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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Simple, they are required to turn on the body cams when they see any chance of violence, the white cop didn't see any.
Remember he was surprised when this guy started shooting.
Your earlier outburst was to bigoted to understand that if he was hired to fill a quota that was the departments fault, not his.

I read that there are eight Somalians on the force; he was the first. There is no quota system anywhere; the Supreme Court has struck that down. You are full of shit.

There are unofficial quota systems everywhere. Dont be a child.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Just as an exercise, I went back through the thread and checked your 15 or so posts to see if you once expressed some regret or compassion for the victim of this sad incident. Guess what! Not once did I find anything even remotely resembling regret or compassion for the victim. Not once did you pay lip service to her unfortunate demise, or even hint or attempt it.

Unsurprisingly, you did find it in your heart to unearth some empathy for the shooter's police partner:
"His partner may have had his hearing ruined for life." (post #35)
So it cannot be said that your empathy deficit is complete.

You also managed to find ways of criticising diversity hiring, AA programs and critics of police killings. Apparently you hold these people and policies at least partially responsible for this woman's death. One can only conclude that your fondness (read: obsession) with guns and gun rights is far closer to your heart than the death of an obviously innocent woman at the hands of the police (another one of your obsessions) whose culpability you have sought to minimise or exonerate at every opportunity.

I hope the above might alert you to the one eyed way you approach and understand some of the issues raised by this case. Your obsessions are blinding you to the facts and causing you to make poor decisions as well as turning you into an emotional freezer. If you are not careful you are going to end up like Bosco, who is not considered by any sane person to be a role model worth emulating. You can do something about it if you so choose. If you don't ... well, choosing to cling to obsessions is rarely a good healthy choice ...

I think you're letting your emotions get away from you and allowing them to overrule thought process. You apparently also seem to think that leftist policies like Afirmative Action and diversity hiring should overrule hiring the most qualified for a job, which, apparently, in this case got a woman killed. It's too bad that you are so willing to sacrifice the life of a woman on your alter of leftist policies. But, then, if you didn't do that you and all of your friends wouldn't have jobs would you?

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Dont misquote anyone ninja its not a nice thing to do. Or say they said something when they did not.
A very small handful of users on here do have an issue with skin colour it does not go unnoticed. As does a small minority of your police force it is called racial profiling and pumping them full of nigger bullets

Anyway back on track with this thread...that reminds me judging by the thread title did boscox start this one?

Whats the latest as this is a very strange case I have never read the likes of it before.

2 year veteran - I swear that was in one of the stories i read.
She called the Police twice
No body cam footage was turned on, even afterwards (why?)
He shot across his partner and out the window as she approached the squad car drivers side in here pyjamas
he may have heard a loud noise or firework

Thats where I am up too and none of it makes any sense.

Could I have been a police officer? Nope. Huwmans can be cruel in many aspects and even I would be tempted to hit a wife/husband/child beater or shoot a pedo etc So I clearly dont have it in me.

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but you don't offer any other answer for why he thought he didn't have to follow the rules.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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but you don't offer any other answer for why he thought he didn't have to follow the rules.

I have but you either do not pay attention or you deliberately ignore what I said. He did indeed follow the rules. The rules here are the same as in any other police involved shooting. If you fear for your life you may fire your weapon. Look at the circumstances. There was a loud noise just as a figure appeared at the driver's window. He was trained to react to a threatening situation and he did. Quite properly and tragically.

Which rules are you talking about? Specifics, please.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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but you don't offer any other answer for why he thought he didn't have to follow the rules.

I have but you either do not pay attention or you deliberately ignore what I said. He did indeed follow the rules. The rules here are the same as in any other police involved shooting. If you fear for your life you may fire your weapon. Look at the circumstances. There was a loud noise just as a figure appeared at the driver's window. He was trained to react to a threatening situation and he did. Quite properly and tragically.

Which rules are you talking about? Specifics, please.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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but you don't offer any other answer for why he thought he didn't have to follow the rules.

I have but you either do not pay attention or you deliberately ignore what I said. He did indeed follow the rules. The rules here are the same as in any other police involved shooting. If you fear for your life you may fire your weapon. Look at the circumstances. There was a loud noise just as a figure appeared at the driver's window. He was trained to react to a threatening situation and he did. Quite properly and tragically.

Which rules are you talking about? Specifics, please.

Do you even comprehend that "in reasonable fear of my life" allows you or me to use a firearm, that is the basic self defense plea, everyone, cop or not has that defense.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Simple, they are required to turn on the body cams when they see any chance of violence, the white cop didn't see any.
Remember he was surprised when this guy started shooting.
Your earlier outburst was to bigoted to understand that if he was hired to fill a quota that was the departments fault, not his.

I read that there are eight Somalians on the force; he was the first. There is no quota system anywhere; the Supreme Court has struck that down. You are full of shit.

There are unofficial quota systems everywhere. Dont be a child.

And you know this how? Don't be so smug.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Just as an exercise, I went back through the thread and checked your 15 or so posts to see if you once expressed some regret or compassion for the victim of this sad incident. Guess what! Not once did I find anything even remotely resembling regret or compassion for the victim. Not once did you pay lip service to her unfortunate demise, or even hint or attempt it.

Unsurprisingly, you did find it in your heart to unearth some empathy for the shooter's police partner:
"His partner may have had his hearing ruined for life." (post #35)
So it cannot be said that your empathy deficit is complete.

You also managed to find ways of criticising diversity hiring, AA programs and critics of police killings. Apparently you hold these people and policies at least partially responsible for this woman's death. One can only conclude that your fondness (read: obsession) with guns and gun rights is far closer to your heart than the death of an obviously innocent woman at the hands of the police (another one of your obsessions) whose culpability you have sought to minimise or exonerate at every opportunity.

I hope the above might alert you to the one eyed way you approach and understand some of the issues raised by this case. Your obsessions are blinding you to the facts and causing you to make poor decisions as well as turning you into an emotional freezer. If you are not careful you are going to end up like Bosco, who is not considered by any sane person to be a role model worth emulating. You can do something about it if you so choose. If you don't ... well, choosing to cling to obsessions is rarely a good healthy choice ...

I think you're letting your emotions get away from you and allowing them to overrule thought process. You apparently also seem to think that leftist policies like Afirmative Action and diversity hiring should overrule hiring the most qualified for a job, which, apparently, in this case got a woman killed. It's too bad that you are so willing to sacrifice the life of a woman on your alter of leftist policies. But, then, if you didn't do that you and all of your friends wouldn't have jobs would you?

What a stupid lie. Tweak has never said such a thing. Who the hell are you to think you can put ideas and beliefs on someone and then attack the straw men by saying she is willing to sacrifice a precious life? Wtf? Where is your sense of decency and fair play? Down the drain with your intellect no doubt. [:'(]

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Thanks for that I know we disagree occasionally :P - well you know me and guns eh! But I am truly toiling even to understand one iota of what happened in this one...i still dont - nothing at all = Zero.

Cops, well a good few, want violence, we all do - we could disagree on that. Even some of the better trained restrained ones will reach saturation point.

I understand the concept of due process.

EG what do you think would happen if I walked in on someone abusing a kid? How about beating a kid? Not feeding a kid etc - the slightly more clear cut examples for me to utilise.

I could never be a cop (policemen/women we call them over here), or social worker :( - but that s just me. I have always been honest about that, my opinions aside

One for Mulder this case?

You shoot across your partner if you, he, both are under direct, or immediate imminent threat. If his aim was a smidgen off, or the car jerked he could have easily blown his partner away - I know you know that aspect.

Stumped on this one to the manner off 100% - wanders off :(

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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but you don't offer any other answer for why he thought he didn't have to follow the rules.

I have but you either do not pay attention or you deliberately ignore what I said. He did indeed follow the rules. The rules here are the same as in any other police involved shooting. If you fear for your life you may fire your weapon. Look at the circumstances. There was a loud noise just as a figure appeared at the driver's window. He was trained to react to a threatening situation and he did. Quite properly and tragically.

Which rules are you talking about? Specifics, please.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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but you don't offer any other answer for why he thought he didn't have to follow the rules.

I have but you either do not pay attention or you deliberately ignore what I said. He did indeed follow the rules. The rules here are the same as in any other police involved shooting. If you fear for your life you may fire your weapon. Look at the circumstances. There was a loud noise just as a figure appeared at the driver's window. He was trained to react to a threatening situation and he did. Quite properly and tragically.

Which rules are you talking about? Specifics, please.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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but you don't offer any other answer for why he thought he didn't have to follow the rules.

I have but you either do not pay attention or you deliberately ignore what I said. He did indeed follow the rules. The rules here are the same as in any other police involved shooting. If you fear for your life you may fire your weapon. Look at the circumstances. There was a loud noise just as a figure appeared at the driver's window. He was trained to react to a threatening situation and he did. Quite properly and tragically.

Which rules are you talking about? Specifics, please.

So you think this shooting was justified?

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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but you don't offer any other answer for why he thought he didn't have to follow the rules.

I have but you either do not pay attention or you deliberately ignore what I said. He did indeed follow the rules. The rules here are the same as in any other police involved shooting. If you fear for your life you may fire your weapon. Look at the circumstances. There was a loud noise just as a figure appeared at the driver's window. He was trained to react to a threatening situation and he did. Quite properly and tragically.

Which rules are you talking about? Specifics, please.

So you think this shooting was justified?

Answer my question, please.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
So do you, truth be told.