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bounty44 -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/1/2017 6:37:10 AM)
at the same time greta, women ARE sex objects, and pence, being a typical man with a sex drive, recognizes that and simply doesn't want to put himself in a situation where those desires can manifest. some of it might be a matter of sexual harassment prevention, but some of it is quite simply deep fidelity to his wife. radical feminists can bitch about that all they want---normal women find it honorable.

Lucylastic -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/1/2017 6:43:18 AM)
normal women are more than sex objects. so are feminists. I wonder if you are still married?

JVoV -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/1/2017 8:19:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic normal women are more than sex objects. so are feminists. I wonder if you are still married? U r teh sex objkt. Shush.

Lucylastic -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/1/2017 8:31:20 AM)
bollocks to that:) that genie wont ever go back in that bottle. Now I have to go and feed my kids and husband(Im such a rebel)

susie -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/1/2017 9:49:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: susie When I was younger I was very flat chested. I worked in a company as the only woman. One day the CEO of the company told me that "you need a sign round your neck saying this side up for rape). Obviously all the men in the office laughed. Should I Have complained? Not being a snowflake shy girl, I turned round and said "well I don't have to worry about you considering the size of your tiny dick"" Everyone laughed including the CEO. After that they all knew I would give as good as I got and I was one of the team. Precisely why all the men who sexually harass women all their lives use the excuse that in the old days, it was perfectly accepted by women. Because women like you accept it. And then they do it to other women who may not be as strong in defending themselves. Basically you have enabled them to bully the weak. (Although, it was the CEO and who would you complain to? That's the problem! He has all the power to disrespect you and it would your job jeopardize if you complain about it, and not his.) What you did was stood up to a bully and gain their respect. But the whole point is, bullying is not acceptable at all. Not every victim can stand up to their bully. Especially if they are worried about their job at stake. No he was not being a bully. You obviously do not understand the word. I did not accept as you claim. I stood up for myself and answered back. I showed them that women are not weak and afraid. I actually gained their respect.

jlf1961 -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/1/2017 10:10:02 AM)
Take all of the recent people accused of sexual harassment out and shoot them.

JVoV -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/1/2017 10:15:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Take all of the recent people accused of sexual harassment out and shoot them. This is America. We have to let it all play out on TV before we shoot anybody. You have no sense of justice.

Lucylastic -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/1/2017 1:09:00 PM)
Brent farenthold repub texas had a settlement paid....84 ,000$

BoscoX -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/1/2017 10:39:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Brent farenthold repub texas had a settlement paid....84 ,000$ It's okay Congress is investigating You can trust big, all-powerful government to always do what is right

Greta75 -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/2/2017 7:59:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: susie No he was not being a bully. You obviously do not understand the word. I did not accept as you claim. I stood up for myself and answered back. I showed them that women are not weak and afraid. I actually gained their respect. Making fun of you being flat chested is not the definition of bullying? You have teenage girls begging NHS to sponsor their breast enlargement because of being bullied and tease for having small breasts. It's called body shaming! You can go tell those teenage girls they are weak to succumb and real strong women tell men they got small dicks in response. Love how you defend Muslims but trivalised real issues. No wonder you support Islam and their female oppressing cult.

JVoV -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/2/2017 8:58:52 PM)
https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sexual_harassment.cfm quote: Sexual Harassment It is unlawful to harass a person (an applicant or employee) because of that person’s sex. Harassment can include “sexual harassment” or unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature. Harassment does not have to be of a sexual nature, however, and can include offensive remarks about a person’s sex. For example, it is illegal to harass a woman by making offensive comments about women in general. Both victim and the harasser can be either a woman or a man, and the victim and harasser can be the same sex. Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted). The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer. That's the current law in the US, Greta. If it was a one time thing, then she likely wouldn't have had a case, or even a serious complaint for HR.

Greta75 -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/2/2017 9:29:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted). Thank you for proving my point that US companies does not have polices in place to prevent sexual harassment of women. The only reason it was one time for this woman is because she fought back and insulted him in return. But just once is bad enough. How many harvey weinstein incidences are only ONCE. Because the women stay away from him and don't want to work with him anymore? But many women do not feel safe enough to do that in return because they might be single mothers or really need the money and fear to lose their jobs.

LadyPact -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/2/2017 9:33:44 PM)
[sm=wall_smiley.gif] This thread is becoming nothing more than a horrid display that NONE of you folks have ever worked HR.

Greta75 -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/3/2017 6:21:13 AM)
I am practically 'HR' of a company I worked for in 11 years. But as it's a small family business with only 50 employees so it's not formal like big MNCs. I took care of all staff welfare and employing and dismissal. And the hierarchy was just the boss and me. And everyone else, below us. But I have to admit that, end of the day, sexual harassment cases are brought up directly to the owner. He makes himself accessible by cellphone to ALL employees no matter how small you are in the company. So whatever happens usually is handled by him directly. As end of the day, he makes the final decision. He is the top. And it usually involves an apology from the guy to the girl with my boss mediating between them. My boss has never dismissed any male for sexual harassment as the males doing it are often also top level in this company. But what happens later is the girl just feel not happy and leaves. Because she wants the guy fired. So it seems like when a woman is feeling uncomfortable. In the end, her option is, suck it up, or quit. When I initially join the company, I also got "sexually harassed", mainly by my boss business partner and co-owner, to wear make up and wear a short skirt. I am usually in pants at work. The guy also always told me I was beautiful and why am I always dressing to hide that. Which I felt was inappropriate, as kindly note, I was married at this time and madly inlove with my husband and this dude was married too, and I know his wife. And this dude has a reputation of sleeping with female employees in the past, "apparently consensually". I complained to my boss, and told my boss that I am tendering my resignation immediately if that guy does not stop harassing me, and he spoke to his business partner about it, and it stopped completely. Whatever my boss said to him, made him leave me alone. And it was a great place to work in for me after that. I can just do my job without stupid remarks from this dude constantly. And the boss I worked for was for me like role model of a male boss towards female employees. Always professional. Never inappropriate, even when he wanted to take me out for dinner one on one, he also got his wife to mention it to me, so I know his wife approved to make me feel more comfortable and there is no misunderstanding. But the problem is, the men he employ sometimes, are not like him. But they are good at their jobs. Just not perfectly behaved towards women. It's like Matt Lauer obviously is good at his job. But horrible towards women. And my boss being very business minded often makes his decision base on, losing who is worst for his business. But For context, both of them were white and not locals from two different western country.

DesideriScuri -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/3/2017 9:41:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri You self-identify every time you post. How many US companies have you worked for? How many times have you gone through orientations for employment at US companies? You know nothing about the policies of US companies, yet you continue to spout your nonsense. I don't have to point out you're wrong. Everyone on here already knows it. Don't look now, but yellow-orange has a bone to pick with you. All the cases that are coming to light now disprove what you say. And they are all from US companies. I don't see how this is self-identifying when many women from the US are saying the same that are speaking up right now. It seems like most of these harassment are in the work place and many American women are worried about losing their jobs IF they dare report the incident. It just shows what most US company policy is towards sexual harassment. They think women are just trouble makers in their company when they bring up sexual harassment. Dude, it's like all over the news now and so many women are speaking up that are US CITIZEN working in US Companies. Don't try to tell me this does not exist and I am making this shit up. You are ridiculous. Especially when OP Topic is precisely about a BIG American company who has been enabling sexual harassment for so many years, making their women feel like their job will be jeopardized IF they dare speak up. Greta, just because they didn't report it then and are only doing so now isn't because there weren't rules against it. They were afraid they either wouldn't get a role, wouldn't get a promotion, or would get fired (depending on which harasser you're talking about). It was an overly male dominated workplace/hierarchy. These things were likely more ignored or glossed over before, because of how powerful the males were. Because as many women have come forward now, I'd say it's going to be quite a bit different going forward. The US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has only been around since 1965. Sexual Harassment is considered a form of Sex Discrimination that was made illegal (by government law) in 1964. So, yeah. You're right. There were no work rules against sexual harassment or discrimination when these acts were going on. [/sarcasm]

DesideriScuri -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/3/2017 9:52:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact [sm=wall_smiley.gif] This thread is becoming nothing more than a horrid display that NONE of you folks have ever worked HR. This is in response to you, but more because of the next comment in the thread. We're all saved because Greta is basically HR at her employer. And that, obviously, means she knows all about HR and anti-discrimination/harassment laws in the US. [8\|]

WhoreMods -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/3/2017 12:00:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact [sm=wall_smiley.gif] This thread is becoming nothing more than a horrid display that NONE of you folks have ever worked HR. This is in response to you, but more because of the next comment in the thread. We're all saved because Greta is basically HR at her employer. And that, obviously, means she knows all about HR and anti-discrimination/harassment laws in the US. [8\|] They have slightly different rules on that in Shanghai: I think harrassment is compulsory over there, and is probably covered by part of the employment contract...

Greta75 -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/3/2017 12:23:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri This is in response to you, but more because of the next comment in the thread. We're all saved because Greta is basically HR at her employer. And that, obviously, means she knows all about HR and anti-discrimination/harassment laws in the US. [8\|] Actually it was JOV who pretty much list out the proof that US pretty much allows sexual harassment at work places. Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, This is the craveat the allows women to be harassed. I mean, simple teasing and offhand comments? This could be anything! So if a male boss says, "Your skirt is not short enough." That's okay, no crime committed. That's awful. Oh gawd and reading further, it gets worst. Federal employees only gets 45 day grace to file a report, while non-federal employees get 180 days! So Federal employees would have less time to find the guts to report the incident.

DesideriScuri -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/3/2017 1:12:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri This is in response to you, but more because of the next comment in the thread. We're all saved because Greta is basically HR at her employer. And that, obviously, means she knows all about HR and anti-discrimination/harassment laws in the US. [8\|] Actually it was JOV who pretty much list out the proof that US pretty much allows sexual harassment at work places. Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, This is the craveat the allows women to be harassed. I mean, simple teasing and offhand comments? This could be anything! So if a male boss says, "Your skirt is not short enough." That's okay, no crime committed. That's awful. Oh gawd and reading further, it gets worst. Federal employees only gets 45 day grace to file a report, while non-federal employees get 180 days! So Federal employees would have less time to find the guts to report the incident. Please stop demonstrating you're ignorant of US discrimination and harassment laws. Please?

Greta75 -> RE: NBC Fires Lauer (12/3/2017 1:30:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Please stop demonstrating you're ignorant of US discrimination and harassment laws. Please? You say it's ignorant, but if you read even more deeply into the FAQ. They talk about the whole procedure where if they don't agree with you, it's serious enough to be harassment, it will be dismiss. It seems to allow for "minor harassment". And the example that I gave will definitely be deemed as minor. But makes it a very uncomfortable and hostile environment for women, to be treated as sex objects and pressured to wear short skirts.

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