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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 12:26:37 PM   
WhipTheHip


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Status: offline 		Dear Twice Happy,
 
    You contradict yourself.  First you write:  "there are too damned many
guys out there who are looking for the fantasy, high heeled boots,
black leather corset, keep me in a cage and whip me until I bleed
oh Goddess of sex and pain . . . While I realize there are some Dommes
out there who are happy to simply be used to fulfill someone's fantasy
life, it is not what any Domme I have ever known is seeking in a male
subbie,"  and "we [are] not looking for a target with a penis attached."

     Then you write:  "If you're only looking to be used as a real live sex
toy or a faceless target for a whip say so at the start. There are many
willing to accommodate you. "
 
This is really an old story.  Males first for the most part look for a
female able to satisfy their sexual needs, then fall in love with
that female.  While females first look for a male that is able to
fulfill their emotional needs, then desire to meet that male's
sexual needs.
 
Can you imagine a male Dom complaining that too many females
on the Internet write them not wanting a personal relationship, just
wanting to be whipped, used as a sex toy, then discarded??? 
Female Dommes get what most male Doms only wish they could
get, tons of subs just wanting to be used for sadistic pleasure.
 
Most males into bdsm are masochists, not true submissives. 
They are mainly interested in finding a female sadist who will
whip and torture them purely for her sadistic pleasure.    Pro
Dommes for the most part do it for the money.  That is all most
Pro Dommes care about.   Can you imagine a female sub
have to pay to be treated like a sex toy, or to be whipped?

The guys who write you are seeking to get their sexual needs met.
They don't know there are no female tops just looking for a body
with a penis to inflict pain on.  Just like many female subs crave
being objectified, many male subs crave being objectified. 
 
Women complain men don't want them for their mind, only
their bodies.  Men complain that women don't want them for
their bodies, only for their mind.
 
Can you imagine a female sub complaining, "I've searched
and searched on the Internet but I just can't seem to find a
one male willing to tie me up; whip, torture and fuck me;
use me, then discard me?" 
 
Male tops would be lucky to find a female bottom that offer
what male masochists offer.
 
I know I am going to get shot and hung for saying this, but
it is my belief that most Dommes have a bitchy personality,
have an over-inflated view of themselves, have a hormonal
imbalance that causes them to behave like they have
constant PMS, are self-centered, and selfish.    These same
qualities attract masochistic males, but few masochistic
males can put up with such a female for very long.  
 
So most female Dommes have a hard time attracting
male bottoms for a long term relationship.  In any event,
most Dommes are not really looking for male buttoms, but
for submissive males they can control and emotionally
abuse.  Some guys will do anything to get their bdsm
fix, they will even put up with a totally, self-centered
female.
 
I suspect most female Dommes really have zero interest
in bdsm.  I suspect most Dommes are just into D/s, and
most Pro Dommes just do it for the money.  I believe this
is true because I am friends with the female owner of a
very large Dominatrix business, and once had my own
Dominatrix business.   Because I am a switch.  And
because I have talked to a lot of Dommes. 
 
With most Dommes it is all about, "What can you do
for me?"  And in most cases the answer is, "Never
enough."  Doms with the attitude of Dommes, don't
get subs or bottoms. 
 
There may be some Doms analgous to the female
Dommes I just described.    But since the scene has ten
males to every female, female bottoms don't have to
compromise as much as much as male bottoms have
to compromise.
 
So you should forgive male masochists for thinking there
are female sadists just looking for a male bottom to use.
Most male sadists would be thrilled to find female bottoms
to use.  Essentially what you have is a ton of horny,
desperate, sexually frustrated males who can't their
sexual needs met, and a ton of females ho can't get
their emotional needs met.
 
Then there are those just looking for a non-sexual
slave to use without having to give back much of
anything.  And there are those just looking for someone
they can completely control with giving much back
much in return.
 
Twice Happy, you say male masochists "use" Dommes
because they just want Dommes to fulfill their sexual
fantasy.  Most male sadists and tops would love to
fullfil the fantasy of any female masochists.
 
Can you imagine a Dom, top, or sadist complaining
that some female masochist "used" him, because she
just wanted him to tie her up, whip her, torture her,
and use her as a sex toy?
 
I just want to make clear that what I write comes
from my personal experience, and what I have
heard from others.  Reality may be quite different.
I keep an open mind and am always ready to
modify my beliefs based on new information.
 
I do not know any of the Dommes or Doms that
particpate here.  They may be completely different
than those I have encountered myself, and those
I have heard about.   In fact, all participants here
seem to be nicer, friendlier, more patient,
and more well-rounded than all other experiences
I have had with people into the scene. 

So, if you are a Domme here who doesn't fit
my description, I apologize.  I didn't mean
to include you.  There are many exceptions
to every rule.  And I can't even be certain there
is a rule.  All I can do is share my personal
observations which may well be skewed. 

-Michael 

PS.  I know "female Domme" is redundant.


 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 





< Message edited by WhipTheHip -- 8/18/2006 12:47:59 PM >

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 12:32:21 PM   
twicehappy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

Until then if Jewel wants to do some CBT why don't the three of you take a ride to TN I can think of a number of boys that would be happy to play.


Thanks for the invite, you would be welcome to visit to. But the truth is we really do practice poly fidelity so must wait until her Unicorn appears. Play partners we have volunteers for if that was all it took, the CBT was an inside joke, i once offered to do just that to make her happy.

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 12:46:57 PM   
LeatherBentOne


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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 12:50:11 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		i'll let ya borrow my very dusty strap-on and nifty lil latex flogger
i dont use them anymore

and your right

the woman is interchangable
it is the whip they want

very few are submissive out of the bedroom

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 1:00:23 PM   
twicehappy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

    You contradict yourself.  First you write: While I realize there are some Dommesout there who are happy to simply be used to fulfill someone's fantasy life, it is not what any Domme I have ever known is seeking in a male
subbie,"  and "we [are] not looking for a target with a penis attached."

     Then you write:  "If you're only looking to be used as a real live sex
toy or a faceless target for a whip say so at the start. There are many
willing to accommodate you. "


I think most of the others posters read it correctly but if you want an explanation read it with this added" is seeking in a male subbie for a RLRT 24/7 realtionship"

quote:

Most males into bdsm are masochists, not true submissives. 
They are mainly interested in finding a female sadist who will
whip and torture them purely for her sadistic pleasure. 


I do not have an issue with that, i have an issue with those who state they are looking for a relationship if what they are looking for is a fuck buddy.

quote:

They don't know there are no female tops just looking for a body
with a penis to inflict pain on.  


Where is LA when i need her talents?
 
There is no way they cannot know for several reasons. The first being that if they read the boards  they  have read a hundred threads on this subject(this is where i need our thread puller). The second is they would simply write their profile to the effect that they wanted to be a toy, not that they are looking for a relationship. The third being that they would not pull their profiles that stated they were looking for a relationship as soon as they got their jollys off so they could wait for the next domme looking for a relationship. The fourth being as i stated i am very explicit in stating we are looking for a family member not a fuck toy.
 
quote:

I know I am going to get shot and hung for saying this, but
it is my belief that most Dommes have a bitchy personality,
have an over-inflated view of themselves, have a hormonal
imbalance that causes them to behave like they have
constant PMS, are self-centered, and selfish.    These same
qualities attract masochistic males, but few masochistic
males can put up with such a female for very long.  

I suspect most female Dommes really have zero interest
in bdsm

With most Dommes it is all about, "What can you do
for me?"  And in most cases the answer is, "Never
enough." 


Can i copy and paste these comments on a new thread in the Ask a Mistress forum?
 
quote:

So you should forgive male masochists for thinking there
are female sadists just looking for a male bottom to use.


Again, i have no issue with those that feel this way, only the fact that the are not honest about it, that they lie instead.
 
Those who answered me and stated they were only looking for sex i sent best wishes, offers of friendship and thanked for their honesty.


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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 1:20:30 PM   
gooddogbenji


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Status: offline 		Twice,

A few items:

- I have a reputation to uphold here on CM.  I am NOT real, true, honest, nice, or anything of that sort.  I am a certified, pants pissing mutt with a shitty attitude.  Got it?

- I agree with most of the rest of your post.

- See here - http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=534831 - for reasons for not being honest in your profile.  We tore that guy a new asshole, but you could tell he loved having another place to get fucked. 

People looking for fuckbuddies seem to get mobbed on this forum, despite our claims to the opposite.  We want to accept them for who they are, but somehow, we always end up telling them to add more about themselves, not to be just about the humpy humpy etc.

Granted, someone looking for a quick fantasy fix is best off paying for it, but I can't blame them for lying in their profile to avoid the flack.

Besides, throw enough shit against a wall, and something will stick.  That goes for them and you.

Yours,


benji

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 1:32:18 PM   
yourMissTress


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quote:

I know I am going to get shot and hung for saying this, but
it is my belief that most Dommes have a bitchy personality,
have an over-inflated view of themselves, have a hormonal
imbalance that causes them to behave like they have
constant PMS, are self-centered, and selfish.    These same
qualities attract masochistic males, but few masochistic
males can put up with such a female for very long.  
 
So most female Dommes have a hard time attracting
male bottoms for a long term relationship.  In any event,
most Dommes are not really looking for male buttoms, but
for submissive males they can control and emotionally
abuse.  Some guys will do anything to get their bdsm
fix, they will even put up with a totally, self-centered
female.

I suspect most female Dommes really have zero interest
in bdsm.  I suspect most Dommes are just into D/s, and
most Pro Dommes just do it for the money.  I believe this
is true because I am friends with the female owner of a
very large Dominatrix business, and once had my own
Dominatrix business.   Because I am a switch.  And
because I have talked to a lot of Dommes. 
 
With most Dommes it is all about, "What can you do
for me?"  And in most cases the answer is, "Never
enough."  Doms with the attitude of Dommes, don't
get subs or bottoms. 

snip
quote:

I just want to make clear that what I write comes
from my personal experience, and what I have
heard from others.  Reality may be quite different.
I keep an open mind and am always ready to
modify my beliefs based on new information.

 
So, without being too "bitchy" which is it?  Is this from your personal experience of talking to "a lot of Dommes" or is it based on reality which you admit "may be quite different"?  How many is a lot?  Did it ever occur to you that the employees of that Dominatrix business you owned may have been your employees because they were of the same mindset as you?
 
I personally know many Dommes, a few of whom have the attitude that you speak of.  Just a few.  I know a few women, as well as a few men, who are self-centered assholes.  They are vanilla and kinky alike. 
 
So, you are a switch?  Meaning that you self identify as both Dominant and submissive?  To whom are you submissive?  A bitchy woman who is only in it to control you, take whatever they can get from you, and has no interest in BDSM, a woman you obviously have no respect for?  Who are your Dominant counterparts in the lifestyle?  Bitchy women that you have absolutely no respect for? 
 
I have met a few people in the lifestyle over the last 15 years.  Fortunately I don't allow one or two or a thousand bad apples to label an entire group of people, or else I would now think that all male switches were vapid, mealy mouthed, twits.
 
 


 

< Message edited by yourMissTress -- 8/18/2006 1:35:57 PM >

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 1:54:53 PM   
cynthiamarie


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quote:

Can i copy and paste these comments on a new thread in the Ask a Mistress forum?
I've never been to a castration scene before.
 
quote:

I suspect most female Dommes really have zero interest in bdsm.

I don't need a fuckbuddy, nor does a vanilla relationship attract me.  Flogging, mummification, restraints, CBT, etc. are all a bottom gets from me, and yes, I enjoy it. 
 
Searching for my unicorn is different...my emotional needs must be met and there must be some mutual love and/or adoration going on. 
 
quote:

Then there are those just looking for a non-sexual slave to use without having to give back much of anything.  And there are those just looking for someone they can completely control with giving much back much in return.
It seems that you haven't seen Dommes putting so much into submissives under their care...many of us keep their lives in balance, heal past scars, help them grow, and invest a lot of feelings and time.
 
quote:

This is really an old story.  Males first for the most part look for a female able to satisfy their sexual needs, then fall in love with that female.  While females first look for a male that is able to fulfill their emotional needs, then desire to meet that male's sexual needs.
Then if I were a male who wanted sex more than anything else, I'd learn how to satisfy women's emotional needs.  (Hands over a copy of Light Her Fire.)  Women generally spend a lot of time learning about how to fulfil a male's sexual needs...I don't see a bunch of men's magazines suggesting ways to be more pleasing to their partner. 
 
Nothing justifies deceit.  Ones who falsely advertise themselves deserve to be left alone...wanking off in solitude. 
 
In their own hands...is the most important relationship in their lives. 

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 2:40:13 PM   
Leonardo


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Status: offline 		It is not just the male subs as I have run across many  purported  female subs which it this post as well.

< Message edited by Leonardo -- 8/18/2006 2:41:04 PM >

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 6:18:08 PM   
twicehappy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

People looking for fuckbuddies seem to get mobbed on this forum, despite our claims to the opposite.  We want to accept them for who they are, but somehow, we always end up telling them to add more about themselves, not to be just about the humpy humpy etc.


Unfortunately this is too often true. And it should not be. Personally when i received an email stating that the person was only looking for a fuck buddy i thanked them for their,  wished them well and offered to be friends.

FOR THE RECORD!!!!

BENJI IS A LEG HUMPING, SHOE CHEWING, PIDDLE IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR CARPET CERTIFIABLE BAD PUP!

Better now benji?

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 6:19:54 PM   
twicehappy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cynthiamarie

quote:

Can i copy and paste these comments on a new thread in the Ask a Mistress forum?
I've never been to a castration scene before.


ROFLMMFAO.......

quote:

Nothing justifies deceit.  Ones who falsely advertise themselves deserve to be left alone...wanking off in solitude. 
 
In their own hands...is the most important relationship in their lives. 


I COULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS BETTER MYSELF!

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 6:20:08 PM   
gooddogbenji


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Yours,


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Excuse me. - 8/18/2006 7:41:25 PM   
WhipTheHip


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Status: offline 		Hi Twice Happy,
 
> I think most of the others posters read it correctly
> but if you want an explanation read it with this
> added" is seeking in a male subbie for a RLRT
> 24/7 realtionship"

I read your words correctly.    Now just subsitute
"Dom" for "Dommes," and "male" for "female" in
your post and see how silly it sounds.  Some
males subs may be interested in a 24/7 relationship,
some not.  But they figure if you are really an
honest-to-goodness top, you would enjoy topping
them anyway.  They figure, your fantasy and their
fantasy are one in the same.    They don't grasp
the idea that you are a sadistic bitch, but don't
really have an interest in whipping any male.  For
the most part, most masochists male or female
are just looking for a member of the opposite
sex with a whip. If that person also happens to
be compatible with them, then they might consider
a real life 24/7 relationship.  But first they are
looking  for a sadist from the opposite sex
who shares their fantasy.   In the case of females,
there are male Doms who share their fantasy.
In the case of males, I don't think there are
females who share their fantasy, at least not
in the scene.  There are plenty of dominant
females, but there are not many sadistic females.
 
>> Most males into bdsm are masochists, not true submissives. 
>> They are mainly interested in finding a female sadist who will
>> whip and torture them purely for her sadistic pleasure. 
>
> I do not have an issue with that, i have an issue with those
> who state they are looking for a relationship if what they are
> looking for is a fuck buddy.

Male masochists are not looking for "fuck buddies." Is that what
you think a "bottom" is, a "fuck buddy"?  Masochists are primarily
not looking for sex, and don't expect sex.  I don't see how you
can be a Domme, if you don't know the difference between "bdsm"
and sexual intercourse.  You lost me.  When a female sub is
looking for a "top" to scene with, do you think she is looking for
a "fuck buddy"?   Male masochists are looking for the exact
same thing female subs look for, when they want a sexual
sadist to "top" them.  Most male sexual sadists will be only
too happy to top any female body.  What male sexual sadists
want is a body of the opposite sex to play with for their sadistic
pleasure.  They want any female body to flog, whip, and torture.
They want a body to objectify.  To the best of my knowlege
there are no (or very few) female Dommes who are true sexual
sadists, who just want a male body to tie-up and flog. 
 
> There is no way they cannot know for several reasons.
 
Never underestimate human ignorance; especially never
underestimate male ignorance; and especially, especially 
never underestimate male ignorance of the female psyche.
Hope springs eternal.  No matter what you write, guys
can't get it through their thick skulls, that you don't want
to whip and torture them.  They just can't imagine such
a thing.  Or they figure somehow they will be able to meet
your needs.  Or they are just blinded by their desire.  Or
maybe they are just so desperate, so sexually frustrated,
and so horny that they will do just about anything to get
their bdsm fix.  Never stand between a drug and an addict.
What you are holding is herion.  Now imagine there is
a whole population of herion addicts out there desperate
for a fix.  Do you really expect a herion addict to be
truthful with you?  Herion addicts are going to say anything
and everything to get their fix. 
 
> Can i copy and paste these comments on a new
> thread in the Ask a Mistress forum?

You can if you want, but I wish you wouldn't.  That
would be like taking a water hose to a hive of killer
bees.  I'm masochistic, but not that masochistic.
 
You know people are people.  I don't want to put
anyone on the defensive here.  Dommes don't have
to explain themselves to me or to anyone else. They
have their following, and I wish them all the best.  I
am the last person in the world to be judging anyone.
Let me state for record that I am sure, the Dommes
here are nothing like those I described..

> Again, i have no issue with those that feel this
> way, only the fact that the are not honest about
> it, that they lie instead.  Those who answered
> me and stated they were only looking for sex i
> sent best wishes, offers of friendship and thanked
> for their honesty.
 
You seem to be missing something.  Bdsm and sex
are not the same thing.  You can have bdsm scenes
with no sex.  So what you are saying is if the guy
is only interested in bdsm, you sent them best
wishes and offers of friendship.  And this helps them
how?   That is like telling a herion addict who needs
a fix, you send them your best wishes, you offer
your friendship, and you thank them for their honesty.
I don't know about you, you sound very naive.  You
don't seem like you are able to put yourself in the
place of others very well. 
 
Best regards,
Michael

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/18/2006 7:50:02 PM   
mistoferin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
Male masochists are not looking for "fuck buddies." Is that what
you think a "bottom" is, a "fuck buddy"?  Masochists are primarily
not looking for sex, and don't expect sex.  I don't see how you
can be a Domme, if you don't know the difference between "bdsm"
and sexual intercourse.  You lost me. 


Apparently she lost you a long time ago if you think she's a Domme. But I think you would know that if you had read all of her post.

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 8:10:16 PM   
WhipTheHip


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Status: offline 		> Nothing justifies deceit.  Ones who falsely advertise themselves 
> deserve to be left alone...wanking off in solitude. 
 
My, my how self-righteous and judgmental!  I know an attorney
who asks opposing witnesses on the stand, if they ever lie. 
Without fail the witness replies that they always tell the truth.
The attorney looks at jury, shakes his head back and forth and
says, well it looks like I just caught this witness in their first lie.
Anyone who tells you they don't lie is a big fat liar.  And the
sadest liars are those who lie to themselves, and refuse to
admit they ever tell a lie. 
 
"Nothing justifies deceit"?????  Not even lying to a terrorist
to get them to admit where they planted a bomb?  Not even
to get out of a traffic ticket?  Not even to get on a flight so
as not to miss an opportunity of a lifetime?  Not even to
protect a loved?   Not even to preserve your job?  You've
never told your boss a lie?  You never told a customer a
lie? Give me a fucking break!  You just pegged my
hypocrsiy meter.  
 
> Then if I were a male who wanted sex more than anything
> else, I'd learn how to satisfy women's emotional needs
 
So it is okay for a female to want sex without strings,
it is okay for a female masochist to want a male to top
her without sex, but if a male is looking for the same
thing, it is wrong, and you get all huffy about it?  Can
you spell    s . . . e . . . x . . . i . . . s . . . t  ?
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 9:48:59 PM   
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> So, without being too "bitchy" which is it?  Is this from your personal
> experience of talking to "a lot of Dommes" or is it based on reality
> which you admit "may be quite different"? 

It is based on talking to a female friend of mine who owns a big business
that employs dommes.  It is based on running my own dominatrix business.
It is based on talking to a lot of male subs.  It is based on talking to a
lot of females. 

> How many is a lot? 

How high is high? 

> Did it ever occur to you that the employees of that Dominatrix
> business you owned may have been your employees because
> they were of the same mindset as you?

Huh?  What is my mindset?  How would perspective employees
know my mindset?  My mindset is completely different than the
Dommes I employed.  Money doesn't motivate me.  And I am
not self-centered.

> I know a few women, as well as a few men, who are
> self-centered assholes.  They are vanilla and kinky alike. 


We agree here.   But there are certain naturally super
dominant, overbearing people who figure-out, the best
place for them to find a partner is in D/s scene.  And
they are probably right.   A lot of subs get-off on guys
with super dominant personalities.  Personally, I find
super-dominant people obnoxious, whether they are
male or female. 

> So, you are a switch?  Meaning that you self identify
> as both Dominant and submissive? 

No.  I am submissive to no one.  The more dominant
a person tries to be with me, the more dominant I
become.  I am not easily intimidated.   I am normally
a real low key kind of guy, so toughs at the hotel
I managed always thought they could push me
around.  Females living at the hotel a short time
didn't think I was the type to stand up to these
guys.  They always looked at me different when
I had to throw them out of the hotel, and didn't
back down.  Bikers, pimps, drug dealers, and
psychopaths, I stood up to all of them.

Nornmally, though, I am just mildly dominant,
buit have a particularly sweet spot for female
submissives.  Submissive females melt me.

When I say I am a switch that means I am both
a sexual sadist, and a sexual masochist, though
I much prefer to top.  I am much more into
bdsm than I am into D/s.

> A bitchy woman who is only in it to control you,
> take whatever they can get from you, and has
> no interest in BDSM, a woman you obviously
> have no respect for? 

I respect people who are humble, intelligent, soft
and kind-hearted.  My respect goes down for people
the less they are humble, soft, intelligent, and kind-
hearted.  Obviously, I don't mix well with a lot of
people in the scene.

> Who are your Dominant counterparts in the lifestyle? 

None.

> Bitchy women that you have absolutely no respect for?

I might consider letting one top me.   Why would a bitchy
woman who I didn't have any respect for want to top
me?   If I have to answer that question, you're not
really a sexual sadist. 

> I have met a few people in the lifestyle over the
> last 15 years.  Fortunately I don't allow one or two
> or a thousand bad apples to label an entire group
> of people

You make a mistake.  I don't consider bitchy women,
or testy Doms to be bad apples.  They are much more
in demand than I am.  I just don't have an affinity
towards them.  I like people who are low key and
easy going.  I don't have an affinity to people who
are aggressive, pushy and irritable. That is my prerogative. 
In the meantime, I try to get along with everyone.

You would not make a good insurance statistician,
marketing agent, pollster, quality control engineer
or political strategist.  Suppose there is a group of
one-hundred thousand people in a room, and you
can't see any of them.  Now, lets say you randomly
meet 30 of those people, and every one you meet
is black.  The mathematical odds of just about
every one in that room being black is very high. 
In other words form a random sample of just thirty
people taken from a large population, you can
know with a relatively high degree of certainty
a lot of information about the entire group.
There is no certainty in this world, only
probability.  I don't label any group of people.
But I do make probable generalizations based
on my personal knowledge of random sample populations.   
> or else I would now think that all male switches
> were vapid, mealy mouthed, twits.
 
But we are!! 
 
"Vapid" my, my, now that's a pretty big word for
a Domme to be using, don't you think? 
 
<tongue planted in cheek>
 
Best wishes,
Michael   

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/18/2006 11:25:41 PM   
FelinePersuasion


Posts: 4792
Joined: 11/20/2004
Status: offline 		Nice sentiment, but nobody it was ment for it is ever going to see it.

those guys you mention and run into aren't on the boards aren't reading your words theirover on the personals side dick in hand mouse in other.

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 5:00:07 AM   
twicehappy


Posts: 2706
Joined: 2/5/2006
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip


I read your words correctly.    Now just subsitute
"Dom" for "Dommes," and "male" for "female" in
your post and see how silly it sounds.  


It does not sound silly at all. I am beginning to think you are projecting your "i just want to play "attitude onto every body, doms included.

Granted there are large quantities of males looking to get laid on both sides of the kneel but there are also quite a few doms looking for that relationship. I personally know many who must get to know the subbie female before they will scene with her.

quote:

For
the most part, most masochists male or female
are just looking for a member of the opposite
sex with a whip.


Ok now i want to post this one in ask a submissive, you could not be more wrong!

quote:

   "fuck buddy"? 


Since even just the strictly scening part of bdsm is still a form of gratification fuck buddy was meant to include play partner. Again i think most posters understood that. Even if they did not since most of these guys do expect sexual relief at some point,even if it is only by milking, the term stands. 

quote:

I don't see how you
can be a Domme, if you don't know the difference between "bdsm"
and sexual intercourse.


You obviously did not read the entire OP.

quote:

> Can i copy and paste these comments on a new
> thread in the Ask a Mistress forum?

You can if you want, but I wish you wouldn't.  That
would be like taking a water hose to a hive of killer
bees. 


I am the last person in the world to be judging anyone.
Let me state for record that I am sure, the Dommes
here are nothing like those I described..


Taking back all the rude and ignorant things you said yesterday, maybe you should have thought about it before you put you foot in your mouth. I know a lot of Dommes, i know a lot of cm Dommes and i can honestly say not one of them fits the garbage you were spewing yesterday.

quote:

You seem to be missing something.  Bdsm and sex
are not the same thing.  You can have bdsm scenes
with no sex.


I am missing nothing and with 31 years experience (i started very young) i doubt there is much you could tell me i do not already know.

It sounds to me like once again you are defending or making excuses for these guys boorish behavior when there is none.

"My dick made me do it" or" My masochistic male overdrive made me do it"(since you apparently like to nitpick semantics) is NOT an excuse.

< Message edited by twicehappy -- 8/19/2006 5:54:35 AM >

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/19/2006 5:14:46 AM   
twicehappy


Posts: 2706
Joined: 2/5/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

Anyone who tells you they don't lie is a big fat liar.  And the
sadest liars are those who lie to themselves, and refuse to
admit they ever tell a lie. 

There are those whose upbringing or personal moral code does not allow them to lie ever.
 
I think once again you are projecting your values onto others.
  "Nothing justifies deceit"?????  Not even lying to a terrorist
to get them to admit where they planted a bomb?  Not even
to get out of a traffic ticket?  Not even to get on a flight so
as not to miss an opportunity of a lifetime?  Not even to
protect a loved?   Not even to preserve your job?  You've
never told your boss a lie?  You never told a customer a
lie? Give me a fucking break!  You just pegged my
hypocrsiy meter.    
The virtue of Honor requires one to adhere to their oaths and do the right thing, even if it will ultimately hurt others or oneself in the process.

 
These are my codes and i live by them.

Honesty insists that one tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth to yourself, your gods and your people.
 
You need to quit projecting the inner workings and failings of your own being onto the beings of others. Just because this is how you view the world does not mean your path is tha same that others follow.



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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 5:24:54 AM   
WhipTheHip


Posts: 1004
Joined: 7/31/2006
Status: offline 		Hi there,
 
> Granted there are large quantities of males looking to get laid on both sides

Once again, you incorrectly equate bdsm with sexual intercourse.

>> For the most part, most masochists male or female are
>> just looking for a member of the opposite sex with a whip.
>
> Ok now i want to post this one in ask a submissive, you
> could not be more wrong!

Once again you incorrectly equate masochist with submissive.
 
> Taking back all the rude and ignorant things you said yesterday
 
I never took back any of the things I said.
 
> Since even just the strictly scening part of bdsm is still a form of gratification
> fuck buddy was meant to include play partner. Again i think most posters
> understood that.

I don't care what you claim.  Anyone who can make this statement doesn't
understand a thing about bdsm.  I don't think you will find a single person
in this forum who will agree with this last statement you made. 
 
Best wishes,
Michael

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