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MrDiscipline44 -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:30:19 PM)
I know you mean well, prophet, but nothing you suggest can be implimented immediately for susans safety. Self defense classes take months (at best) before it becomes second nature enough to impliment in a real world situation. Talking to a lawyer would not be something that can be done before next week. Even calling the police, it would take too long for them to respond to help her. Tasers are illegal/restricted in a handful of states/cities but Nebraska/Omaha isn't one of them that I can find.

Vancouver_cinful -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:34:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SCORPIOXXX if he can pound the asshole without going to jail for it, even more better! Rip his dick out through his throat -- metaphorically, if not literally... Keep us informed! ::sigh:: I know many people think this helps...but attacking an unstable person might just provoke them to retaliate when she is alone. She can't be guarded 100% of the time, and the more anyone engages him about this the more the situation escalates. This is not the best way to deal with this guy. Let the police handle it. Susan, please stay out of any situation where you can be caught alone, until things are dealt with. Good luck and best thoughts. And yes, please keep any private details to yourself.

WhipTheHip -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:34:13 PM)
Dear Susan: There is no reason to be afraid. If you take my advice, you will have no reason to fear this guy. First, you need to find out who he is. Go to the bdsm "play" house with any male friend. Let this guy know you are not afraid of him. Get to the "play" house early and talk to the owner. Tell the owner you don't want to have this guy banned from the place because you fear retaliation. Tell the owner, you just want him to be given a warning no to harrass you or any other female. Have the club owner tell him that he was going to be permanently banned from the club, but you convinced the owner not to ban him. Have the owner tell him he will be banned forever if he ever tries to communicate with you again, if he ever does what he did with you to any other female at the club, or if he ever passes by your home again. Have the owner tell him, if he comes back to the club, and sees you there, he must not look at you, and must stay at least 10 feet away from you. Have the club owner tell him, if he so much as gives you a dirty look, he is gone forever. If you succeed in getting him banned from the club, you will just be making an enemy you don't need to have, and you will have no leverage over him. So far, he has likely not violated any law. The most important thing for your safety is being able to find out who he is and where he lives. Once he knows you know where he lives, who he is, and all his driver's license information, he knows there is nothing he can do to you without going to jail. This is what I would have recommended you do in the first place. Don't let things escalate and spiral out of control. Don't make more of this than what has occurred. So far all the guy has demonstrated is that he is a little nuts, not that he is dangerous. He may very well be dangerous, but either way, it is better to nip this thing in the bud now, without making this guy your enemy. You don't want to antagonize people who are crazy. Ask the club owner to either copy or make a copy of the guy's driver's license, and get the tag number off his vehicle When the guy leaves follow him out the door to see which car he gets into. Try to note the make and model of the vehicle. Let the guy know, you now know who he is, and if anything happens to you, they will go looking for him. Even if the guy is a serial killer and an ax murderer he is not going to go after you with everyone knowing he is and knowing he has stalking you. Even crazy people are not that crazy. After you get the guys driver's license tell him that the police were going to arrest him for stalking you, but you convinced them not to arrest him until you had a chance to let him know he was harrassing you. Tell him now that he knows you want nothing to do with him, if he ever bothers you again, you will have the police arrest him for stalking you. Let him know if anything happens to you, he will be the prime suspect. Take care. Know that chances are very high this guy is not dangerous. For every guy that is truly dangerous, there are 10,000 guys that are clueless jerks. Best regards, Michael

BrokenDoll -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:35:43 PM)
Ok here is an idea.. instead of haveintg the police steak out the house on the off chance they will actually catch him... he gave you a place and time to meet him by all mean meet him but bring the police with you this way they are garenteed to be able too at least talk with him!!! edited to add: Ok that did sound a little bit nancy drue and maybe im beeing silly but at least you know you can find him just send he police in that direction

FelinePersuasion -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:35:49 PM)
Susan are you listening to anything any one's said. You've just notified every one and any one police are on your block, that's giving away TO MUCH INFORMATION. now if your stalker read this forrum he'd know not to come over, to wait till a later date. STOP POSTING TO MUCH INFORMATION FOR GODS SAKE.!!! [quote]ORIGINAL: SusanofO I just talked to the police, and they've agreed to surveill the block again on the hour, starting tonight at dusk. I just wrote a bunch of stuff, but then deleted it, as it had to do with my plans about how we are handling this guy. Suffice it to say, he is being handled. Hopefully, he will realize after today and tonight, that his attention is unwelcome. Thanks for listening - and for all of the great suggestions. I appreciate the help. -Susan [/quote]

popeye1250 -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:36:49 PM)
NY sub, be quiet! Susan, you can go to a gun store in your state and get a shotgun without any "permit" required. (N.R.A. site) They'll show you how to use it right there.

darkinshadows -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:40:28 PM)
Just echos Feline... susan... You really need to stop.... seriously...Please read you mail.... Peace and Rapture

Arpig -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:41:08 PM)
Susan, here are the things I suggest you do. 1. Go stay with a friend/relative for a few days 2. Contact the Police (from the friend's place) 3. Contact a lawyer 4. Get in touch with your large male friend and have him stay at your place for a few days 5. Keep your wits about you and do not get panicked. As was said in a previous post, be proactive, not reactive. Do not let him have the initiative, take action against him now!

WhipTheHip -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:41:35 PM)
Once you find out who this guy is, you can have the police go to his house and give him a warning, The thing is there is very little the police can do now, the guy has most likely not committed any crime. You really don't want to get the guy angry or antagonize him. The best thing to do is sit down with him at a table with the owner of the club, and one of your male friends. Talk to him normally. Let him know, he freaked you out. Treat him like a misguided human being. Let him know if he is looking for a sub, he is going about it the wrong way. Let him know, you are not his enemy, that he had you fearing for your life. More than likely the guy is clueless. Some people have a habit of living up or down to expectations.

popeye1250 -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:43:08 PM)
Prophet, in cases like (that) it's not up to a (judge), it's up to a jury. (If I were on a jury like that it would be an AUTOMATIC "Not Guilty" from me.) In cases like (this) where the Police have been notified more than once about this creep, it would never come to a prosecution. And if you did have to shoot you let them "bleed out" before calling the Police.

heartfeltsub -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:47:26 PM)
Going through her mail and stalking her is a crime.

BrokenDoll -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:48:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NYsub1 I don't know for some reason i think your seeking attention. I wont say your full of shit but i think your story has some holes in it. I could be wrong but you may be in a manic cycle right now. Not cool not cool at all considering your a new poster and susan isnt most posters here know her and know her better then to think this of her,,, you have some nerve acusieng!!!

LotusSong -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:49:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO I just talked to the police, and they've agreed to surveill the block again on the hour, starting tonight at dusk. I just wrote a bunch of stuff, but then deleted it, as it had to do with my plans about how we are handling this guy. Suffice it to say, he is being handled. Hopefully, he will realize after today and tonight, that his attention is unwelcome. Thanks for listening - and for all of the great suggestions. I appreciate the help. -Susan TMI!.. What if the guy is reading this thread?? All he has to do is wait until the police no longer are watching your block! You couldn't have done better than if you have set up a spotlight on your property for him. Yes we care..it's scary.. but damn girl.. use some common sense..you don't know WHO is reading this. Your friend you met there, that is from CM, could be a connection..who knows? Doesn't she know exactly who this guy is to help you out? A little paranoia on your part would serve you well :(

zumala -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:49:55 PM)
I know in Texas you can shoot anyone that forces their way into your home, no questions asked. They pass your doorstep uninvited, they consent to possibly leaving in a casket. End of story. Susan, don't worry about the legality of defending yourself and your home IF he breaks into it. I'd recommend you follow the good advise given here concerning the cops. I'd also recommend that, if you decide to keep in touch and let us know you're okay, that's ALL you do. Just post to say "Hi, I'm still OK." and not a damn thing else. No location, no activities, no active precations you're taking, nada. Do not talk about specific things you are doing related to this guy. Assume he's reading the boards as well. Best of luck, Hon. zuma

ProphetPX -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 1:54:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NYsub1 I don't know for some reason i think your seeking attention. I wont say your full of shit but i think your story has some holes in it. I could be wrong but you may be in a manic cycle right now. what the fuck???? how crass, how ... wrong!!! damn dude, that was just not right i wonder if that is the guy that has been bothering her?

ProphetPX -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:12:58 PM)
yes MrDiscipline44 you are right. I did not think of that at the time. Sorry. And Popeye, what you said just now, this time, I DO 100% agree with. I had not thought of that neither .... sighs .. I dont know why but sometimes I don't think of things all the way through neither ... but I try. Sorry. --- quote MrDiscipline44 --- I know you mean well, prophet, but nothing you suggest can be implimented immediately for susans safety. Self defense classes take months (at best) before it becomes second nature enough to impliment in a real world situation. Talking to a lawyer would not be something that can be done before next week. Even calling the police, it would take too long for them to respond to help her. Tasers are illegal/restricted in a handful of states/cities but Nebraska/Omaha isn't one of them that I can find.

swtnsparkling -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:21:53 PM)
quick reply: Twice before on the other thread I suggested she stop giving out so much detail information. It didn't last long.Now others are saying it also..... Lets see if it works this time. and .....I don't know why (just a feeling I could be wrong) but I am getting pretty close to agreeing with NYsub1 about the attention. And you "go get a gun people" chill out........ No one, not even Susan knows a dam thing about this man . He found her attractive and wants to get to know her and maybe thinks this ( albeit bad) way to do so he could just be an incredable idiot No one knows! And this person from here on collarme Susan recognized at the House that night- I wonder has she been contacted at all and asked any questions she obviously see's this guy there often.

WhipTheHip -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:22:06 PM)
Sometimes escalation can backfire. If the guy is really crazy, I would not want to unnecessarily antagonize him. I pick my fights carefully, and try to resolve things peaceably if I can. Some people may call me a wimp, but I had to deal with crazy, vicious, violent people for ten years. When you get into a boxing rink with someone, you are putting yourself at risk. I would rather try to reason first, and try to find out if this guy is really your enemy, before I unloaded all my guns at him. Of course, you can't make peace with every person. Sometimes, you just need to fight. But before I fight, I make sure it is necessary. I try to defuse situations. The more you attack some people the crazier they get. I try to go through life trying to make as few enemies as possible. I give others the benefit of the doubt. I wouldn't presume this guy is out to hurt you, nor would I rule out the possibility. By talking to the guy with a male friend and the owner of the club at your side, you can find out what is really going on in the guy's head. I would want to know that for my own peace of mind. I would want to know if the guy is dangerous or not. The only way to know this is by talking to him, and finding out why he acted the way he did. If the guy just gets banned from the club, and thinks you are out to get him, and he is unstable, you don't know what he might do.

WhipTheHip -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:35:52 PM)
Going through someone's mail is not necessarily a crime. Stalking may not be a crime in every state. And the crime of stalking has different elements in every state. All elements of a crime must be present in order for a defendant to be found guilty. Every element of a crime must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. It is not always easy to gain a conviction, especially for a crime like stalking. People have a right to follow other people around otherwise private detectives,reporters and paparazzi could never do their jobs.You can't count on the legal system to protect you.

SCORPIOXXX -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:37:19 PM)
for what it's worth, when I said "pounding the asshole" I didn't mean a light beating: I meant separating his arm bones from his shoulder sockets (a well known "chop fu" move, if you do know how); ditto for the knees -- make him wear diapers for the better part of a year... He may get upset, but he sure as hell won't be able to retaliate if he can't even wipe his own ass... But just as with any other weapon: if you don't know how to use it and if you are not willing to use to the extreme: let your friend do it for you. The police, the lawyers, the courts -- it's all very fine and dandy, but they all take time and have legal constraints forced upon them... Having a Friend Protector give this jerk a "Permanent & Final Warning" would get the message across a lot better than legal paperwork... Keep in mind: I am not a fan of wanton violence -- but with some people, that's all they understand. It's nice to be nice to the nice, until you are not given room to be nice. And then assholes get wiped...

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