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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Just what the fuck is wrong with deporting illegals?

I mean granted, we deport them, they come back and we do it again.

Which leads me to the next idea:

Bring our troops home to patrol the border, and mine the shit out of it.

Ships bringing illegals into ports can be seized, the illegal passengers thrown out and if caught again, put em in a fucking hell hole of a prison till they rot.

Sorry, but I really am tired of the debate, if they really want to come to this country, let em do it legally, or face something that will actually deter others from trying.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Just what the fuck is wrong with deporting illegals?

I mean granted, we deport them, they come back and we do it again.

Which leads me to the next idea:

Bring our troops home to patrol the border, and mine the shit out of it.

Ships bringing illegals into ports can be seized, the illegal passengers thrown out and if caught again, put em in a fucking hell hole of a prison till they rot.

Sorry, but I really am tired of the debate, if they really want to come to this country, let em do it legally, or face something that will actually deter others from trying.

First thing that springs to mind: Cost. The people who are most into controlling borders tend also to be the ones who don't like paying high taxes to big-spending governments. Lots of military personnel across long, long borders; big prisons full of inmates .... those pennies add up.

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ORIGINAL: MercTech


Deportation of illegal immigrants in lieu of spending money on prosecution and incarceration is quite common.

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Jorge Ramos: America Is ‘Our Country, Not Theirs’—‘And We Are Not Going to Leave’

Univision senior anchor Jorge Ramos declared on Friday that the United States belongs to Latino migrants, emphatically stating to a Spanish-speaking audience that “it is our country, not theirs.”
Ramos took an unusual tack, pivoting from talk of diversity and togetherness into boasts of conquest. Mass immigration, particularly illegal immigration, was a fait accompli. There is nothing the U.S. can do about it, and they must accept that America is “not their” country and that illegal aliens, particularly Latinos, “are not going to leave,” he said.

“I am an immigrant, just like many of you,” Ramos said in Spanish, as translated by the Media Research Center. “I am a proud Latino immigrant here in the United States. My name is Jorge Ramos, and I work at Univision and at the Fusion network.”

“And you know exactly what is going on here in the United States. There are many people who do not want us to be here, and who want to create a wall in order to separate us,” he said.

“But you know what? This is also our country. Let me repeat this: Our country, not theirs. It is our country. And we are not going to leave. We are nearly 60 million Latinos in the United States,” he continued. “And thanks to us, the United States eats, grows and, as we’ve seen today, sings and dances.”

“So when they attack us, we already know what we are going to do. We are not going to sit down. We will not shut up. And we will not leave. That is what we are going to do,” he added.

Ramos gave his speech on Friday during Premios Lo Nuestro, or “Our Awards,” on Univision.

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Deportation vs Incarceration
Deportation of criminal immigrants, both legal and illegal, is much cheaper than incarceration. You get a group processed for deportation. The deportees get on a bus. The bus goes across the border. The deportees get off.. sayonara! Or, if they are wanted in the receiving country, they get off the bus to be handcuffed.
This is not some new fascist concept. If you are working on a work visa in Canada and you get more than one DUI; you just may end up escorted to the border and let off at the U.S. entry port.

Deportation of illegal immigrants in lieu of spending money on prosecution and incarceration is quite common.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Just what the fuck is wrong with deporting illegals?

I mean granted, we deport them, they come back and we do it again.

Which leads me to the next idea:

Bring our troops home to patrol the border, and mine the shit out of it.

Ships bringing illegals into ports can be seized, the illegal passengers thrown out and if caught again, put em in a fucking hell hole of a prison till they rot.

Sorry, but I really am tired of the debate, if they really want to come to this country, let em do it legally, or face something that will actually deter others from trying.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Just what the fuck is wrong with deporting illegals?

I mean granted, we deport them, they come back and we do it again.

Which leads me to the next idea:

Bring our troops home to patrol the border, and mine the shit out of it.

Ships bringing illegals into ports can be seized, the illegal passengers thrown out and if caught again, put em in a fucking hell hole of a prison till they rot.

Sorry, but I really am tired of the debate, if they really want to come to this country, let em do it legally, or face something that will actually deter others from trying.

First thing that springs to mind: Cost. The people who are most into controlling borders tend also to be the ones who don't like paying high taxes to big-spending governments. Lots of military personnel across long, long borders; big prisons full of inmates .... those pennies add up.

Actually the cost of using US troops to patrol the borders is about 30% of the cost of maintaining all the bases in countries with a high anti American sentiment. Factor in the cost to lease the land those bases are on, it drops to 15%.

Thus, we get troops out of countries where they are obviously not welcome, boosting moral of the troops in the process.

Secondly, as for the prisons, I am thinking along the lines of work camps, lots of razor wire, high fences, small number of personnel needed. The inmates want to eat, they work. They dont work, well there are still warehouses full of old c-rations that are still technically safe to eat, although about as appealing as roasted dog shit.

The Detention centers presently in use are palaces compared to the average third world home, so make them worse than what they left behind.

As for the migrant workers that do the farm harvests, there was a program for that years ago, reinstate it. Non citizens can come into the country for the harvest season, and leave when its over.

And to track them, use a technique every NWO/one world government conspiracy theorist has been screaming about for years, implant them with an RFID chip. It works for dogs and horses, use it on people.

And I am not being sarcastic. I live in a part of the country with a high number of illegals. And the amnesty crap that has been pulled in the past just encourages more to come into the country.

I am saying zero tolerance.

The US already has a bad rep in some parts of the world, some of it only partially earned, lets forget winning hearts and minds (since it clearly is not working) and go for instilling the fear of god in some of these people.

For instance, some terrorist group executes an American citizen, how about the entire strike force of B52's pull round the clock carpet bombing on the area where it happened for 4 days. Granted the innocent will die along with the guilty, but then the innocents may grow a set and take out the assholes bringing down the hell on their heads.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Just what the fuck is wrong with deporting illegals?

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I mean granted, we deport them, they come back and we do it again.
Which leads me to the next idea:
Bring our troops home to patrol the border, and mine the shit out of it.

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Ships bringing illegals into ports can be seized, the illegal passengers thrown out and if caught again, put em in a fucking hell hole of a prison till they rot.

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Sorry, but I really am tired of the debate, if they really want to come to this country, let em do it legally, or face something that will actually deter others from trying.

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I would also add implanted birth control for the women. And if the must take a pregnancy test before entering the US.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Just what the fuck is wrong with deporting illegals?

Obviously, you're a racist, xenophobic, immigrant hater. That's what's wrong with that.

Or, nothing wrong with deporting illegals. It's one of those two.

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I mean granted, we deport them, they come back and we do it again.
Which leads me to the next idea:
Bring our troops home to patrol the border, and mine the shit out of it.

Aren't mines outlawed by the UN, or is that just for certain applications (real question)? I'd rather we use newly discharged military as US BP and/or ICE as a "step down" from military life to civilian life.

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Ships bringing illegals into ports can be seized, the illegal passengers thrown out and if caught again, put em in a fucking hell hole of a prison till they rot.

Put them up in Guantanamo.

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Sorry, but I really am tired of the debate, if they really want to come to this country, let em do it legally, or face something that will actually deter others from trying.

I do believe we need to make the legal process faster, easier, and less costly. That just might help reduce the number of immigrants attempting illegal entry. Granted, it won't drop the number of illegal attempts all that much, but it would have some impact.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Just what the fuck is wrong with deporting illegals?

I mean granted, we deport them, they come back and we do it again.

Which leads me to the next idea:

Bring our troops home to patrol the border, and mine the shit out of it.

Ships bringing illegals into ports can be seized, the illegal passengers thrown out and if caught again, put em in a fucking hell hole of a prison till they rot.

Sorry, but I really am tired of the debate, if they really want to come to this country, let em do it legally, or face something that will actually deter others from trying.

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

You would need listening devices strung along the border too Jeff, to listen for tunnelling and then of course, the appropriate shaped charges to halt said tunnelling, once it was on the American side of that border. If the Palestinians can do it, I'm sure the Mexicans can.

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I would also add implanted birth control for the women. And if the must take a pregnancy test before entering the US.

Would this apply to everyone entering the US or just those with brown skin?

You realize that the men can procreate to produce US born babies too.. and "Casanova's" can have a lot more of them in less time than the women...

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ORIGINAL: Aylee


If we could temporarily sterilize the males as cheaply, safely, and with as little side effects as we could the females, I would be in favor of it. But we can't. So it is a moot point. Just because something cannot be perfect does not mean that we should not do anything at all.