are not taking the time to meet someone of interest. Can you elaborate on this?



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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 4:51:31 PM   
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@ Dream...has anyone ever thought enough about you, wanted to be with you so much, they gave up their dreams to be with you?

Something of significance, like 6 years of college with one to go, not giving up a job at, I'm lovin it.

"social climber"? You should know better.




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"It may just take 20 minutes out of YOUR schedule. You just pull on your wife-beater T, comb your hair (maybe), do a quick dry electric Gillette once-over (maybe)."

Are you a scorned woman? Or, is it menopause?

You missed the inside joke and his earlier rants. OP is a gymrat, says he's a fitness instructor. He still can't understand why overweight female subs aren't jumping through hoops to benefit from his "expertise."

But, since you are getting personal with me, and you have boasted on numerous occasions (within less than a week's time) about the lady who gave up law school to be with you since you ostensibly deem yourself to be such a good catch,
How do you see that as a personal accomplishment of yours?
Your ex gave up the possibility of securing a prestigious future for herself.
What I hear truly supportive men say is that they helped their woman get ahead in life, just like there are many wives/SOs who have worked to help put their husbands/SOs through school, or to get a higher education.

Your idle boasts sound like a man who latched onto a woman like a social climber because she had attained something in life that he never could and would have never been able to accomplish on his own.

Furthermore, all you are advertising is that any woman who gets with you will have to give up more than what she will gain in life, and no doubt she has been ruing the day that she met you and has quite a different story to tell.


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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 5:41:42 PM   
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Maybe its who I surround myself with- but its been a hot minute since I heard a woman complain about not being able to meet men.

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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 6:06:34 PM   
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@ Dream...has anyone ever thought enough about you, wanted to be with you so much, they gave up their dreams to be with you?

Something of significance, like 6 years of college with one to go, not giving up a job at, I'm lovin it.

Therein lies the difference between someone like you and someone like me.
I would never expect nor would I want a man to give up his dreams to be with me.
That isn't anything to brag about.

So when she would say, I gave up my dreams to be with you, you took kindly to that remark?
(I really would prefer that you didn't answer that - because you want to turn the spotlight onto you in every thread you post on, regardless of subject matter - but predictably, you will.)

The men I've been with have had their dreams fulfilled.
An altogether different experience. Perhaps one day you'll get to have a sublime taste of that.


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"social climber"? You should know better.

If the shoe fits, wear it.
You're not the first and you won't be the last person to live their life vicariously through another.
Nor the first or the last to try to raise yourself up to another's level by putting them down.


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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 6:53:50 PM   
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This is what I like about forums - there is always something to learn.
I had no idea it took women so much time, energy and effort just to meet someone at a coffee shop.

I forgot to include the very important consideration having to do with making babysitting arrangements that a single man like yourself could care less about.
Further, there's that trade off on whether it's worth taking time away from company a woman KNOWS she will enjoy, to spend time wasted on some dude that she'll never get back.

Not your target market, you say. God forbid you ever see stretch marks on a woman from having given birth. That'll change as you get older, as your childless-woman dating pool keeps dwindling.

Not all women invest a lot of thought, time, energy and effort into going out of their way to meet someone new. There are some who don't like to primp or who simply want to be accepted for who/what/how they are, and tough tittie if you don't like it.

Some may not feel the man is worth making any special effort for either. In which case, why should they bother to meet a man they aren't impressed by, a man whom they don't feel much of a need to try to impress (whether it's with physical appearances or their other non-physical attributes)?

Those wouldn't be the type of women who would want anything to do with you, however -- a man who is hypercritical about a woman's physique, a man who wants to get in a woman's business about her exercise regimen, eating habits, and to micromanage whether she DARES to drink a soda behind his back, a man who wants to take credit for how he took an ugly duckling and transformed her into a swan babe.

Then, it will be on to the next female project, isn't that how your kind of Pygmalion fetish works, n'est-ce pas?


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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 7:58:45 PM   
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I stopped meeting guys off this site in coffee shops, because after spending 30 minutes getting ready, 30 minutes driving there, and then waiting 20 minutes (10 before the meet time, 10 afterwards) all 4 of the ones I tried to meet there flaked and didn't shop up.
Then it's 30 minutes driving back home, and another 10 minutes to deal with the email they sent with some bullshit excuse as to why they flaked but want to continue talking online. ...

You want to meet me? I'll let you know when I'll be in the local kink club, and you're welcome to show up and come talk to me there.
And if you don't show? I'll be busy playing the rest of the night without missing you for a second...

I had the opposite experience. The only guy who's flaked on me was supposed to meet me at the Citadel at 9:30. He finally showed up past midnight, and was peeved that I wouldn't play with him (partly because I was annoyed that he was so late, partly due to my having a volunteer shift starting in a little over a half hour from then). I haven't had anyone flake on a coffee/dinner/other vanilla date so far.


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ORIGINAL: longwayhome
At least people can have the decency to say they don't want to or aren't ready to meet before an arrangement is made. I've never not met anyone after making an arrangement ever, but I know that's not the normal pattern on CS.

I've had to reschedule twice, once due to having to go out of town unexpectedly, the other time because I got sick, and didn't want to spend the whole time coughing and sneezing at him! Both men were understanding about it, and I did meet them subsequently. I had started to reschedule one other date, due to a doctor appointment conflict, but since I've started seeing someone, I decided not to meet him after all. I did call and let him know ahead of time, rather than just flake, though.


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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/21/2016 8:20:53 PM   
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They should probably meet only the ones they click with first...lucylastic beat to me that one.

Sadly on fetish sites, swingers,sex sites, most of those 10 men are in a relationship already, and omit that detail from their profiles, and I doubt more than 0-2 per 10 would ever show up. And most men on these places view a women as a hole/object. Single site tend to sit around 50% people married attached in a relationship or using their "friends pictures"

Summary genuine single women looking for a relationship are rare and they have to filter through 100-1000s times the mail/profile any man gets. And married man/bad stereotype adapt and become highly skilled with their words and approaches.

Having said that I have known of a couple of women who met 100-300 per year x a few years. I asked many questions such as if that was me what would you think of me as a human being. I have spoken to women looking to date on mainstream sites and in the course of the week they tell me about their 3 different dates for that week. Again I ask many questions - if that was me what would you think of me as a person, would you think me single, if you were different date number 3-5 for the week how would you feel. nevertheless most common s tory I still hear is hie was married, his wife called turned up at my door....counter arguments can therefore be made that these women are only interested in talkers of nonsense who tell them everything they want to hear, need to hear - what a mess.


I usually meet within 1-3 weeks of initial contact, but the person has to be interesting via e-mail and phone first. I want to make sure we'll have stuff to talk about, and the beginning of a "click," as you and Lucylastic mentioned. :)

I've had two married guys not fess up to being married until we'd set up a date, but it hasn't been nearly as prevalent as you seem to indicate. I haven't had anyone who showed up not match their picture/description.

Crumpets brought up to me about the e-mail flood that he assumed I had to contend with, via the other side. I generally got 10-20 new people contacting me per week, between here and Fetlife. Some of them weren't interesting (just said hi/it was like pulling teeth in an interrogation scene to get 3 sentences out of them). Others lived too far away, or were in a poly relationship and upfront about it on their profile, or otherwise incompatible with me. Of those who were local and traded at least 5 messages, I met about 75% of them. In the 5 months I've been seeking (8 months since I refreshed my profile/logged back in, but I dated someone I met through this site for 3 of those months), I met about 25 men in person, and in two cases, more than one on the same day.

That doesn't mean that I viewed them as just a number. Last week, I had one date that lasted for 4 hours in the afternoon, initial quick meetup to grab coffee, then we walked along the greenbelt park (lots of people around, but beautiful views of the creek, and lots of benches), and lunch. The same night, I went for dinner and a concert with a different guy, which lasted about another 5 hours. It was fun, but exhausting! I was upfront with both of them about it. The logistics worked out that way because I'd been sick and couldn't meet either earlier in the week. I've had several more amazing dates with the guy I met that afternoon, and we've since played at the Citadel and decided to explore a romantic relationship and potentially a D/s dynamic. :) He doesn't hold it against me that I went on a date with someone else the same day we met.


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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/22/2016 2:07:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
I stopped meeting guys off this site in coffee shops, because after spending 30 minutes getting ready, 30 minutes driving there, and then waiting 20 minutes (10 before the meet time, 10 afterwards) all 4 of the ones I tried to meet there flaked and didn't shop up.
Then it's 30 minutes driving back home, and another 10 minutes to deal with the email they sent with some bullshit excuse as to why they flaked but want to continue talking online. ...

You want to meet me? I'll let you know when I'll be in the local kink club, and you're welcome to show up and come talk to me there.
And if you don't show? I'll be busy playing the rest of the night without missing you for a second...

I had the opposite experience. The only guy who's flaked on me was supposed to meet me at the Citadel at 9:30. He finally showed up past midnight, and was peeved that I wouldn't play with him (partly because I was annoyed that he was so late, partly due to my having a volunteer shift starting in a little over a half hour from then). I haven't had anyone flake on a coffee/dinner/other vanilla date so far.


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ORIGINAL: longwayhome
At least people can have the decency to say they don't want to or aren't ready to meet before an arrangement is made. I've never not met anyone after making an arrangement ever, but I know that's not the normal pattern on CS.

I've had to reschedule twice, once due to having to go out of town unexpectedly, the other time because I got sick, and didn't want to spend the whole time coughing and sneezing at him! Both men were understanding about it, and I did meet them subsequently. I had started to reschedule one other date, due to a doctor appointment conflict, but since I've started seeing someone, I decided not to meet him after all. I did call and let him know ahead of time, rather than just flake, though.




I'm not sure but, from other people's posts, I think that the flake ratio goes up significantly if people think that there is a chance of sex/play/kink.

As a consequence, I always make it clear that there is no chance of that at first meeting. Not that I wouldn't or think there's a problem with it, but simply because it puts too much pressure on a first meeting. Funnily enough, it's not what some people expect a bloke to say, despite years of supposed changing gender roles.

As for the OP, I just get the feeling that when you are fishing for something very specific, your chances of catching it are very slim, especially if you give people the impression that, if they are outside your narrow band of attraction, they are not worthy.

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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/22/2016 6:12:28 AM   
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Listen Dream..you can think whatever you want. You have obviously done that anyway. Do you know the conversations we had? How many people give up something for someone they love? Maybe, you have never had anyone think enough about you to be willing to sacrifice anything. Not my problem.


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ORIGINAL: mechski
@ Dream...has anyone ever thought enough about you, wanted to be with you so much, they gave up their dreams to be with you?

Something of significance, like 6 years of college with one to go, not giving up a job at, I'm lovin it.

Therein lies the difference between someone like you and someone like me.
I would never expect nor would I want a man to give up his dreams to be with me.
That isn't anything to brag about.

So when she would say, I gave up my dreams to be with you, you took kindly to that remark?
(I really would prefer that you didn't answer that - because you want to turn the spotlight onto you in every thread you post on, regardless of subject matter - but predictably, you will.)

The men I've been with have had their dreams fulfilled.
An altogether different experience. Perhaps one day you'll get to have a sublime taste of that.


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ORIGINAL: mechski
"social climber"? You should know better.

If the shoe fits, wear it.
You're not the first and you won't be the last person to live their life vicariously through another.
Nor the first or the last to try to raise yourself up to another's level by putting them down.


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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/22/2016 7:52:23 AM   
Missokyst


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I wouldnt meet any man for coffee without "clicking" in some way before hand.
If I was that desperate to meet a man I would set up a table at a coffee shop with a big sign on it that says "single? please talk to me to see if we click"
Its my life, my time, my prerogative, my reasons.
Why would I care about someones expectations if I dont "click" with them



That's funny!

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RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining - 2/22/2016 9:14:58 AM   
UllrsIshtar


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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
I stopped meeting guys off this site in coffee shops, because after spending 30 minutes getting ready, 30 minutes driving there, and then waiting 20 minutes (10 before the meet time, 10 afterwards) all 4 of the ones I tried to meet there flaked and didn't shop up.
Then it's 30 minutes driving back home, and another 10 minutes to deal with the email they sent with some bullshit excuse as to why they flaked but want to continue talking online. ...

You want to meet me? I'll let you know when I'll be in the local kink club, and you're welcome to show up and come talk to me there.
And if you don't show? I'll be busy playing the rest of the night without missing you for a second...

I had the opposite experience. The only guy who's flaked on me was supposed to meet me at the Citadel at 9:30. He finally showed up past midnight, and was peeved that I wouldn't play with him (partly because I was annoyed that he was so late, partly due to my having a volunteer shift starting in a little over a half hour from then). I haven't had anyone flake on a coffee/dinner/other vanilla date so far.



I've had people flake in club meetings too, but it doesn't bother me when that happens, because I was going to go anyways, and them not showing up doesn't really impact my night in terms of time lost.

I've got the highest flake ratio with male subs. Most of them don't show, regardless in what context I've tried to meet them (much, club, coffee shop, airport, etc).
With female subs, with most I don't get to the point of even scheduling a meeting, but the with the handful of them I have, only 1 has flaked.

With Dominant men I've got a 100% no-flake ratio, as well as with Dominant women, but the later doesn't really count, because I only meet them in the context of a friendship anyways.


< Message edited by UllrsIshtar -- 2/22/2016 9:17:46 AM >


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