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Gee Greta it's time for you to take your pill isn't it? You are starting to sound as angry as A'ness and that is so not a good look.

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OMFG!!! I can't believe you are crying ABOUT THIS SHIT, while your fellow Muslim women are being stoned to death for RAPE! You fucking hypocrite again! WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Do you realise NONE OF THIS SHIT IS LEGAL IN THE US? But it IS LEGAL IN the countries which YOUR RELIGION runs. Crying up the wrong roof??

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THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!! How dare you even say this??? What freedom do you VALUE by supporting a Religion that persecutes Women in Islamic countries while Hiding in a NON-Islamic country and still happily flying your Islamic flag and crying that you can't wear the Hijab and get love and acceptance from everybody??? OMG! Fuck you! Why DO YOU DESERVE IT? FOR wearing that SYMBOL of HATE towards women?????? You want Jews to Love people who wear Swastika??? Your dressing is OFFENSIVE!

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Too bad the Muslim women in Muslim countries who are suffering real persecution will probably never get access to the internet to actually READ THIS insulting article.

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Everything about that OP reeks of at least three fundamental misconceptions that it doesn't seem possible to dislodge even with dynamite. (God knows many have tried here, often enough, when it's reared its ugly head.) One is that Islam is the same everywhere;

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the second is that the 'one true Islam' is that which exists in the most extreme and oppressive areas of the world;

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the third is that every Muslim is part of one homogenous group, all of whom are connected with one another, therefore all of whom should be responsible for what every one of the others thinks or does, right across the entire world.

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It's all such rigid, blinkered, simplistic thinking.

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Gee Greta it's time for you to take your pill isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
the third is that every Muslim is part of one homogenous group, all of whom are connected with one another, therefore all of whom should be responsible for what every one of the others thinks or does, right across the entire world.

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She didn't say that either.
That would be your slant on the topic rather than hers.

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How about STORIES of Muslim women being ATTACKED for refusing the wear the Hijab in countries where her Religion is practiced?

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This opinion piece from this Muslim American woman fills me with rage. Because the Muslim Hypocrisy is unbelievable!

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/15/opinions/hijab-post-trump-america-opinion-trnd/index.html?iid=ob_lockedrail_bottomlist

Over the presidential campaign and in the heated days after the election, I've seen report after report of racist incidents and hate crimes. It seems as though the fear-mongering rhetoric used throughout the campaign may have given a free ticket to those ready to act with hate.

Some of the stories have touched me on an even more personal level, like seeing stories of Muslim women being insulted or attacked for wearing headscarves. That some women must fear for their safety in America because of a personal choice they make when getting dressed absolutely baffles me. They are being forced to conform.

THIS is unbelievable! How about STORIES of Muslim women being ATTACKED for refusing the wear the Hijab in countries where her Religion is practiced? Where is her rage for those women? She is happily coming into a country doning her symbol of oppression and then crying about people not liking her wearing like the biggest insult to female freedom, and while supporting the very religion, which IS the LEADER in FORCING WOMEN to CONFORM!!! Most hypocritical statement ever!!!


How can some people be so hateful to attack others with such confidence and not consider the consequences?
This issue rocks me to my core for two reasons:
The first? Nearly a year ago I wrote a commentary in these pages about removing my hijab to find myself. I decided to wear it only part time, and then, after experimenting with it, chose to keep it on full time. What is hijab? A scarf -- a simple piece of material in many sizes, shapes and colors wrapped over a Muslim woman's head. While for most people the reason to cover may be religious, mine is primarily social.
I choose to wear a hijab as a symbolic expression of diversity in society. I exercise my freedom without fear or influence.

WHAT????? You CHOOSE to wear a Hijab for a symbol of DIVERSITY??? WHERE IS THE DIVERSITY in Muslim countries???????????? Hijab is a SYMBOL OF FORCING WOMEN TO CONFORM OVER THERE!!!! Especially the ones who only allows the same old boring black HIJAB for EVERY WOMAN! WTF are you talking about woman?? You SUPPORT THIS RELIGION WHO DOES THIS!

Really: what's the big deal? It's literally just another piece of clothing. But for various reasons, some people try to define it in black or white terms. The reality is that it stands for many things related to fashion, religion, politics and society. It's personal and intimate. It is a woman's choice: what to wear or not wear, an exercise of her preference. In America, I am free to wear it as I please.
And thank you for acknowledging that IN AMERICA, you are FREE to wear what you please! YES, because you know why? Anybody who accost you for wearing a Hijab is gonna get prosecuted, it's a crime, they will BE PUNISHED! Because you are ENTITLED TO YOUR FREEDOM. Now instead of spending your energy whining about this shit which there is no issue at all, as it's not against the law the wear the Hijab, why aren't you whining about your RELIGION REFUSING TO ALLOW WOMEN TO WEAR WHAT THEY WANT??? Because it IS AGAINST ISLAM not to wear the Hijab!

But the freedom feels threatened in a Trump America. Keeping a hijab on may potentially cost me my safety and endanger my young daughters. I find myself worried about every trip I take outdoors with them. Thoughts of being attacked or putting my girls in harm's way fill my head. I wonder: Is it just safer to take it off again so I don't "look" Muslim? My faith whispers to keep it on in defiance of fear — and in my conviction that diversity is a right and a strength in this country.

GOOD! Now you know how Muslim women in Muslim countries feel. They can't even be part of a beauty contest since that INVOLVES wearing other things OTHER than the Hijab, without their lives being threatened and getting death threats from Muslim people, Thanks to YOUR religion! WHICH YOU HYPOCRITICALLY SUPPORT BITCH! Now you KNOW how THEY FEEL, thanks to YOUR Religion which YOU STILL Insist on supporting! And the best part of it is. IF they get fucking killed for being in a beauty contest. Nobody gets prosecuted. IF you get killed for being in a Hijab, America will CONVICT YOUR killer! Stop flying the STUPID FLAG OF YOUR RELIGION! And crying about this hypocritical bullshit!

And the second reason for my alarm?
My older daughter voluntarily shares with just about anyone that she is of Turkish, Egyptian, Pakistani and Indian descent, adding that her ultimate pride is in being American and Muslim. Since her toddler years, she has seen her cultural background as one of the most exciting aspects of her life.
What is interesting about this is, IF I know someone who is of ALL those background, the first thought in my head is, she is gonna be BEAUTIFUL. The last thing that pops in my head is that She's a Muslim! It wouldn't even occur to me. STOP FEAR MONGERING!

I teach both my girls to embrace diversity and cherish it in others. They have traveled to many countries and are aware of the complex world around them. I have raised them to honor everyone for their unique differences.
Now, it seems everything I've taught my daughters about diversity as empowerment has been challenged.
I am having to explain the intolerance and hate that surfaced in our nation during the presidential campaign, and seems to be erupting anew since the election. My girls have questions about the spiteful rhetoric they overhear, despite my efforts to protect them from it. They even asked me if news of a Muslim ban was true and if our family will have a place to live.

Suddenly, I find myself needing to prepare them for another life lesson: Honoring diversity in others does not guarantee the same in return.
But there is more: Openly threatening a woman if she does not remove an article of clothing and further taking action by touching that woman is a violation — an assault. And as Americans who stand for the rights and freedoms of all, we cannot condone assault, regardless of which side of the political spectrum we may lean.

OMFG!!! I can't believe you are crying ABOUT THIS SHIT, while your fellow Muslim women are being stoned to death for RAPE! You fucking hypocrite again! WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Do you realise NONE OF THIS SHIT IS LEGAL IN THE US? But it IS LEGAL IN the countries which YOUR RELIGION runs. Crying up the wrong roof??


No one should contemplate hiding their way into safety by changing the way they look or dress. And it is not only Muslims in headscarves: Other minorities find themselves looking for ways to fit in while maintaining their identities and staying safe. At least I can remove a scarf from my head; others cannot change their skin color or features to hide their way into safety.

America, we are bigger and better than the few among us who choose to act out of fear rather than love. The America I know is not limited to certain beliefs, it is inclusive of our uniqueness. It has space for all of us.
We cannot allow hateful speech or differences to divide us. We cannot allow divisiveness to drive us into a fall. We must stand up for ourselves and for our fellow Americans. We must remain united.
This is not a matter of religious choice, it's the duty of each of us to ensure and protect the same rights for others that we want granted to ourselves.
And this brings me to our President-elect, Donald Trump, for whom I have a message:


The people have elected you to become the next President of the greatest nation in the world.
We have heard you speak numerous times throughout the campaign about your plans to protect our citizens from the dangers in the world. Thank you for having the passionate desire to keep us safe. But consider this: Security begins at home. Allowing division over differences can lead to hateful crimes, racial slurs and intolerance, and makes Americans less safe.
Shortly after you won the election, you stated you would be president to all Americans. In an interview on TV the other night, you even looked into the camera and told your supporters to stop harassing minorities. "Stop it," you said.
I am counting on you to mean it. We need to hear, expressed as loudly as during the campaign, that you believe this country is for ALL Americans. Reassure us that our nation will no longer be motivated by fear and that it will come together as one full of a diversity that is respected and embraced.
We want you to use your rhetoric. Use your resources. Tweet us messages of tolerance and unity.
I, along with my daughters and all other Americans who value the freedoms and justice afforded to us, anticipate you will start with making America great at home first. The America that we know stands for liberty and justice for all, so that none of us have to ever contemplate the way I am right now, trading our free choice for safety.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!! How dare you even say this??? What freedom do you VALUE by supporting a Religion that persecutes Women in Islamic countries while Hiding in a NON-Islamic country and still happily flying your Islamic flag and crying that you can't wear the Hijab and get love and acceptance from everybody??? OMG! Fuck you! Why DO YOU DESERVE IT? FOR wearing that SYMBOL of HATE towards women?????? You want Jews to Love people who wear Swastika??? Your dressing is OFFENSIVE!
This is so insulting and so ridiculous to all the Muslim women who are genuinely facing REAL Oppression caused by YOUR Religion! And HAVE ZERO CHOICE but to wear the damn Hijab!

You Aren't facing any Oppression. IF anybody physically hurts you for being Muslim. You go to the Police and they will protect you. And the people who abused you will be punished. And this is PRACTICALLY THANKS TO US not being run by SHARIA laws, the very LAWS invented BY YOUR RELIGION!

Muslim women in Muslim countries are FACING REAL OPPRESSION, PROMOTED BY YOUR RELIGION, where if they got raped for being in anything less than a Hijab, They go crying to their police, they get stoned to DEATH! You know what real persecution is???? THAT is REAL Persecution!

GAWD! Where can I find this woman's email and send this directly to her! Like WTF? THIS is bullshit! Too bad the Muslim women in Muslim countries who are suffering real persecution will probably never get access to the internet to actually READ THIS insulting article.

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You can't have read the last four paragraphs of that OP, then, FD. The implication is quite clear: that a woman wearing a hijab in the USA just must be sharing the symbolic it has for her with all the other women who wear hijabs, anywhere... <snip>

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How about STORIES of Muslim women being ATTACKED for refusing the wear the Hijab in countries where her Religion is practiced?

What does that have to do with events in the US?

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I keep wondering how anyone could possibly avoid the kind of brainwashing that everyone keeps talking about.
Maybe the solution is to become a hermit at birth or never leave the womb in the first place.