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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 8:01:26 AM   
heartfeltsub


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Twice does know a thing or two about BDSM contrary to your opinion. And just for the record, there is at least one person who knew exactly what she meant when she used the phrase fuck buddy.

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/19/2006 8:07:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

 I am beginning to think I know why. Because there are too damned many guys out there who are looking for the fantasy, high heeled boots, black leather corset, keep me in a cage and whip me until I bleed oh Goddess of sex and pain. A fantasy that would be better fulfilled by hiring a pro domme. They just want a woman, any woman, a pair of tits and a twat, flogger permanently attached to their arm; they aren't interested in a particular woman because of who she is. 
 

Sad but true.  It's pathetic to know that they'd allow just any random woman to "do them."   Looking at it from another perspective, we know that these are also the guys who delete their profiles, who send high and mighty intentions and then bail on follow up calls or emails, or who pull no-shows after talking about how much experience they have.  Amazing how brave and fantastic their "submission" is when they've got their hand clenched around their cock, isn't it? 

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/19/2006 8:19:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
I know I am going to get shot and hung for saying this, but
it is my belief that most Dommes have a bitchy personality,
have an over-inflated view of themselves, have a hormonal
imbalance that causes them to behave like they have
constant PMS, are self-centered, and selfish.    These same
qualities attract masochistic males, but few masochistic
males can put up with such a female for very long......I suspect most female Dommes really have zero interest in bdsm. 

I look at the programming of the last 10 major BDSM events just here in the US and I see a majority of the nationally-known presenters being LIFESTYLE femdoms who are not male haters and who maintain D/s relationships, and I look at this, and I just have to say WTF?  Honestly.....I'm seriously asking this: what rock do you live under?

< Message edited by MisPandora -- 8/19/2006 8:25:34 AM >

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/19/2006 8:40:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dunno what rock... but it's a funny one....LOL. I've seen some screwy comments on here about all the different titles.. but I think we have a winner here... 

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 9:55:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Aw... Thank you hfs.

And to MisP and Ts4u a thank you as well, people never cease to amaze me.

Too bad we cannot get together with a few Dommes  and subbies i know to give a lesson in manners.

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 10:19:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub
Michael, Twice does know a thing or two about BDSM contrary to your opinion. And just for the record, there is at least one person who knew exactly what she meant when she used the phrase fuck buddy.


I think this is an insult to all people who practice bdsm.  To say a
bottom looking to be topped is necessarily looking for a fuck buddy
is just ignorant.  To say a top looking for a bottom to top is necessarily
looking for fuck buddy is just plain ignorant.   I am sure the vast majority
of those who post here would agree with me.  Make that 9 out 10 or
better. 

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 10:25:53 AM   
WhipTheHip


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Status: offline 		>  Sad but true.  It's pathetic to know that they'd allow just any random woman to "do them." 

That is true for most masochists whether they be male or female.   Your
silly, self-righteous, hypocritical judgmentalness is what's pathetic.  This
is just another case of YKINMK.    Pot, kettle, black.

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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/19/2006 10:32:48 AM   
WhipTheHip


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Status: offline 		> I look at the programming of the last 10 major BDSM events just here
> in the US and I see a majority of the nationally-known presenters
> being LIFESTYLE femdoms who are not male haters
 
Funny, I said nothing about Dommes being male haters.
 
Funny, how all those here who dispute my position feel a need to
change my words to something other than what I actually said.
This is common called a "straw man" attack.  You invent some
cockamamie position then attribute it to another, then claim
some assertion made by another is false, when inf fact all you
have done is dispute your own misinterpretation.
 
 

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 10:38:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

quote:

ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub
Michael, Twice does know a thing or two about BDSM contrary to your opinion. And just for the record, there is at least one person who knew exactly what she meant when she used the phrase fuck buddy.


I think this is an insult to all people who practice bdsm.  To say a
bottom looking to be topped is necessarily looking for a fuck buddy
is just ignorant.  To say a top looking for a bottom to top is necessarily
looking for fuck buddy is just plain ignorant.   I am sure the vast majority
of those who post here would agree with me.  Make that 9 out 10 or
better. 


I guess I would not be in that majority either as I too, understood what she meant. Furthermore, I am contacted by a lot of "Doms" who I would have to say are really more along the lines of "Tops" and the vast majority of them are looking for "fuck buddies" and not serious committed relationships.

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 10:41:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

>  Sad but true.  It's pathetic to know that they'd allow just any random woman to "do them." 

That is true for most masochists whether they be male or female.  


Glad you chose to say "most" instead of all. As a masochist I'd have to say I am pretty selective about who I let "do me".

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 10:55:15 AM   
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RE: UNICORN HUNT. - 8/19/2006 11:00:13 AM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

> I look at the programming of the last 10 major BDSM events just here
> in the US and I see a majority of the nationally-known presenters
> being LIFESTYLE femdoms who are not male haters
 
Funny, I said nothing about Dommes being male haters.
 
Funny, how all those here who dispute my position feel a need to
change my words to something other than what I actually said.
This is common called a "straw man" attack.  You invent some
cockamamie position then attribute it to another, then claim
some assertion made by another is false, when inf fact all you
have done is dispute your own misinterpretation.
 

And yet you have NO comeback to the point that a majority of the presenters who teach BDSM across the US are femdoms who clearly don't fit your bill.  Is there a reason for that?

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 11:03:34 AM   
gooddogbenji


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Status: offline 		Michael,

You, sir, seem to be somewhat slow on the uptake.  You don't read the OP, pretend to not know what she means by "fuck buddy," project your values onto others, assume you know everything, and, by reading your profile, I see you pretend to be a lovey dovey Dom, something that just rubs me the wrong way.

Now, I would love to say I agree with you, but the only thing of yours I agree with is in post #46, where you used "the" in a sentence properly.  For the rest, well, let's just say I can piss on a rock and make it sound smarter.

You assume we have been insulted by Twice's comments.  Actually, the rest of the world understood her properly - fuck buddy means not literally fuck buddy, but someone to beat them, or tie them up, or whatever they need - a casual play partner.  Gets 'em off on their fix with no strings attached. 

We were not insulted by her comments, but I personally feel that your comments have lowered the bar on this site even farther than a few other people whom I have been entertained by in the past 24 hours.

Seriously.  Read.  Think.  And then, if you have something smart to say, type.  Otherwise, e-mail me and I'll overnight you a large cork.

Yours,


Anon. (I hope no one knows who wrote this.  It could get me in deep shit!)

Edited because it was a tad over the top.  And that was after bringing it down a notch before hitting "OK."

< Message edited by gooddogbenji -- 8/19/2006 11:06:20 AM >

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 11:06:08 AM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

Michael,

You, sir, seem to be somewhat slow on the uptake.  You don't read the OP, pretend to not know what she means by "fuck buddy," project your values onto others, assume you know everything, and, by reading your profile, I see you pretend to be a lovey dovey Dom, something that just rubs me the wrong way.

Now, I would love to say I agree with you, but the only thing of yours I agree with is in post #46, where you used "the" in a sentence properly.  For the rest, well, let's just say I can piss on a rock and make it sound smarter.

You assume we have been insulted by Twice's comments.  Actually, the rest of the world understood her properly - fuck buddy means not literally fuck buddy, but someone to beat them, or tie them up, or whatever they need - a casual play partner.  Gets 'em off on their fix with no strings attached. 

We were not insulted by her comments, but I personally feel that your comments have lowered the bar on this site even farther than a few other people whom I have been entertained by in the past 24 hours.

Seriously.  Read.  Think.  And then, if you have something smart to say, type.  Otherwise, e-mail me and I'll overnight you a large cork.

Yours,
Anon. (I hope no one knows who wrote this.  It could get me in deep shit!)



Master Benji Strikes Again LOL

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 11:08:29 AM   
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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 1:35:49 PM   
WhipTheHip


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Status: offline 		Dear Humpty Dumpty,
 
In Lewis Caroll's "Through the Looking Glass," Humpty-Dumpty said,
"Words mean whatever I want them to mean."  I think every
Professional Domme would consider it the ultimate insult to be called a
fuck buddy.  Likewise, I think just about every top or bottom who scenes
would be deeply insulted by be called a fuckbuddy.  Anyone who
thinks that a bottom or top is a fuck buddy just because they have
a casual scene is a Fuck Head!!!! 
 
I didn't misread the original post.  I understood what the author
intended, and found it specious, dishonest and offensive. 
Calling a bdsm play partner a fuck buddy is a gross
misappropriation of the English language, and a gross
distortion of the truth. 
 
When people can't dispute what someone says, they resort
to defining words differently than everyone else, and
attack others personally and insult their intelligence. 
 
It appears I must have struck every close to home,
to get the kind of response I have received.  The
truth hurts.  Lies are easily brushed aside.  So,
call me anything you like.  The more people get
personal, the more it reveals their desperation,
and their inability to defend their position with
reason and common sense.   
 

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 1:59:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
Anyone who
thinks that a bottom or top is a fuck buddy just because they have
a casual scene is a Fuck Head!!!!   


Would this be an example of your mature and controlled Dominant nature?

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 2:15:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
 
I didn't misread the original post.  I understood what the author intended,

quote:


Note: Before I am slapped with the question "why were you looking instead of your Mistress?" let me say at first she did not realize I was. When I explained that I get so very tired of seeing her treated this way and that since I would not be hurt by those who act in this manner she was ok with that.
 
I did not write this because I am hurt, only frustrated, thank the goddess she made me a slave and not a Domme, though after dealing with this I am beginning to think I might actually enjoy flogging the hell out of a few of these guys………



If you did not misread the original post why it is you didn't pick up on the fact that twice is not a Domme, but rather is a slave. And in addition, twice was not talking about those who are looking for casual play and are honest about it, but rather about those that say they want a relationship but are really only looking for a casual encounter. It was the dishonesty she was addressing, not the desire for casual play.


< Message edited by heartfeltsub -- 8/19/2006 2:45:05 PM >

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 2:19:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip
Anyone who
thinks that a bottom or top is a fuck buddy just because they have
a casual scene is a Fuck Head!!!!   


Would this be an example of your mature and controlled Dominant nature?


Nope.  It's a shining example of how a cool, collected, impersonal statement will easily defend a position.

Yours,


benji

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RE: Excuse me. - 8/19/2006 3:21:14 PM   
Sinergy


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Status: offline 		Hello A/all,

While I am unwilling to engage in the train wreck the thread has become, I did want to make a comment about something the OP stated.

The internet and the various message boards, chat programs, etc., have allowed people to interact and meet up in a way that nothing has previously.  The medium itself allows people to either connect up as they truly are, as they truly think they are, as they want to be perceived by others.

Sometimes this is done maliciously or intentionally, but the longer I have been involved on-line (I hacked into university computers in the 1970s...) the more I have come to the conclusion that many people are not aware of who they really are.  Spending time with lots and lots of people in a therapeutic setting has transferred this general attitude to how I feel about most people.

Before anybody gets their knickers in a twist, I am simply making a general observation.

The Internet has a lack of consequence to any behavior a person portrays.  One can act with like the same sort of obnoxious punk that would result in savage beatings by the rest of the second grade, and there will be no consequences.  Some people learned manners in charm school and use them in cyberspace, other people revel in their newfound freedom to be a complete jackass.

I used to be disgusted, now Im just amused - Elvis Costello

The only advice I would want to give people reading this thread is to accept the situation as it is presented (jack-off do-me subs, jack-off CHUDWAH types, whatever) and work within the paradigm to find connection with a real human.  You sift through enough sand panning for gold and you will eventually find a nugget.

Or.

Log off and go find groups and people in your area and be friendly, use social skills, and work to be accepted within the group.

Good luck!

Sinergy




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