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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/21/2006 10:18:53 PM   
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My belief is that sex slavery can be pleasing in more than just a sexual way. That's the dynamic that makes it submissive for me...that it puts sex back under the authority of my male partner.




I so agree with this,I also prefer the slave to be more of a courtesan. I like the formality of performing the Japanese tea ceremony it is very erotic if done well. I enjoy a slavae who wants to shave and bathe me this can be very sensual. To me this is more important than just having sex with me. It is like a dance that we dance between Master and  slave.    

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/21/2006 10:28:36 PM   
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Hmmm, I think I have a new project for the summer. Start learning the Japanese Tea Ritual. It's been mentioned a few times now.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/21/2006 10:30:06 PM   
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Go get a copy of the mini tv series shogun.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/21/2006 10:33:45 PM   
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LOL That sounded like a direct order.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/21/2006 10:37:37 PM   
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yes mistress.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/21/2006 10:38:42 PM   
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Missturbation, for "punishment" I tie my sub or slave onto the bed spreadeagle and gag her.
I then tie one of those plug into the wall wand vibrators tightly to her pussy so that it isn't going anywhere.
I then turn it on and close the door and check on her in a half hour or so.

Julia, I agree. Mutual orgasm isn't that common. I do enjoy "69" once in a while though!

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/21/2006 10:41:08 PM   
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The 69 thing is too silly for me to do. I always worry that her laughing is going to inflate my bladder when I start humming ''swanny river" into her cootchie.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/21/2006 10:48:36 PM   
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yes mistress.


 

I don't think I've ever been called that before!

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/21/2006 11:02:01 PM   
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                                                    while (horse == dead) beat();

Cracked up over that.  Can i use it with a certain Master i know...?

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I'd love to have a woman who was an openly sexual creature, it's just hard to tell the real ones from the time-bombs.



Naw, really, when You find it,  you will just...  know. 

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I know, for myself, I really struggle with accepting sensations while trying to give my partner pleasure. I hate the distraction, and would rather they leave me alone to fully concentrate on them.


Yes!   i think we have to be past a certain age maybe to admit things like this.. 69 is just distracting!  

As far as the topic,  there is something in submissive or slaves that cannot be duplicated by a wholly nilla woman.  There is a different quality to the ways we enjoy sex, the way we feed our families, even the way we watch tv.    Hubby discovered that during His  brief foray into the "wilds of single-dom".  back when He thought this D/s stuff was a bunch of chest-beaters and doormats, so he went off to find a suitably nilla partner to have a "regular life". with.

He assumed all women were like me,  and this other was just cuter.. He admits to how dissapointed he was to find out she wasn't "just holding part of herself back" until he left me as He'd assumed..  Once she "got him" she still had sex like a nilla.. tentativly and measured, and her sexuality was never going to be what i always called "the fire-gift"  ..that consuming passion of a loving surrender.   Duh? 

The good end to that story is He got the clue, came back, and slowly started recognising the D/s dynamic that was always there perculating quietly.  but i'll put my vote in that sexual slavery and the braggardly-sounding "pleasure-slave"  are nice terms, but honestly,  it's a whole package of surrender and pleasing and feeding off each others pleasure.

IMHO.  YMMV. Look both ways, and hold hands when crossing the street.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/21/2006 11:20:48 PM   
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As far as the topic,  there is something in submissive or slaves that cannot be duplicated by a wholly nilla woman.  There is a different quality to the ways we enjoy sex, the way we feed our families, even the way we watch TV.    



I have to agree. I've never quite understood the average woman, and I really thought it was just me who was odd, different, warped, because I just felt icked out by the way regular women talked about their mates, and treated them. It seemed so prevalent, so it had to be the right way, right?

Uhhh, not for me...

Now I can look at them and say To Each Their Own. Their way is not my way and my way is not theirs. Vive le Difference.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/22/2006 6:30:41 AM   
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So far, I feel I've had to practically cajole, and convince, every dominant I've played with that he can push me farther than a hard spanking, and a hand in the hair during a blow job. It seems they are all so damn frightened I'm going to turn on and them call them an abusive a$$hole. /rant


That is why trust is so important in the lifestyle--since the dynamic is in some ways a custodial one of sheltering and protecting from harm, a Dom has to truly trust a sub when she says she wants to be used well--trust that she wants the experience, and not just the fantasy.  I think it takes some time of getting used to one another before One can truly let go. Many Doms are from an old-school style of door-opening chivalry; there can be some cognitive dissonance involved in later fucking a whore so well she feels sufficiently wrecked and broken.

Another thought about trust--submissives often talk about trust, and how powerful it is, and how it part of the draw to let oneself go etc....but have you considered this:

For all the contracts and ceremonies--powerful and impactful though they be--that let a submissive "cede her power and will" she will always have some element of power in this--if she changes her mind, and dials the phone, there is absolutely no way a man in the same house as a bruised and/or bloody woman is not going to go to jail, no matter how many emails are produced where it was indicated that the biting of the shoulder was an "8" on the curiosity scale.

That being said, neck-biting, back-scratching, hair-pulling, animal sex so rough and primal and callous you don't even fucking care how shatteringly, devestatingly hard the bitch may or may not be coming is one of life's great joys....

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/22/2006 7:25:30 AM   
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  As a Master, I feel that any thought or idea from the Master should be the general rule for the slave.  It is My desire that a female slave dresses in a way that is attractive to Me to enhance her feelings of being attractive and desirable.  The restraining of her increases her passion and the pleasure that follows continues throughout the night.

Now there are some female slaves that feel that this is an odd manner for a Master to feel.  My response to that statement is that there is not any two Doms or Masters that have the same thoughts for Their slaves.

We are all different.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/22/2006 9:22:24 AM   
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KnightofMist, So very well said. If I want to get laid I can, but to find a slave that fills the whole package that is the freedom that I as a Dom look for.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/22/2006 9:44:15 AM   
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Popeye im curious now as to what your special type of punishment is?

Edited to say oops i just saw ur post - i must have missed it lol 

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/22/2006 10:43:50 AM   
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Miss, after the second or third orgasm it can get pretty "intense" when you can't get away from it.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/22/2006 11:31:04 AM   
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For all the contracts and ceremonies--powerful and impactful though they be--that let a submissive "cede her power and will" she will always have some element of power in this--if she changes her mind, and dials the phone, there is absolutely no way a man in the same house as a bruised and/or bloody woman is not going to go to jail, no matter how many emails are produced where it was indicated that the biting of the shoulder was an "8" on the curiosity scale.


Yes, I know this must be hard.

Between the dissonance of being a truly nice guy, who gets off on slapping a woman's face, or calling her a slut, and knowing it can land you in major hot water if you judge wrong, damn it's a huge step.

The dissonance is on both sides, too. I have a huge amount of pride, and self-preservation, and it took some heavy thinking to decide that it was actually okay that I didn't feel abused when my partner handled me roughly and called me a slut.

It's all in context, and you need a good handle on your own motivations and impulses to make it all work.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/22/2006 11:34:13 AM   
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That being said, neck-biting, back-scratching, hair-pulling, animal sex so rough and primal and callous you don't even fucking care how shatteringly, devestatingly hard the bitch may or may not be coming is one of life's great joys....



And...yummmm....

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/22/2006 11:39:49 AM   
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Now there are some female slaves that feel that this is an odd manner for a Master to feel.  My response to that statement is that there is not any two Doms or Masters that have the same thoughts for Their slaves.


I'm curious why you think anyone in BDSM would feel that that was an "odd manner for a master to feel"? It sounds pretty standard.

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/22/2006 1:45:44 PM   
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Uh huh.........let's see what happened if men stopped wanting sex for a week. Females would never be the same again.

As long as they make batteries and/or strap on's we won't have to worry.

~Lashra


There is always cucumbers and carrots  *w*

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RE: Female Sex Slavery - 7/22/2006 8:51:21 PM   
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                                                   while (horse == dead) beat();

Cracked up over that.  Can i use it with a certain Master i know...?



Feel free, I got that joke out of a C++ programming book.. I assume that you and/or this master are programmers to understand it.

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I'd love to have a woman who was an openly sexual creature, it's just hard to tell the real ones from the time-bombs.



Naw, really, when You find it,  you will just...  know. 



I certanly hope so.

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