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Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 9:14:43 AM   
TheOriginalBitch


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Status: offline 		Is it Me or has everyone else noticed that most of the slave boys that contact them here on collarme.com, their primary goal is about sex?

Example: Whip my ball's and make me lick you clean faster.......sounds like self gratification to Me.

This lifestyle is not about sex to me, it is about 24/7 service, devotion, respect and honor and in return I provide structure, acceptance, respect, honor and sometimes with the right slave and in time love.

It is about TPE, NOT SEX!

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 9:19:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		The internet is often a place of fantasy. I know plenty of slave boys, girls and bois who are dedicated to service...but I have met them all real time, not through the internet. Still, that doesn't mean that I don't have a profile on here in hopes of finding a few diamonds!

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 9:23:55 AM   
TheOriginalBitch


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Status: offline 		Yes, I am very envolved in the local community. I am here to meet new people, I am quickly finding out that there are alot of CZ's and very few Diamonds....ok maybe a few Diamonds in the rough who will need alot of polishing before they can shine.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 10:04:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheOriginalBitch

Is it Me or has everyone else noticed that most of the slave boys that contact them here on collarme.com, their primary goal is about sex?

Example: Whip my ball's and make me lick you clean faster.......sounds like self gratification to Me.

This lifestyle is not about sex to me, it is about 24/7 service, devotion, respect and honor and in return I provide structure, acceptance, respect, honor and sometimes with the right slave and in time love.

It is about TPE, NOT SEX!

Mistress
"The Original Bitch"

And here I thought the lifestyle was about what it is for YOU and the person involved with you.  It might be sex for some.  It might be service for some.  It might be none of that for someone else.  Who are we to judge?  Just pass them over and be done with it.  Not everyone in the world is going to match what your ideal is.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 10:31:24 AM   
TheOriginalBitch


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Status: offline 		I would not want everyone to match what My ideas are, the world would be pretty boring if that was the case.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 10:38:23 AM   
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Is it Me or has everyone else noticed that most of the slave boys that contact them here on collarme.com, their primary goal is about sex?


Your first mistake is been willing to bestow the label 'slave'  (or sub) ... try ...has everyone else noticed that most of the men that contact them here on collarme.com, their primary goal is about sex? ... and yes, I have noticed this.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 10:44:32 AM   
thetammyjo


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Status: offline 		I have noticed that many people (male and female) use the word slave to mean something quite different than I do.

BDSM and all its component parts is about different things for different people:
For some it is really only about sex.
For others it is mostly about sex.
For others sex is a big part of things.
For others sex is a minor part.
And for some sex isn't a part at all.

That's why I insist on talking to people for while and have a formal training process. My life is too busy to spend on everyone so I invest the time early on instead of getting into relationships and trying them out without some guidelines and formality.

I know what it is about for me and what I'm looking for. I don't except anyone other than the man or woman who joins my household to have my definitions beyond being consensual, being informed, and doing it for positive reasons.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 11:09:33 AM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: TheOriginalBitch

I would not want everyone to match what My ideas are, the world would be pretty boring if that was the case.

OK, so why the rant about how it's all about TPE and not sex.  For some it IS about sex....and that's not wrong.  It's simply wrong for you.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 11:11:46 AM   
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Is it Me or has everyone else noticed that most of the slave boys that contact them here on collarme.com, their primary goal is about sex?


Think of most males you know....how many are motivated by sex, sexual thoughts, the idea of sex, the notion of sex... How often is sexual virility and strength equated to success in advertising and society in general.  So that We as Dominas, are often approached by males who are driven by the power of sex isn't all that surprising.  That We are confronted with that so often isn't really the issue..it's learning how to sift through all those that have ONLY that as the motivator for submission is the bigger picture. There are males out there who understand and are driven by other ways they can pleasure a Woman...intelligent conversation, sharp wit, obedience, attentiveness to needs that occur above the waistline.  Discouraging-and at times distasteful as it can be-it is worth the effort in the end to find someone who's ideas and concepts of service and servitude match Your Own.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 11:16:49 AM   
SaphireLynn


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Status: offline 		every relationship is different... I have noticed some Dom/me seek sex slaves and such... also some seek no sex in the relationship... so no 2 relationship is the same... just like no 2 Owners are the same... so to each his own...

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 12:24:51 PM   
Nuke718


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Status: offline 		While not claiming to be a slave, I do sub a bit.  I understand what service is, I can give you the dictionary definition if you like, as well as the accepted lifestyle definition.

But I am not a service sub/slave/bottom.  It's just not me.  The lifestyle isn't about service to me.  That isn't to say that there is no service in some of my lifestyle relationships over the years, just taht it is not my sole focus.  Just like I have had relationships both with and without sex, I have had them with and without service.  For the record tho, the ones with service have almost always included sex (it's a trade off I suppose, at least for me LoL).

Anyway, I would like to agree with those saying you will have a better chance of meeting service oriented folks IRL.  Lets face it the anonymity of the Internet makes it too easy to try for quick fantasy fulfillment.  The people looking to get off waaaay outnumber the folks looking for a non sexual relationship.  That's not to say you won't find the sub/slave you want online tho.

Good luck!

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 1:17:57 PM   
TheOriginalBitch


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

quote:

Is it Me or has everyone else noticed that most of the slave boys that contact them here on collarme.com, their primary goal is about sex?


Your first mistake is been willing to bestow the label 'slave'  (or sub) ... try ...has everyone else noticed that most of the men that contact them here on collarme.com, their primary goal is about sex? ... and yes, I have noticed this.


Makes Note To Myself........Change To Most men.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 1:21:29 PM   
TheOriginalBitch


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Status: offline 		True society is driven by sex, look at the ad for AXE

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< Message edited by TheOriginalBitch -- 8/8/2006 1:22:28 PM >

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 1:23:17 PM   
Jasmyn


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Status: offline 		The good news though...behind some of them approaches are some very slavish boys.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 1:29:10 PM   
littlesarbonn


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Status: offline 		Whenever I've approached someone it's had nothing to do with sex, but about either submission, service and/or slavery. The problem is that I seem to be traveling up a raging river trying to speak up and be heard over the screaming voices of those who see bdsm as another term for "easy sex", so that no matter how sincere, no matter how much experience, and no matter how much I pursue, even getting the time of day is practically impossible. So the screamers win out because they're playing the old "ask enough women to have sex with you and eventually one will say yes" game. When two hundred of those men are rushing at any available woman (and each one that exists, multiplying like the hair commercial of "and she told two friends, and so on and so on....), the few of us who gently pursue maybe one or two women in a few month period after having done our homework and figuring out we're right for each other, get blown away in the wind.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 2:14:25 PM   
Aimtoplease101


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Status: offline 		"Most" is the key word there.  CM is not some sort of exclusive membership site, so it's going to draw a lot of users, of all orientations, who are "mostly" looking for sex.  I think the same could be said of many venues, cyber and real, in which people interact.

Use that message delete button liberally if that's not what you're looking for, but keep your eyes open for people who may be compatible with you.

Regards, ATP

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 2:38:38 PM   
mp072004


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Status: offline 		I think the rhetoric of service is overused, which may contribute to the OP's frustration--truth in advertising and all that. I have no quarrel with men who want sexual elements in their BDSM relationships. I have no quarrel with men who would specify certain activities they want to do when bottoming. It's not a terribly submissive or service-oriented behavior, but as long as it's not being presented as such, it doesn't bug me at all.

However, I do object to the word games that go on when submissive-identified men try to tell me what they want to do. If you want to perform cunnilingus at my direction, please say so. Please do not call it serving. It's vague for starters, and inadequate if the actual activity is important. And when I tell you that I don't want to receive cunnilingus, it is exceedingly bad form to insist that you have a deep-seated need to serve me and make me happy and that I must allow you to stick your tongue in my vulva, even though I don't want you to, so that I may be served and pleased.

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 2:42:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheOriginalBitch

Is it Me or has everyone else noticed that most of the slave boys that contact them here on collarme.com, their primary goal is about sex?

Example: Whip my ball's and make me lick you clean faster.......sounds like self gratification to Me.

This lifestyle is not about sex to me, it is about 24/7 service, devotion, respect and honor and in return I provide structure, acceptance, respect, honor and sometimes with the right slave and in time love.

It is about TPE, NOT SEX!

Mistress
"The Original Bitch"


not sure if You wanted any input from submissives, Ma'am...but i totally agree with what You've said. i've said it over and over that it's not about sex...i would love to experience Power Exchange sometime


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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 2:46:16 PM   
Jasmyn


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And when I tell you that I don't want to receive cunnilingus, it is exceedingly bad form to insist that you have a deep-seated need to serve me and make me happy and that I must allow you to stick your tongue in my vulva, even though I don't want you to, so that I may be served and pleased.
 
lmao!  a truer word has never been spoken ... thanks for the morning chuckle ...

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RE: Do slave boys truly understand what service is? - 8/8/2006 6:13:46 PM   
golfguy


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Status: offline 		i , as a novice sub have been learning a lot from this forum. there is a definite array of wants and needs of all both sub and domme.! can see why i am having trouble finding a domme.there is soooo much diversity in all. Sex? not my desire. to serve a domme as she wishes is my true goal. of course i wont say i will do anything but i am open to discussion as there is sooooo much to consider.Sex is not my desire. to serve,truly serve is/.

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