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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Wow!!!
I don't understand what's going on! How can a man who announced his VP a few days ago, drop out so soon?
What's going on behind the scenes!!

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You also said their was a hydrogen highway???
You also said that melting the artic ice cap would have no effect on glaciers???
You also said that solar pannels cost more than the energy they produce???
You also said solar pannels are only 5% effective???
You are more full of shit than a christmas goose.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Announcing a VP candidate was intended to secure 1-2 points more votes via women, and also to get another surrogate giving stump speeches. It bought him 2-3 days of no cost political coverage.

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There is simply no way The Mop is going to win the general election. How can someone like Trump win the independents and swinging voters?

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I think the Republican party is gelling very very quickly behind trump. Ya'll thought there was no way he was really running. No way he could win to be the candidate - no way to win the election.

You're wrong. At some point very soon the republican establishment is going to realize they are stuck with trump. They can win or lose with him - or they can cause a disaster and split from him. My bet is on the former.

My suspicion is that every liberal is secretly delighted with Trump claiming the GOP nomination. How could liberals not be delighted as they witness the GOP commit political suicide?


There is simply no way The Mop is going to win the general election.

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How can someone like Trump win the independents and swinging voters? The Mop has sold his soul to the far Right in an squalid unprincipled grab for the GOP nomination, alienating massive blocks of voters on the way.

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For him to have any appeal to middle voters, The Mop has to renege on all his promises he made to prostitute himself to the far and evangelical Right.

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alienating massive blocks of voters who like their candidates to have integrity

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How can people like Cruz ask or recommend people to vote for someone he called a "pathological liar" (and worse) only a week ago?

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How can any genuine conservative vote for a race baiting woman hating demagogue billionaire like Trump? The Mop is the antithesis of genuine conservatism.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

LOL - because no matter how life looks to you from the far far far nose bleacher left, here in the states, hillary is well known. She is corrupt. She is riding on the coat of her husband. Conservatives will vote for Trump because the alternative is hillary.

Remember that 'vast right wing conspiracy <snicker>

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

i so dislike Hillary, but im not sure i like trump much better.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

well I wasnt expecting that.
I guess the fix is in

I said within two weeks of trump declaring that he would win.
Please cite this as trump declared last june. even a clock gets stuck looking to be right three times a day

And while you democrats are salivating at the prospect of running against him - and he is down by 19 points in the polls and 4-1 in vegas - those numbers are wrong too.

Salivating? LOL No.
Apart from the fact Im not a democrat...


Y'all have consistently underestimated him. You do not understand how angry people are. Democrats are salivating at the prospect of picking up 15-20 seats in the house, and regaining the senate.
Oh I get how angry people are, but of course only you, in your infinite wisdom believe that is so. Or that all angry people will vote for trumpf.
that is to say, your infinite wisdom is neither.

Too early to tell. But I don't think so. I think the Republican party is gelling very very quickly behind trump. Ya'll thought there was no way he was really running. No way he could win to be the candidate - no way to win the election.
Over on fox news commenting, lol they arent gelling very well at all.. there is a pretense of it, but hey the party of no, the teaparty and the GOP have been destroying each other since 2008. I do expect them to begin butt licking, but that isnt gelling. This is the perfect outcome.

You're wrong. At some point very soon the republican establishment is going to realize they are stuck with trump. They can win or lose with him - or they can cause a disaster and split from him. My bet is on the former.
You and gambling...its a shame.

As I said here more than a couple of weeks ago - I expect no drama at the republican convention - and more drama at the democrat convention. Sanders won Indiana - I expect him to win West Virginia handily. And if he's smart - there will be a photo op moment - a point - much like today - where clinton is apologizing for braggin she was going to put coal miners out of work - a point that will invite democrats to wonder - what the hell are we doing.

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I wasn't sure until just recently (When the State Department suspended their in-house investigation, mentioning the FBI investigation), but I am almost positive that Hillary will (at the very least) be indicted. I doubt she'll be much of a factor in the general election.

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I think the Republican party is gelling very very quickly behind trump. Ya'll thought there was no way he was really running. No way he could win to be the candidate - no way to win the election.

You're wrong. At some point very soon the republican establishment is going to realize they are stuck with trump. They can win or lose with him - or they can cause a disaster and split from him. My bet is on the former.

My suspicion is that every liberal is secretly delighted with Trump claiming the GOP nomination. How could liberals not be delighted as they witness the GOP commit political suicide?
There is simply no way The Mop is going to win the general election.

Except of course by getting more votes, eh?

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i don't know if it quite call it a "fear" but trump is so polarizing and so dislikable, i suspect a lot of people who would have voted for another candidate, will not turn out for him.
i so dislike Hillary, but im not sure i like trump much better.

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Finally re: your predictions generally. I remember your repeated claims that Romney would romp it in over Obama in the last election.

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If i were a hard core right wing conservative I would pray that Clinton is NOT indicted. Because if she is Bernie will have a good chance of being our next President.

Butch

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But Trump is not a predictable boring fellow like Mittens. His a wild card.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
I agree, my issue isn't with a woman, but Hillary is evil.
If it is about "being ready" for a woman president it would be allowing the fact that she id a woman override the fact that she isthe worst candidate either party hasever offered.

The 2008 election was more about electing a black man than about which candidate was better qualified for the office. Hillary was more qualified than Obama. McCain (as bad a candidate as he was) was more qualified. Sarah fucking Palin was more qualified. In 2008, the least qualified Democratic candidate won their nomination. It wasn't about who was more qualified.

In 2012, Obama was more qualified than he was in 2008, and more qualified for the office of the President than Mitt Romney, but 4 years experience being in that position is tough to beat.

Hillary is more qualified than Bernie. Hillary is more qualified than Trump. I think she's more qualified than any other candidate that's run in the GOP or Democratic races. Trump is one of the least, if not the least.

This election, if Hillary isn't indicted beforehand, will be about electing a woman to the office of President.

Get your tin foil hats out.....

What if Hillary and Obama know that she's going to be indicted, and likely found guilty? What if she becomes the nominee selects Obama as VP (Barack or Michelle)? She'll likely be elected, but the indictment and trial will cause her to resign. That leaves Obama as President ("No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.") for a third term, or a black woman as President.

Democrats: first black President; first woman President, and, perhaps, first black woman President.

Okay, you can now safely remove your tin foil hats.

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I think the Republican party is gelling very very quickly behind trump. Ya'll thought there was no way he was really running. No way he could win to be the candidate - no way to win the election.

You're wrong. At some point very soon the republican establishment is going to realize they are stuck with trump. They can win or lose with him - or they can cause a disaster and split from him. My bet is on the former.

My suspicion is that every liberal is secretly delighted with Trump claiming the GOP nomination. How could liberals not be delighted as they witness the GOP commit political suicide?

There is simply no way The Mop is going to win the general election. How can someone like Trump win the independents and swinging voters? The Mop has sold his soul to the far Right in an squalid unprincipled grab for the GOP nomination, alienating massive blocks of voters on the way. For him to have any appeal to middle voters, The Mop has to renege on all his promises he made to prostitute himself to the far and evangelical Right.

Who knows what further outrages The Mop will deliver as he tries desperately to make up ground on Hilary or Saunders, further alienating massive blocks of voters who like their candidates to have integrity and look and sound Presidential, not come across like a street corner bigot on a soap box? So The Mop is either a tool of the Far Right or an insincere, lying demagogue (or both).

How can people like Cruz ask or recommend people to vote for someone he called a "pathological liar" (and worse) only a week ago? How can any genuine conservative vote for a race baiting woman hating demagogue billionaire like Trump? The Mop is the antithesis of genuine conservatism.

Personally I am enjoying watching the GOP self-destruct so spectacularly. I wish things like this could happen more often. The USA and its citizens will be the real winners in this election.

(Politically,) The Mop is dead. Long live The Mop!

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UPDATE (10/1/2007): On the Late Show with David Letterman, Bill Clinton discussed this scenario in regards to his running as VP for his wife.
Letterman: Now there was a discussion last week, and there is I guess a greater discussion, and there's some confusion, and maybe I'm the only one confused about the eligibility of a man who has been elected twice as President to possibly be named later on the ticket as Vice President. Constitutionally speaking, can that happen?"
Clinton: I don't believe so. There are some people who believe it can, and they have contorted readings of the amendment, the 22nd Amendment. But I believe as a matter of general interpretation, you're supposed to read all the Constitution including all the Amendments as if they were written almost on the same day at the same moment, so they're consistent with one another. And the Constitution says the qualifications for Vice President are the same as those for President. Now you can read that to mean 'to serve,' not 'to run for.' But I just don't believe it's consistent with the spirit of the Constitution for someone who's been President twice to be elected Vice President. I just don't think it's Constitutional. I don't think it's right and I wouldn't want to do that. I'd want to do whatever I could do to be of highest and best use for her, but there are lots of wonderful people out there, including all the people that are running this time would be good Vice Presidents. And, that's just not in the cards.