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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 4:18:53 PM   
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no, I don't think he will make a competent president. I see him as being particularly ill-suited for the position.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 4:40:19 PM   
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GWB is absolute proof that anybody but anybody...could be president. All this country can do, is go up from there.

It was such a narrow win too. And Gore won popular vote. That really, luck was shining on GWB.




That's the genius of our founding fathers. Each state has a part in the electoral college and two or three very populated states can't hijack an election from the whole country.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 5:09:43 PM   
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Just curious... forget the better of two evils... do you think Trump would make a competent President? Would you really trust your children's future to his style of leadership?

He has children too, and grand children that needs a striving country for him to continue his Trump Empire, he can't have America crumbling. Seeing how well brought up his kids are, I don't see why wouldn't we trust Trump with the children's future.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 5:27:43 PM   
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Announcing a VP candidate was intended to secure 1-2 points more votes via women, and also to get another surrogate giving stump speeches. It bought him 2-3 days of no cost political coverage.

Frankly, it was not smart to think that getting a female VP would get any female votes.
Women don't vote female for the sake of voting female.
Men think women would because more men vote for male, because his male.


You aren't hep to what goes on in the US, Greta.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us/politics/gloria-steinem-madeleine-albright-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders.html
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    “We can tell our story of how we climbed the ladder, and a lot of you younger women think it’s done,” Ms. Albright said of the broader fight for women’s equality. “It’s not done. There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!”


That right there demonstrates that Madeline Albright thinks women should vote for Hillary because Hillary is a woman.

Forget that voting for or against someone simply because of gender is sexist. That doesn't matter to many feminists, as long as you're voting female.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 5:34:21 PM   
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You aren't hep to what goes on in the US, Greta.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us/politics/gloria-steinem-madeleine-albright-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders.html

The fact that Hillary has to resort to these women using women card to help Hillary get votes tells me, women don't vote for women for being a women. Speech of desperation. And also telling women they will go to hell for not voting Hillary is not gonna win Hillary votes.
Hillary actually needs to denounce this woman like Trump needs to denounce KKK ha.
Nobody gave Hilllary shit for being silent on this woman saying women are going to hell for not voting for her. That says alot about Hillary.

One of the reason I can't stand Hillary is right after her stupid reply that the difference between her and the other two candidates is that she's a woman. For a question of what will make her different or better President than the other two.

She lost all respect from me by saying that! Worst pathetic answer ever. I think it's embarrassing for female empowerment for any female to feel the need to use the woman card to be President. That's more like affirmative action. Not by merit.



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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 5:44:01 PM   
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I agree, my issue isn't with a woman, but Hillary is evil.
If it is about "being ready" for a woman president it would be allowing the fact that she id a woman override the fact that she isthe worst candidate either party hasever offered.

The 2008 election was more about electing a black man than about which candidate was better qualified for the office. Hillary was more qualified than Obama. McCain (as bad a candidate as he was) was more qualified. Sarah fucking Palin was more qualified. In 2008, the least qualified Democratic candidate won their nomination. It wasn't about who was more qualified.
In 2012, Obama was more qualified than he was in 2008, and more qualified for the office of the President than Mitt Romney, but 4 years experience being in that position is tough to beat.
Hillary is more qualified than Bernie. Hillary is more qualified than Trump. I think she's more qualified than any other candidate that's run in the GOP or Democratic races. Trump is one of the least, if not the least.
This election, if Hillary isn't indicted beforehand, will be about electing a woman to the office of President.
Get your tin foil hats out.....
What if Hillary and Obama know that she's going to be indicted, and likely found guilty? What if she becomes the nominee selects Obama as VP (Barack or Michelle)? She'll likely be elected, but the indictment and trial will cause her to resign. That leaves Obama as President ("No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.") for a third term, or a black woman as President.
Democrats: first black President; first woman President, and, perhaps, first black woman President.
Okay, you can now safely remove your tin foil hats.

12th amendment. " But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States"


Is he ineligible to the office of President? He's ineligible to be elected President, for sure, but, beyond that?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/president.asp



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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 5:48:29 PM   
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Just curious... forget the better of two evils... do you think Trump would make a competent President? Would you really trust your children's future to his style of leadership?
I don't care what you think of Clinton or anyone else and I'm not asking if she is worse then Trump... I am only asking about Trump?
Butch


I don't think Trump has Presidential mettle. It almost scares me to think he could be President. Maybe he'll be the first President that can't get anything through Congress because even his own party won't support him?


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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 5:58:39 PM   
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You aren't hep to what goes on in the US, Greta.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us/politics/gloria-steinem-madeleine-albright-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders.html

The fact that Hillary has to resort to these women using women card to help Hillary get votes tells me, women don't vote for women for being a women. Speech of desperation. And also telling women they will go to hell for not voting Hillary is not gonna win Hillary votes.


Hillary wasn't resorting to that tack. She was in front of a crowd of feminists. Why do you think they were there? Albright was commenting on women voting for Sanders instead of Hillary. Watch the video. I actually think Hillary was surprised at the comment.

Women were expected to support Hillary because she is a woman. Younger women are flocking towards Sanders (of course the given explanation was they were only doing that to meet boys), which is why Albright said the comment about "a special place in Hell."

It demonstrates that some women will vote for a woman simply based on gender.

As far as Cruz thinking Fiorina could get him a couple more % based on her being female? I think it was a bad move on his part, and a bad move on her part to accept. That was part of the reason Palin was chosen to run with McCain, too. It's extremely pathetic, imo.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 6:38:01 PM   
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That's the genius of our founding fathers. Each state has a part in the electoral college and two or three very populated states can't hijack an election from the whole country.


Let me guess???you used your history book for shit paper.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 6:40:20 PM   
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That right there demonstrates that Madeline Albright thinks women should vote for Hillary because Hillary is a woman.

Perhaps if you got a grown up to read it and help you with the big words you would not seem such a fool.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 6:55:58 PM   
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You also said their was a hydrogen highway???
You also said that melting the artic ice cap would have no effect on glaciers???
You also said that solar pannels cost more than the energy they produce???
You also said solar pannels are only 5% effective???
You are more full of shit than a christmas goose.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



LOL. Sure I did. Cite me.

Notice the question marks dumbass?
Since you have just admitted that you did why should I post a cite to validate what you have just admitted to?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 7:08:14 PM   
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Just curious... forget the better of two evils... do you think Trump would make a competent President? Would you really trust your children's future to his style of leadership?

I don't care what you think of Clinton or anyone else and I'm not asking if she is worse then Trump... I am only asking about Trump?

Butch



I would have been happy with almost any of the republicans. Trump was my first pick, from when he announced. Kasich my second. Trump has actually accomplished things in life - he knows what businessmen need to actually - make money. Our economy is fraudulent, propped up only by hordes of deficit spending.

Additionally - of all the things a President needs at the moment - none more than the ability to negotiate - both foreign trade policies, and with members of congress. And he has the balls to tell people to shove this political corrctness. Bravo.

He is a bit lazy. But someone told him to get his shit together - now the question will be - did that stick - or will he coast a bit. I think he senses the opportunity for ground breaking - and I think it has excited him. I think - more than any other candidate - trump has a better read of the electorate. And yes, I include bernie in that. Bernie hears what his white ultra liberal voters - but I think its more of a bubble.

It can still go either way. But the selection of trump has not killed the chance of a republican wave.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 7:08:36 PM   
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I know conservatives are distrustful and don't like Trump because, end of the day, is he really a conservative? That to me is a plus point of Trump. His somewhere in the middle. But a bad point for conservatives as they would want a President that represents conservative values.
It's like someone who has been a liberal democrat all his life just decided to last minute switch party and run as a conservative.
But as an outsider who don't identify with either party, I am more focus on which individual I think is the best. I was with Al Gore against Bush. I was with Hillary against Obama. But after Obama won, I switch to McCain. If it was Hillary versus McCain, I would be on Hillary camp. The last election was like *yawn* Mittens, I had to be for Obama. Better of the worst.

End of the day, if Hillary lost to Obama, doesn't that make Hillary second choice democrat for her to voted in now?


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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 8:08:18 PM   
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You also said their was a hydrogen highway???
You also said that melting the artic ice cap would have no effect on glaciers???
You also said that solar pannels cost more than the energy they produce???
You also said solar pannels are only 5% effective???
You are more full of shit than a christmas goose.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



LOL. Sure I did. Cite me.

Notice the question marks dumbass?
Since you have just admitted that you did why should I post a cite to validate what you have just admitted to?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



Apparently you don't understand rudimentary english. LOL - laughing out loud. In this case, at you. "Sure I did." Sarcasm. Cite me - as in find posts of mine where I said that.

Now that I've explained to you the plain English - cite me.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 8:09:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Phydeaux for answering... Of course I believe you are wrong in every point you made...but arguing is useless. What I want to point out to you is how your fellow conservatives answered this question. If some hard core, not in a derogatory way, conservatives here on the boards are saying they have no faith in his ability to lead this country... how do you expect him to have any chance at all in the general election?

His nomination is a lost opportunity and a disaster for the Republican party. I believe a traditional Reagan Republican would have had a good chance of beating Clinton... He doesn't have a snow balls chance in hell of being President... In my opinion of course.

Butch

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 8:15:34 PM   
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I don't think Trump has Presidential mettle. It almost scares me to think he could be President. Maybe he'll be the first President that can't get anything through Congress because even his own party won't support him?


There hasn't been a president since Ronald Reagan that had presidential mettle, but they have all been professional politicians. At this point we need people who have not been so tainted by politics. I put my money on Trump.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/4/2016 10:02:15 PM   
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Our economy is fraudulent, propped up only by hordes of deficit spending.

Something his policies would increase exponentially.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/5/2016 1:50:58 AM   
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There hasn't been a president since Ronald Reagan that had presidential mettle, but they have all been professional politicians. At this point we need people who have not been so tainted by politics. I put my money on Trump.


Don't you think it's important for a candidate to have political knowledge and experience though? How many congress members do you think Trump has dealt with in his lifetime? How many times has had to make a decision, directly (Say as a president) or indirectly (as a member of congress), where millions of lives were at risk based on his opinion/vote? Has he ever had to read a letter from a voter telling him that a decision he made cost a family their livelihood?

I can understand the frustration with career politicians, but giving a teenager the keys to a Ferrari for their first car is just asking for trouble. The fact of the matter is President Obama has had bouts of presidential mettle. He's tried to use his executive rights to veto and have things go HIS way, but what happens is the Republicans make a fuss of things. They filibuster congress. They stall raising our debt ceiling as leveraging power over Obama. They do whatever they can to combat his policies. And the same is true for the Democratic members of congress combating the Republicans.

The issue(s) we have are with congress. Trump's chest thumping will accomplish zilch with a congress who refuses to compromise, and his lack of experience will only make it worse.


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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/5/2016 2:10:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's why Trump already said, his VP must be someone with political experience and can get along with the congress.

The man is a leader, he knows how to hire the right people for the right jobs to give him the right advice.

I wouldn't worry about his lack of political experience, as I think he'll be a fast learner. His already learning how to maneuver around politics for his current leading position.

Trump ain't gonna be chest thumping through congress. If you think he chest thump his way through his own business, you must be crazy. Everything is about negotiating a middle ground, gotta give and take.

I just don't understand why people seriously believe his this idiot who doesn't know what his doing. Just because his not diplomatic? Everybody is too used to slick slimey politicians with honeyed tongue.

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RE: Cruz drops out? - 5/5/2016 2:35:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		You mean apart from the fact that he is a racist zenophobic, misogynist narcissist?
Well theres also liar, boor, psycho demagogue.
Th Its a sham, smoke and mirrors,ere is no magic, its fake, like the tan, like the hair.

He certainly isnt a unifier, he has the least favourable rating of any presidential candidate ever...

But given the law of averages.
He could be a perfect president for the whole world to fall for.

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