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No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 9:30:52 AM   
tamaka


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Status: offline 		OBEDIENCE TO PROPHET MUHAMMAD A MUST FOR ALL

In reality, no one has the right to accept the other prophets while rejecting the Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him. No one has the right to say that Muhammad was truthful but, “I chose to still follow Jesus or Moses instead.” Logically speaking, one should not expect this to be acceptable to God. God has sent His final messenger to be believed in and followed, superseding and canceling what is left of the teachings of earlier prophets.

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/506/inclusiveness-of-islam-part-2/

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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 9:57:04 AM   
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OBEDIENCE TO PROPHET MUHAMMAD A MUST FOR ALL

In reality, no one has the right to accept the other prophets while rejecting the Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him. No one has the right to say that Muhammad was truthful but, “I chose to still follow Jesus or Moses instead.” Logically speaking, one should not expect this to be acceptable to God. God has sent His final messenger to be believed in and followed, superseding and canceling what is left of the teachings of earlier prophets.

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/506/inclusiveness-of-islam-part-2/


And from the "other" side, the first of 10 "commandments" (issued directly from their God):
I am the Lord, thy God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.

Seems like every religion has a form of this directive as part of their basic tenets, i.e., their respective God is the only one true God, and all others are false gods.

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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 10:01:35 AM   
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And i doubt that you'll find a Christian website that declares obedience to Jesus is MUST for ALL.

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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 10:07:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tamaka

OBEDIENCE TO PROPHET MUHAMMAD A MUST FOR ALL

In reality, no one has the right to accept the other prophets while rejecting the Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him. No one has the right to say that Muhammad was truthful but, “I chose to still follow Jesus or Moses instead.” Logically speaking, one should not expect this to be acceptable to God. God has sent His final messenger to be believed in and followed, superseding and canceling what is left of the teachings of earlier prophets.

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/506/inclusiveness-of-islam-part-2/


And from the "other" side, the first of 10 "commandments" (issued directly from their God):
I am the Lord, thy God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.

Seems like every religion has a form of this directive as part of their basic tenets, i.e., their respective God is the only one true God, and all others are false gods.
The difference being that in Judaism, capital punishment was not only rare, but required such stringent standards of proof that it almost never occurred. The practice was discontinued entirely after 70AD.

Contrast this with Islam which promotes racially and religiously motivated murder.


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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 1:38:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tamaka

OBEDIENCE TO PROPHET MUHAMMAD A MUST FOR ALL

In reality, no one has the right to accept the other prophets while rejecting the Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him. No one has the right to say that Muhammad was truthful but, “I chose to still follow Jesus or Moses instead.” Logically speaking, one should not expect this to be acceptable to God. God has sent His final messenger to be believed in and followed, superseding and canceling what is left of the teachings of earlier prophets.

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/506/inclusiveness-of-islam-part-2/


And from the "other" side, the first of 10 "commandments" (issued directly from their God):
I am the Lord, thy God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.

Seems like every religion has a form of this directive as part of their basic tenets, i.e., their respective God is the only one true God, and all others are false gods.
The difference being that in Judaism, capital punishment was not only rare, but required such stringent standards of proof that it almost never occurred. The practice was discontinued entirely after 70AD.

Contrast this with Islam which promotes racially and religiously motivated murder.


After 70CE most Jews were banished from the Roman colony of Palestine so if anyone banned CP it was the Romans. Otherwise you are maliciously promoting bigoted, fear mongering islamophobia like the other sicko nativists on this forum.

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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 2:11:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Suffice it to conclude whosoever fails to observe the doctrine of their god and worships another, will for all eternity...burn in hell.

So 2 out of 3 these monotheists...will do just that.

The real problem is the problem of any gods at all...they all having been created by man. Thus man can say or believe about their god...anything they want and act in anyway they want, in the name of (their) god.



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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 2:16:53 PM   
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God is not the entity being discussed in my post.

And i doubt that you'll find a Christian website that declares obedience to Jesus is MUST for ALL.

God is not an entity at all except in one's imagination. When assuming any gods...logic is abandoned altogether.

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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 2:25:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mr Rodgers How would you explain the first molicues creation if it weren't devine intervention? Just askin cause you are entitled to your belief system :D

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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 2:37:22 PM   
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Mr Rodgers How would you explain the first molicues creation if it weren't devine intervention? Just askin cause you are entitled to your belief system :D


Darwinian evolution??

There are many on this mudball that do not believe in any god and there by extension do not believe in divine intervention.


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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 3:20:34 PM   
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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 3:25:56 PM   
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Mr Rodgers How would you explain the first molicues creation if it weren't devine intervention? Just askin cause you are entitled to your belief system :D

Darwinian evolution??

Well actually, no. Biological evolution presupposes biology. The origins of life are something we haven't nailed down yet.

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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 4:02:24 PM   
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the atheist cannot find God for the same reason a thief cannot find a policeman.



I'm stealing this, brother.



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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 4:55:11 PM   
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RE: No one has the right... - 1/31/2017 4:58:46 PM   
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RE: No one has the right... - 2/1/2017 2:00:59 AM   
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Just kill all these nuts.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/1/2017 2:29:02 AM   
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And i doubt that you'll find a Christian website that declares obedience to Jesus is MUST for ALL.

Obedience to Jesus is not even such a bad thing. What could go wrong following Jesus? He never killed anybody. He was never physically violent towards others. He preached turn the other cheek.

So IF ONLY Christianity has this Obedience to Jesus thingy, imagine how much more peaceful this whole world is gonna be. But Christianity is about Free Will, although Free Will still means, Believe or Go to Hell. But Hey! That's After Life!

But Obedience to Muhammad, a war lord who have murdered by example. That's why we have ISIS.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/1/2017 3:59:35 AM   
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After 70CE most Jews were banished from the Roman colony of Palestine so if anyone banned CP it was the Romans. Otherwise you are maliciously promoting bigoted, fear mongering islamophobia like the other sicko nativists on this forum.
Your vague hand-waving contention that geography somehow affects Jewish law is stupid, but consistent with your lack of intelligence. And Islamic murder is well-documented in the Koran and the various hadith. You attempting to deny the Islamic promotion of murder is a vile lie.


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RE: No one has the right... - 2/1/2017 4:09:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tamaka

OBEDIENCE TO PROPHET MUHAMMAD A MUST FOR ALL

In reality, no one has the right to accept the other prophets while rejecting the Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him.

The Bible warns to be on the watch for false prophets and thus there will be some prophets that should be accepted and some that should be rejected and so a person has the right to reject the "Prophet Muhammad" if they feel he is a false prophet.
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No one has the right to say that Muhammad was truthful but, “I chose to still follow Jesus or Moses instead.”

True but most of those who chose to "follow Jesus or Moses" don't say "Muhammad was truthful" and don't fall under your statement here.
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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Logically speaking, one should not expect this to be acceptable to God.

Logically speaking, your argument has a number logical holes in it.
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ORIGINAL: tamaka
God has sent His final messenger to be believed in and followed, superseding and canceling what is left of the teachings of earlier prophets.
Again, one would have to believe that God sent Muhammad and that he is God's final messenger; most who follow Jesus or Moses, not to mention atheists, don't believe that.

Thus your opening statement; OBEDIENCE TO PROPHET MUHAMMAD A MUST FOR ALL, has not been proven.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/1/2017 4:20:00 AM   
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God is not the entity being discussed in my post.

And i doubt that you'll find a Christian website that declares obedience to Jesus is MUST for ALL.
Perhaps those exact words will not be found but the thought will be found.

Christians believe that there will be many who will not follow Christianity but that those who do not follow it will face the penalty.

Pretty much making it a must for all.

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RE: No one has the right... - 2/1/2017 4:29:03 AM   
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the atheist cannot find God for the same reason a thief cannot find a policeman.

That's a good one I'll have to remember it.

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