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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/20/2016 5:25:50 PM

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Yet they attempted it 60 times....i guess they were just to busy planning those to actually write a bill. Or actually do something for the people who voted them into congress. Yanno living people not lobbyists n corps.
Everything they ran on was repealing obamacare oh n jobs.
Meanwhile people are still sick and dying from lack of affordable healthcare, gouging insurance premiums with ceos taking home 50 or 60 million a year. And Going bankrupt over medical bills.

Im truly happy for people who can get care, the increase in sick people should be no surprise to anyone let alone bean counters. It shows that it is needed across the board.
How tiny minded they are.

So your only comment is that the Repug actually did what you said they didn't do and you have no comment that you totally missed the point about poor, disabled and veterans?

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/20/2016 5:27:35 PM

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the poor, disabled, and veterans bills also voted down by the nutsuckers. If that wasn't your point, you really don't have one.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/20/2016 5:31:33 PM

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You seem to miss the point when it doesn't conform to your universe.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/20/2016 5:38:29 PM

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Oh, you guys always miss the point, because reality does not conform to your universe.

We should talk about what would happen if the french went to war with us over the louisiana purchase now, because they deposed the guy that sold it. Because thats what people deal in, not fact, not useful discourse, but fantasy, hallucination, and horseshit.

Yanno, free-markets, libertarianism, 'Murka, Ronald Reagan as something other than a dildo in a necktie, and so on and so forth.

The real shit, like----Guns, guts, god and glory is what made this country great, my bolshevik friend.

LOL, you're wilbur, ain't ya?

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/20/2016 5:42:54 PM

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Oh, you guys always miss the point, because reality does not conform to your universe.

We should talk about what would happen if the french went to war with us over the louisiana purchase now, because they deposed the guy that sold it. Because thats what people deal in, not fact, not useful discourse, but fantasy, hallucination, and horseshit.

Yanno, free-markets, libertarianism, 'Murka, Ronald Reagan as something other than a dildo in a necktie, and so on and so forth.

The real shit, like----Guns, guts, god and glory is what made this country great, my bolshevik friend.

LOL, you're wilbur, ain't ya?

Again, you miss the point. Yet, you also reveal your angst.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/20/2016 5:50:45 PM

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In pre-ACA California the people's republic of California mandated insurance have most of the things that has made rates rise in other states under ACA. Our rates haven't been affected much.

My rates have. Pre-ACA, our insurance was $377 a month for a good policy. Now, it's almost $1200 a month for the lowest plan - which sucks and has a $5000 per person deductible.

I understand. Pre-ACA in California, my company paid $1,100 per month per employee for health insurance. All Obamacare did was bring the rest of the country up to California costs. Which everyone with half a brain knew was going to happen even if Obama, Reid and Palosi were lying and saying otherwise.

I'm in California, self-employed.....my rates have almost tripled and that's for a plan that is far worse than the plan I had. I have a close friend that is in the same situation as me. So, the assumption that CA rates haven't really changed is incorrect.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/20/2016 5:58:37 PM

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Again, you miss the point that you have no point. You also reveal your ability to speak in 'alternative' thought, you know, the one you can't put your finger on, and dare not speak its name but it is some nefarious issue. Some 'larger issue, some larger point' well what the fuck is this magical thing?

Reality says, the insurance companies wrote the bill, everyone agrees with that. They are in their 'efficiency' of the private enterprise system failing. Yet the bonuses and profits soar. They bid and have control of what it costs, what it pays, and so on, and so many have said their insurance premiums have risen, but they are 'losing' money, while I stipulate that we do crooked books for the corporations under GAAP instead of the world standard ISO, they made their bed like the banks, if they are losing money, seize them and sell them the fuck out, national defense issue far as I am concerned, they are too fucking stupid to run companies that affect the nation. The nutsuckers have repealed obamacare 60 times, told us time and time again about its problems in surfactant slogans and jingos (and not all of them correct) and have told us they are about making america great again, but do nothing about corporations that will cowl themselves in our might and protection, and wrap themselves in 'Murika, but goddamn sure wont pay their taxes or hire americans, but by their catamites demand preferred treatment....(perhaps, because......they built it? they didnt) Then their catamites insure that they slobber up all the lobby money and dark money they can (as if their principles are shameful) shit on veterans, poor, women, and jobs, and tell us in flag wrapped prose how they will lead us to the promised land, and by god they are going to roll up their sleeves.

OK, whats the point? write it plain and simple, and very pregnant with fact.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/20/2016 7:07:28 PM

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In pre-ACA California the people's republic of California mandated insurance have most of the things that has made rates rise in other states under ACA. Our rates haven't been affected much.

My rates have. Pre-ACA, our insurance was $377 a month for a good policy. Now, it's almost $1200 a month for the lowest plan - which sucks and has a $5000 per person deductible.

I understand. Pre-ACA in California, my company paid $1,100 per month per employee for health insurance. All Obamacare did was bring the rest of the country up to California costs. Which everyone with half a brain knew was going to happen even if Obama, Reid and Palosi were lying and saying otherwise.

I'm in California, self-employed.....my rates have almost tripled and that's for a plan that is far worse than the plan I had. I have a close friend that is in the same situation as me. So, the assumption that CA rates haven't really changed is incorrect.

And this rags my ass, if we see the federal end of this, the north, and the west, AS OF OLD, end up stuck with subsidizing the red welfare states of the south, and kowtowing to the old New England states. It never changes, those of us who prosper must be somehow beholden to the these socialist free-market communist of society. But they do not cease there, they assume the next step is that we must make defense of this plan and all of rejoin in the defense of a hollow shell.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/20/2016 8:25:16 PM

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You seem to miss the point when it doesn't conform to your universe.

I didnt mention them because bills cutting benefits all over for the poor disabled, sick and vets and are easily findable.
Plus you edited your post, added bits to the post that i didnt see, so im only responding to your original comment.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/20/2016 8:27:17 PM

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LOL, you're wilbur, ain't ya?

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/21/2016 8:41:30 AM

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You seem to miss the point when it doesn't conform to your universe.

I didnt mention them because bills cutting benefits all over for the poor disabled, sick and vets and are easily findable.
Plus you edited your post, added bits to the post that i didnt see, so im only responding to your original comment.

Fine, cite the bills.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/21/2016 9:45:19 AM

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read....http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4902480

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/21/2016 10:11:35 AM

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read....http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4902480

What a surprise, the link confused Google.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/21/2016 10:13:31 AM

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It confused you, I got there fine.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/21/2016 10:16:00 AM

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It confused you, I got there fine.

No it confused Google, as my post said. You see this is a symptom of yours. Seeing and hearing only that which fits into your own world.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/21/2016 10:18:17 AM

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so you put it in google search thinking what was going to happen? you have the symptoms Wilbur, look in the mirror. Be a part of the real world.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/21/2016 10:25:10 AM

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http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4902480
if that doesnt work
try post 320 on the thread "Damn Welfare Queens!"

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/21/2016 10:26:33 AM

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read....http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4902480

What a surprise, the link confused Google.

you copied too much of the text. you probably had a . before the http...not google at all.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/21/2016 10:38:01 AM

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http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4902480
if that doesnt work
try post 320 on the thread "Damn Welfare Queens!"

Oh, I got there. It's where you interchangeably use don't for can't. You relegate yourself to a defunct cheerleader for the drivel spew here and escape into obscurity when asked to express or prove a point beyond feeling bitchy. I get it.

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RE: Lies your president told you about Obamacare - 4/21/2016 10:41:28 AM

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Wilbur, you are the one who skulks out when you are caught in your lies and foolishness. Then you send attack mails under all your different aliases.

You aint kidding nobody. There you are.

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