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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 2:07:25 PM   
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Nice little rant, but it shows both no reading comprehension and a disregard for data.

Point 1: the theme is that gun buyers buy into the hysteria. Since I didn't buy any guns, apparently I didn't find the lobby frightening.

Point 2: the data is the data. Provide alternate and supported interpretations if you like. Pretending it's not there is just irrational.


It's not entirely hysteria . Clinton tried and almost succeeded banning an entire class of firearms. Obama wanted to take it further.


I assure you there will be no credible citation of either.


I guess you've never heard of the nutsucker Clintons assault weapon ban.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 2:09:06 PM   
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Well, that would be because the article the OP addresses is about gun sales in the Obama and Trump years.

That's why it doesn't say anything about Bush or Reagan or Jefferson for that matter.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 2:15:46 PM   
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Nice little rant, but it shows both no reading comprehension and a disregard for data.

Point 1: the theme is that gun buyers buy into the hysteria. Since I didn't buy any guns, apparently I didn't find the lobby frightening.

Point 2: the data is the data. Provide alternate and supported interpretations if you like. Pretending it's not there is just irrational.


It's not entirely hysteria . Clinton tried and almost succeeded banning an entire class of firearms. Obama wanted to take it further.


I assure you there will be no credible citation of either.


I guess you've never heard of the nutsucker Clintons assault weapon ban.

No I havent. there was an assault weapons ban that lasted for 10 years (IN THE LAW that was signed)

I do remember the nutsucker st. wrinklemeat signing a letter begging the nutsuckers to vote for that law, and nutsuckers did vote. I also remember the nutsucker st. wrinklemeat signing an actual permanent ban on new machine guns in 1986.

I dont remember Obama signing any type of shit like that.



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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 2:15:46 PM   
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Well, that would be because the article the OP addresses is about gun sales in the Obama and Trump years.

That's why it doesn't say anything about Bush or Reagan or Jefferson for that matter.


Of course it doesn't say anything about those guys. They didn't try to ban a whole bunch of guns.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 2:18:43 PM   
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Reagan and Nixon did a lot of gun banning in office.

Jefferson banned guns at the Uni of VA.

So, there is that deal that nutsuckers are gun grabbing permabanners.

But as noted, the article wasnt about them banning guns.


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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 2:19:16 PM   
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I dont remember Obama signing any type of shit like that.


It wasn't for lack of trying. He would have signed that shit given the chance.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 2:19:28 PM   
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Neither did Obama. But the gullible quintupled gun purchases believing it, and stopped when Trump was elected, slowing sales.

That's what the article is about. Think you follow now?

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 2:21:25 PM   
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I dont remember Obama signing any type of shit like that.


It wasn't for lack of trying. He would have signed that shit given the chance.

Of course, I remember the 50+ times that he introduced that gun repeal..........no, wait that was the nutsuckers on obamacare.
I remember he called for sensible gun laws, NICS on private sales and closing loopholes in gunshow and getting NICS to work, but that was simply rhetoric, he didnt TRY any of it.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 2:53:03 PM   
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I dont remember Obama signing any type of shit like that.


It wasn't for lack of trying. He would have signed that shit given the chance.

Obama pushed for a return of the guns that look like assault weapons ban. He also told us that something about it being easier for a minor to get an "assault weapon" than a loaf of bread. But why should we think he wanted to grab guns?

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 2:55:03 PM   
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Neither did Obama. But the gullible quintupled gun purchases believing it, and stopped when Trump was elected, slowing sales.

That's what the article is about. Think you follow now?

Yes he did, but every gun grabbing bill Obama pushed failed.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 3:19:47 PM   
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Sluts are always good for the economy. Sluts sell.


All the way back to cave man writings.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 3:41:30 PM   
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Neither did Obama. But the gullible quintupled gun purchases believing it, and stopped when Trump was elected, slowing sales.

That's what the article is about. Think you follow now?


I clearly didn't say Obama banned any guns. I said he pushed for the legislation and would have signed it.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 3:45:03 PM   
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I dont remember Obama signing any type of shit like that.


It wasn't for lack of trying. He would have signed that shit given the chance.

Of course, I remember the 50+ times that he introduced that gun repeal..........no, wait that was the nutsuckers on obamacare.
I remember he called for sensible gun laws, NICS on private sales and closing loopholes in gunshow and getting NICS to work, but that was simply rhetoric, he didnt TRY any of it.


He also pushed for banning semi-annual assault weapons whatever those are.

ETA: no one has a problem with tightening up background checks. Gun show loophole is a buzz word for trying to fool people into thinking they don't do background checks at gun shows when in reality the libs want background checks for private sales and exchanges thus opening the back door for registration. I haven't ever heard much in the way of anything sensible concerning guns from Democrats.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 3:49:06 PM   
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Reagan and Nixon did a lot of gun banning in office.

Jefferson banned guns at the Uni of VA.

So, there is that deal that nutsuckers are gun grabbing permabanners.

But as noted, the article wasnt about them banning guns.



You're going to have to clue me in on the guns Nixon and Reagan banned. I'm aware of the 1986 legislation where a deal was made to loosen restrictions on things like doing paperwork for ammo in exchange for restricting class 3 weapons. It was a bad deal.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 4:17:36 PM   
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I dont remember Obama signing any type of shit like that.


It wasn't for lack of trying. He would have signed that shit given the chance.

Of course, I remember the 50+ times that he introduced that gun repeal..........no, wait that was the nutsuckers on obamacare.
I remember he called for sensible gun laws, NICS on private sales and closing loopholes in gunshow and getting NICS to work, but that was simply rhetoric, he didnt TRY any of it.


He also pushed for banning semi-annual assault weapons whatever those are.

ETA: no one has a problem with tightening up background checks. Gun show loophole is a buzz word for trying to fool people into thinking they don't do background checks at gun shows when in reality the libs want background checks for private sales and exchanges thus opening the back door for registration. I haven't ever heard much in the way of anything sensible concerning guns from Democrats.

Semi auto assault weapons are a work of fiction to scare people in to banning semi automatics.
These things are what pass for "sensible" gun control. And every one of them are aimed , not at criminals, but at legitimate gun owners.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 4:32:15 PM   
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Guns - any fuker want to try with me

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 4:38:50 PM   
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I dont remember Obama signing any type of shit like that.


It wasn't for lack of trying. He would have signed that shit given the chance.

Of course, I remember the 50+ times that he introduced that gun repeal..........no, wait that was the nutsuckers on obamacare.
I remember he called for sensible gun laws, NICS on private sales and closing loopholes in gunshow and getting NICS to work, but that was simply rhetoric, he didnt TRY any of it.


He also pushed for banning semi-annual assault weapons whatever those are.

ETA: no one has a problem with tightening up background checks. Gun show loophole is a buzz word for trying to fool people into thinking they don't do background checks at gun shows when in reality the libs want background checks for private sales and exchanges thus opening the back door for registration. I haven't ever heard much in the way of anything sensible concerning guns from Democrats.

Semi auto assault weapons are a work of fiction to scare people in to banning semi automatics.
These things are what pass for "sensible" gun control. And every one of them are aimed , not at criminals, but at legitimate gun owners.


Absolutely, and it's especially absurd considering that less than a fraction of a percent of rifles of any kind of are used out of all crimes committed.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 6:03:07 PM   
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I dont remember Obama signing any type of shit like that.


It wasn't for lack of trying. He would have signed that shit given the chance.

Obama pushed for a return of the guns that look like assault weapons ban. He also told us that something about it being easier for a minor to get an "assault weapon" than a loaf of bread. But why should we think he wanted to grab guns?

I dont know welfare patient, because you are retarded. Show evidence of that push that never happened. Was a bill introduced with him beaming over it? Were the head nutsuckers called up on the carpet at the whitehouse and read the riot act? Seems like you got enough trouble pushing your retarded shit and proclaiming all this asswipe without a bit of fact. but as an 'intellagence' officer I suppose you know. You and Wayne Simmons served in the same cook unit during the big one I bet. *snicker*

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 6:10:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I dont remember Obama signing any type of shit like that.


It wasn't for lack of trying. He would have signed that shit given the chance.

Of course, I remember the 50+ times that he introduced that gun repeal..........no, wait that was the nutsuckers on obamacare.
I remember he called for sensible gun laws, NICS on private sales and closing loopholes in gunshow and getting NICS to work, but that was simply rhetoric, he didnt TRY any of it.


He also pushed for banning semi-annual assault weapons whatever those are.

ETA: no one has a problem with tightening up background checks. Gun show loophole is a buzz word for trying to fool people into thinking they don't do background checks at gun shows when in reality the libs want background checks for private sales and exchanges thus opening the back door for registration. I haven't ever heard much in the way of anything sensible concerning guns from Democrats.

Semi auto assault weapons are a work of fiction to scare people in to banning semi automatics.
These things are what pass for "sensible" gun control. And every one of them are aimed , not at criminals, but at legitimate gun owners.


Absolutely, and it's especially absurd considering that less than a fraction of a percent of rifles of any kind of are used out of all crimes committed.

Isn't it funny that during each push for more restrictions on legitimate gun owners we constantly heard about how we were not going to have whichever "toys" anymore and then the same people after the push failed would insist that any fear they were trying to do x,y,or z that they had just tried to do was just paranoia because they hadn't done any of them. They always forget that it wasn't that they didn't try to do these things it was that they failed to do them.

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RE: FOX: Trump bad for gun sales - 4/3/2017 6:28:43 PM   
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A weird way of saying:

A) none or their fears came to pass,
B) yet they bought five times as many guns,
C) and you think OTHER people are the hysterical ones.

That about it?

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