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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 12:56:42 AM   
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... the left that is always calling for more wars and more military spending.



A reading of American history would be helpful, here. You'll find that more wars have been started under Dumbocratic presidents than Republicans.

Here's a good rule of thumb that history has taught us:

The difference between Republicans and Dumbocrats is that Republicans want to have a huge, well-funded, well-armed military and send it ... nowhere, while Dumbocrats like to decimate the military and send it everywhere.



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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 1:00:30 AM   
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A reading of American history would be helpful, here. You'll find that more wars have been started under Dumbocratic presidents than Republicans.

Here's a good rule of thumb that history has taught us:

The difference between Republicans and Dumbocrats is that Republicans want to have a huge, well-funded, well-armed military and send it ... nowhere, while Dumbocrats like to decimate the military and send it everywhere.


Things change.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 7:21:03 AM   
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Any power you don't want the "other side" to have is power you can't (if you have any sense) give to your side. As your side is just learning all that power they gave to Obama and company is now in the hands of people they don't trust. Once you and your ilk understand this we will be well on the way to healing.


I'm pretty sure that the president of the United States has been powerful for quite some time now. I don't know why you think Obama was any more powerful than any other president. It isn't the left that is always calling for more wars and more military spending.

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As for saying they might have done the same thing if Hillary had won put you in direct conflict with the article that "proves" every thing.


I didn't say that.

Wow, you just didn't get it did you? Try again, you look silly so far.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 8:04:18 AM   
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Whats a liberal again?
1. The lesser of two fuking idiots, but still a bit of an idiot,
2. Or an utter fuking voting with my paw print for comrade strumpet as i a am a complete pinko pussy from the GOP complete idiot

refresh my memory


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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 9:50:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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Any power you don't want the "other side" to have is power you can't (if you have any sense) give to your side. As your side is just learning all that power they gave to Obama and company is now in the hands of people they don't trust. Once you and your ilk understand this we will be well on the way to healing.


I'm pretty sure that the president of the United States has been powerful for quite some time now. I don't know why you think Obama was any more powerful than any other president. It isn't the left that is always calling for more wars and more military spending.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
As for saying they might have done the same thing if Hillary had won put you in direct conflict with the article that "proves" every thing.


I didn't say that.

Wow, you just didn't get it did you? Try again, you look silly so far.


As far as I can tell, you seem to think that the rise of Trump has proven to these people that all government is dangerous... and now that they're interested in weapons, the next logical step is to become anti-government freedom fighters like yourself.

This is because you think the only reason that anyone would ever disagree with you is because they don't understand where you're coming from, and it couldn't possibly be because they understand where you're coming from but just think you're wrong.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 12:14:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Any power you don't want the "other side" to have is power you can't (if you have any sense) give to your side. As your side is just learning all that power they gave to Obama and company is now in the hands of people they don't trust. Once you and your ilk understand this we will be well on the way to healing.


I'm pretty sure that the president of the United States has been powerful for quite some time now. I don't know why you think Obama was any more powerful than any other president. It isn't the left that is always calling for more wars and more military spending.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
As for saying they might have done the same thing if Hillary had won put you in direct conflict with the article that "proves" every thing.


I didn't say that.

Wow, you just didn't get it did you? Try again, you look silly so far.


As far as I can tell, you seem to think that the rise of Trump has proven to these people that all government is dangerous... and now that they're interested in weapons, the next logical step is to become anti-government freedom fighters like yourself.

This is because you think the only reason that anyone would ever disagree with you is because they don't understand where you're coming from, and it couldn't possibly be because they understand where you're coming from but just think you're wrong.

I've personally never met a liberal that paid any attention to conservative philosophy. I'm not denying there may be some. On the other hand, with the way news media operates now a days, conservative are always aware of liberal pap.

Who was it that said, "if you're not a liberal at 25 you have no heart, but if you're not a conservative at 35 you have no brain."

It's liberal philosophy to want a big government nanny state. Now that liberals are beginning to fear a big government, what would you say their next logical step would be.

I'm sure all your liberal friends cheered that idiot Harry Reid using the nuclear option. I wonder how your liberal friends are going to feel now when it's used against them? Perhaps, they'll go back to wanting what the founders originally established? The Senate difficult to get hasty measures through. I'm sure your liberal friends all loved when Obama had both houses of congress and didn't need, or want, to talk to Republicans. I wonder how they'll feel now? I'm sure all of your liberal friends applauded Obama's overreach using his pen and his phone to bypass the congress. I wonder how they'll feel when Trump wipes that all away with his own?

Do you think all of your liberal friends now think I was wrong when the liberal congress and President ignored half the population?

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 4:42:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
Any power you don't want the "other side" to have is power you can't (if you have any sense) give to your side. As your side is just learning all that power they gave to Obama and company is now in the hands of people they don't trust. Once you and your ilk understand this we will be well on the way to healing.


I'm pretty sure that the president of the United States has been powerful for quite some time now. I don't know why you think Obama was any more powerful than any other president. It isn't the left that is always calling for more wars and more military spending.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
As for saying they might have done the same thing if Hillary had won put you in direct conflict with the article that "proves" every thing.


I didn't say that.

Wow, you just didn't get it did you? Try again, you look silly so far.


As far as I can tell, you seem to think that the rise of Trump has proven to these people that all government is dangerous... and now that they're interested in weapons, the next logical step is to become anti-government freedom fighters like yourself.

This is because you think the only reason that anyone would ever disagree with you is because they don't understand where you're coming from, and it couldn't possibly be because they understand where you're coming from but just think you're wrong.

I've personally never met a liberal that paid any attention to conservative philosophy. I'm not denying there may be some. On the other hand, with the way news media operates now a days, conservative are always aware of liberal pap.

Who was it that said, "if you're not a liberal at 25 you have no heart, but if you're not a conservative at 35 you have no brain."

It's liberal philosophy to want a big government nanny state. Now that liberals are beginning to fear a big government, what would you say their next logical step would be.

I'm sure all your liberal friends cheered that idiot Harry Reid using the nuclear option. I wonder how your liberal friends are going to feel now when it's used against them? Perhaps, they'll go back to wanting what the founders originally established? The Senate difficult to get hasty measures through. I'm sure your liberal friends all loved when Obama had both houses of congress and didn't need, or want, to talk to Republicans. I wonder how they'll feel now? I'm sure all of your liberal friends applauded Obama's overreach using his pen and his phone to bypass the congress. I wonder how they'll feel when Trump wipes that all away with his own?

Do you think all of your liberal friends now think I was wrong when the liberal congress and President ignored half the population?

If liberals are buying guns because they don't feel safe with a Republican in the WH does this mean that when they get another Democrat in the WH they will get rid of them?
But of course when conservatives have guns that is always bad.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 4:48:06 PM   
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Wrong, the fact that there are background being run doesn't prove anything.
Wrong, someday they will be experienced but they aren't and unlike my son, for example gun safety is not second nature to them.
And wrong, you even state that they are motivated by fear.
So you thinkthat restrictions are worse than bans?


You say that background checks doesn't mean anything . . . so you think those people are just having it done for the fun of it?

Second SOME experience is better than NO experience.

Not motivated by fear. You are SO wrong about that. People are literally SCARED of what might happen with Trump, myself included. I, along with many, MANY more people can see a possible near future where anarchy is the rule. Personally, and ONLY because of Trump, I am stocking up on ammunition for the various guns I have. I wish I could afford to get another one or two guns, but what I have is a pretty good cross section. And I am converting a fairly substantial part of my savings to silver, which would still have some trading value if the U.S. economy tanks and our "money" is useless.


You are stocking up on guns and ammunition because you don't like the people in power now, since you don't like them you "know " the world in going to collapse in the next 4 years, and even though you "know" that having guns in your house is more dangerous than any outside threat?
Don't tell me you will be safe, because I have been shooting for 58 years (since I was 8) without an accident and you know it isn't safe for me.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 6:09:18 PM   
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Liberals have always bought guns, nothing new here, nor remarkable in the US.

Bingo. We have a winner.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 6:28:38 PM   
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I understand that sometimes ammo is hard to get.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 6:50:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

... the left that is always calling for more wars and more military spending.



A reading of American history would be helpful, here. You'll find that more wars have been started under Dumbocratic presidents than Republicans.

Here's a good rule of thumb that history has taught us:

The difference between Republicans and Dumbocrats is that Republicans want to have a huge, well-funded, well-armed military and send it ... nowhere, while Dumbocrats like to decimate the military and send it everywhere.



Michael


Calling bull on that one.

Let's see your accounting.

We actually debunked that one once before on this board.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 8:26:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
If liberals are buying guns because they don't feel safe with a Republican in the WH does this mean that when they get another Democrat in the WH they will get rid of them?
But of course when conservatives have guns that is always bad.


Trump is NOT a normal Republican.
How could you possibly not understand this?

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 9:37:22 PM   
heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
I've personally never met a liberal that paid any attention to conservative philosophy. I'm not denying there may be some. On the other hand, with the way news media operates now a days, conservative are always aware of liberal pap.


Is conservative 'philosophy' really so complicated to grasp?

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Who was it that said, "if you're not a liberal at 25 you have no heart, but if you're not a conservative at 35 you have no brain."


Another self-congratulating conservative.
I keep hearing people say it was Winston Churchill.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
It's liberal philosophy to want a big government nanny state. Now that liberals are beginning to fear a big government, what would you say their next logical step would be.


The logic you're operating under here is like saying that because the Allies fought the Nazis in WWII, all Allied countries were anti-big-government just because the Axis powers had big governments. You can have 2 similar-sized governments with different ideological beliefs, with different policies... sort of like you can have North Korea or you can have Denmark.

If you can't grasp this and don't understand why you're using a false dichotomy, then there is no point in continuing to discuss this with you.

So MY next logical step would be to tell you AGAIN that you're making a huge leap by saying that fearing a Trump government is the same thing as fearing a big government. It's not about the size or scope of the government, it's about the POLICIES... but in Trump's case, so far it's about his fucked up personality, impulsiveness, vindictiveness and general shittiness as a person, and how that's going to translate into his leadership style. He's putting people on edge by acting like a 12 year old with ADHD on Twitter, at his rallies and in interviews... it's like watching a meth addict in a china store.


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
I'm sure all your liberal friends cheered that idiot Harry Reid using the nuclear option. I wonder how your liberal friends are going to feel now when it's used against them? Perhaps, they'll go back to wanting what the founders originally established? The Senate difficult to get hasty measures through. I'm sure your liberal friends all loved when Obama had both houses of congress and didn't need, or want, to talk to Republicans. I wonder how they'll feel now? I'm sure all of your liberal friends applauded Obama's overreach using his pen and his phone to bypass the congress. I wonder how they'll feel when Trump wipes that all away with his own?

Do you think all of your liberal friends now think I was wrong when the liberal congress and President ignored half the population?


Obviously people prefer it when the government acts according to their own beliefs... but ending up with a President Trump is one of the risks associated with democracy. The only way to get rid of that risk is to get rid of democracy at the right moment (which isn't going to happen).

I can't speak for everyone, but anyone with firm beliefs isn't going to suddenly abandon their belief in national public services, unified global action on climate change or social welfare just because Trump won the election. You can't have unified global action on climate change without a large central government. You can't have universal public health care, strategic wealth redistribution, universal human rights, social equality, etc.

You can't have any of these things under President Pieceofshit either, but you're not going to get them by turning your back on the entire notion of government.

BTW, the Green Party believes you can have decentralized power AND leftist values. They're not conservatives, no matter how much you want to believe that your 'side' is the only group that actually wants that. I doubt you've ever really looked into it, though... you seem pretty wrapped up in your false dichotomy.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 9:44:26 PM   
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If liberals are buying guns because they don't feel safe with a Republican in the WH does this mean that when they get another Democrat in the WH they will get rid of them?
But of course when conservatives have guns that is always bad.


Trump is NOT a normal Republican.
How could you possibly not understand this?



When did ya finally figure that one out? Ya finally got one right, he's not a normal Republican. He doesn't put up with crap from the media. He doesn't give a rats ass about political correctness. And he hits back hard when he's attacked. As a matter of fact, I can't think of another Republican that is like him though maybe 1 or 2 come close. It's about time we had a Republican for president who is not some squishy, me too like a Democrat, RINO jelly shit spineless weak kneed pussy.

ETA: And please you guys, keep coming up with these blubbery whiney ass hate Trump threads. It's sooooo entertaining.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 9:46:28 PM   
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When did ya finally figure that one out? And yer correct, he's not a normal Republican. He doesn't put up with crap from the media. He doesn't give a rats ass about political correctness. And he hits back hard when he's attacked. As a matter of fact, I can't think of another Republican that is like him though maybe 1 or 2 come close. It's about time we had a Republican for president who is not some squishy, me too like a Democrat, RINO jelly shit spineless weak kneed pussy.


Thanks for reminding me why Trump loves the poorly educated.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 9:55:03 PM   
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When did ya finally figure that one out? And yer correct, he's not a normal Republican. He doesn't put up with crap from the media. He doesn't give a rats ass about political correctness. And he hits back hard when he's attacked. As a matter of fact, I can't think of another Republican that is like him though maybe 1 or 2 come close. It's about time we had a Republican for president who is not some squishy, me too like a Democrat, RINO jelly shit spineless weak kneed pussy.


Thanks for reminding me why Trump loves the poorly educated.


Finally you're at the acceptance stage. You admit that he loves you guys too.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 10:00:48 PM   
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If liberals are buying guns because they don't feel safe with a Republican in the WH does this mean that when they get another Democrat in the WH they will get rid of them?
But of course when conservatives have guns that is always bad.


Trump is NOT a normal Republican.
How could you possibly not understand this?

Of course his is not a normal Republican.
Unlike Bush senior he wouldn't take all that crap about Willy Horton without pointing out that it started with the Gore campaign.
He wouldn't have taken all that crap that Dole did when they hit him as a racist for pointing out that Clinton was taking illegal donations from the Chinese.
And as you know he put the birther stuff right back on Hillary's doorstep where it belongs.
And he would have trashed Crowley for lying to help Obama in 2012 (and she admitted it after the debate.
Finally he would have not let it pass when the Democrats tried to eliminate him by claiming he wasn't a natural born citizen because his family (who were US military) were off base when he was born.
In other words when attacked with trash by scum unlike the others he wasn't trying to being a nice guy and ignoring it he fought back just like the Dems have for 3 decades, he campaigned like a Democrat and the Democrats can dish it out but they can't take it.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 10:14:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
When did ya finally figure that one out? And yer correct, he's not a normal Republican. He doesn't put up with crap from the media. He doesn't give a rats ass about political correctness. And he hits back hard when he's attacked. As a matter of fact, I can't think of another Republican that is like him though maybe 1 or 2 come close. It's about time we had a Republican for president who is not some squishy, me too like a Democrat, RINO jelly shit spineless weak kneed pussy.


Thanks for reminding me why Trump loves the poorly educated.


Finally you're at the acceptance stage. You admit that he loves you guys too.


So basically 'I know you are, but what am I?'.
Oh the joys of talking to Trump supporters.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 10:22:05 PM   
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Of course his is not a normal Republican.
Unlike Bush senior he wouldn't take all that crap about Willy Horton without pointing out that it started with the Gore campaign.
He wouldn't have taken all that crap that Dole did when they hit him as a racist for pointing out that Clinton was taking illegal donations from the Chinese.
And as you know he put the birther stuff right back on Hillary's doorstep where it belongs.
And he would have trashed Crowley for lying to help Obama in 2012 (and she admitted it after the debate.
Finally he would have not let it pass when the Democrats tried to eliminate him by claiming he wasn't a natural born citizen because his family (who were US military) were off base when he was born.
In other words when attacked with trash by scum unlike the others he wasn't trying to being a nice guy and ignoring it he fought back just like the Dems have for 3 decades, he campaigned like a Democrat and the Democrats can dish it out but they can't take it.


I'm not even going to go into all of this high school drama.
I was talking about what he wants to do to America and the world.

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RE: US Liberals are buying guns - 12/26/2016 11:13:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
When did ya finally figure that one out? And yer correct, he's not a normal Republican. He doesn't put up with crap from the media. He doesn't give a rats ass about political correctness. And he hits back hard when he's attacked. As a matter of fact, I can't think of another Republican that is like him though maybe 1 or 2 come close. It's about time we had a Republican for president who is not some squishy, me too like a Democrat, RINO jelly shit spineless weak kneed pussy.


Thanks for reminding me why Trump loves the poorly educated.


Finally you're at the acceptance stage. You admit that he loves you guys too.


So basically 'I know you are, but what am I?'.
Oh the joys of talking to Trump supporters.


Oh the joys of whiney libs pissing all over themselves because their pantsuit lost

< Message edited by lovmuffin -- 12/26/2016 11:16:02 PM >


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