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swtnsparkling -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:41:36 PM)

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for what it's worth, when I said "pounding the asshole" I didn't mean a light beating: I meant separating his arm bones from his shoulder sockets (a well known "chop fu" move, if you do know how); ditto for the knees -- make him wear diapers for the better part of a year... He may get upset, but he sure as hell won't be able to retaliate if he can't even wipe his own ass...  Having a Friend Protector give this jerk a "Permanent & Final Warning"


And I'm sure this friend wouldnt mind going to jail for assault if this man was so inclined to press charges



WhipTheHip -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:44:52 PM)

> And  you "go get a gun people"  chill out........ No one, not
> even Susan knows a dam thing about this man . He found
> her attractive and wants to get to know her and maybe thinks
> this ( albeit bad) way to do so he could just be an incredable
> idiot  No one knows! 
 
You are most likely correct.  But there is no harm in buying a
shotgun and a handgun for protection, just in case you are
wrong.  Better safe than sorry.   She is a female living alone.
She should keep a shotgun and hand gun at home for self-
protection.   Police in no state will arrest a female for shooting
a male intruder who breaks into her house with likely intent to
assualt her, as would be the case if this guy broke into house.
As I said she could have the shotgun shells loaded with salt.
But the best thing in a situation like this is to kill an intruder
to make sure he won't come back.



DoctorDubious -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:48:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

. Also, him knowing I was in France just freaks me out. It means he's not only been on my porch again, but that he opened and read my personal mail. Isn't there a law against that?

I am contacting an attorney. I was putting that off, because it seemed extreme. But I am doing it now.  Thanks for listening to me rant.

- Susan


OK Susan.

Time to stop this bullshit!
The first time the man followed you home,
he was a creep ... but he did not break the law.

Now, you have reason to believe that he has broken at least a couple of laws.

#1. File a complaint with the police.
       Be strong, and make sure they take you seriously.
       Make a copy of the evidence, and give the police the original.
         Document everything, make copies, do it right.

#2. Do exactly as I told you before,
       ie letter from attorney, strong friend phone call, etc.
       Photo copies of both notes, full story, etc.

#3. Contact BDSM house, inform them,
        even if it does no good, you must do the right things now.

#4.  Learn from this one.
       You are going down a path where strange men lurk.
        (a few good ones too, by the way).
         When a creep tries to intimidate you again,
           and you don't want it, respond clearly, quickly, and with assertive power.

#5.   Too bad this weird fuckwad had to show up like this.


DD
         



Slipstreme -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:52:29 PM)

I have to admit, that is kindof creepy Susan. I hope you follow the advise in this thread. Better safe than sorry. If you should happen across this man, keep a weapon on you, in case he does anything. Hopefully he is harmless, but the fact he is a flesh and blood stalker and not some cyber asshole, he is definately more capable of causing harm. Good luck Susan. Definately a good idea going ahead and getting the cops on your side. Also, you might want to have your friends with you more often. Or have some of your best most loyal friends on call, who would jump to help when needed. There is strength in numbers. It is really creepy especially considering that guy knows where you live. I hope the best for you Susan.



NYsub1 -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:52:52 PM)

Hey just my opinion thats all.  Im not looking to insult anyone here. Who knows i may be right or semi right or fully wrong. I hope this isn't real and if it is i hope the problem is rectified, And listen do you honestly think its a good idea to give advise like get a gun or kick his ass? I don't agree with your opinions on this but its your choice to speak up, You have your opinions i have mine thats all.



DoctorDubious -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:54:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

Once you find out who this guy is, you can have the police
go to his house and give him a warning,
 
The thing is there is very little the police can do now, the
guy has most likely not committed any crime.  You really
don't want to get the guy angry or antagonize him. 
 
The best thing to do is sit down with him at a table with
the owner of the club, and one of your male friends. 
Talk to him normally.    Let him know, he freaked you
out.  Treat him like a misguided human being.  Let him
know if he is looking for a sub, he is going about it the
wrong way.   Let him know, you are not his enemy,
that he had you fearing for your life.  More than likely
the guy is clueless.
 
Some people have a habit of living up or down to
expectations.  
 


Susan,

You are getting some decent advice here,
and some really terrible stuff.

#1. Don't fuck around with guns.
     All that will do is escalate a situation,
        and you have proven you are not aggressive nor proactive.
         
#2.  That stuff up there in red is weak bullshit.
        You don't reason with cheap fake intimidators and bully's
           you act strongly, non-physically, in terms they can understand, ie Power.
       You cannot placate a bully, nor reason with one.

Cheap power always fears the real stuff.

DD



MistressSophia -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:55:02 PM)

If someone is going through your mail. while still in the mail box. Then I would suggest speaking to your post master. He may have some suggestions. if your mail is being read once thrown out it is no longer consider private. So you may want to get a shreader.



SCORPIOXXX -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 2:57:14 PM)

First and foremost: if you love someone, a little jail time is worth it if it keeps your loved one healthy and in one piece. As I said in another Forum posting: a man who is not willing to defend his girl deserves neither her nor the unit between his legs. You can call it macho, stupid, or whatever you want to call it till you are blue in the face -- I call it doing "your job".

Secondly, I also pointed out that, if at all possible, such action should be undertaken without the risk of going to jail for it; if the shmuck doesn't know you, your name, or your face -- against whom is he going to press charges? And even if he does, then his own legal ass is on the line for being a stalker... And how many judges and jury are going to throw the max at a man standing up for his loved one/or friend?

If Susan were my girl, this guy would be praying for death...



popeye1250 -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 3:01:07 PM)

Scorpio, well said.
I just *BLOCKED* NYC sub.



Vancouver_cinful -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 3:12:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SCORPIOXXX

Keep in mind: I am not a fan of wanton violence -- but with some people, that's all they understand.



Sounds like you are advocating beating the pulp out of the guy, maiming, tearing and leaving him like a corpse in a bad video game. I guess I'd call that wanton violence, but we all differ in our beliefs.

I just know, from experience, that if you corner and threaten someone unstable you can't predict their actions. When someone intervenes with an abusive person the chances are the abuser will pick the original victim to wreck vengeance on.

As for legal, if you go looking for him and beat him up it's not self-defense it's assault.

Violence is NOT the answer. (Yes, I do support self-defense and would have no trouble urging someone to fight back when attacked.)




swtnsparkling -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 3:17:21 PM)

Oh for christs sake.  He followed her home and left two notes.
Perhaps finding out who he is and what he wants might be an Idea?
Or as simply as having a officer tell the man to please leave her be she is not
interested in any contact with him. If he then contacts her again and again there might be some thing there. Is he sitting in a car in front of her house? Has she seen him on the street or in a store she was in? Has he followed her again? has he called? I think right now all this is overreacting a bit.



SCORPIOXXX -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 3:17:48 PM)

Thank you Popeye...And Dr. Dubious is right about the weak "...let him know you are not his enemy yada yada..." crap -- ferchrissakes, this guy is not just following you and stalking you, he is going through your bloody frikkin' mail!!! Breaking into your house is the nextstep!!!... And you are supposed to talk to him, play nice and be friendly, "...sit down with the club owner..."??!!??? Geeze, what the hell is next, high tea with Ann Landers??? Eeeps and egads!

As Dr D. said, you can't reason with cheap ass bullies -- any contact only encourages them, and contact is what they want... For now, cover ALL the bases, from the legal paperworks to friends to be with or stay at. Say hi when you have a chance and keep a low profile.

We all look forward to a quick and happy resolution!



MsIncognito -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 3:27:13 PM)

And how, pray tell, are you going to protect your girl from a jail cell? D'oh! Guess you can't. I'm sure bravado can get you laid but it isn't going to do much good if your girl is a sitting duck while you make freinds with Bubba.

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ORIGINAL: SCORPIOXXX

First and foremost: if you love someone, a little jail time is worth it if it keeps your loved one healthy and in one piece.



SusanofO -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 3:37:38 PM)

Wow , thanks for all the support. It means a lot.

I am handling this - tonight. Me and the police, and my male submissive freind and my gal vanilla friend. Hopefully, this is the last time we'll ahve to deal with it.
I can't go into deatil, because even though I don't think he is a CM member, I don't know for certain and if he is he could read this.

Sorry to be such a baby about all this. I am very grateful for the good avice.

- Susan  



Vancouver_cinful -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 3:41:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsIncognito

And how, pray tell, are you going to protect your girl from a jail cell? D'oh! Guess you can't. I'm sure bravado can get you laid but it isn't going to do much good if your girl is a sitting duck while you make freinds with Bubba.



[sm=applause.gif] I'm with you on this one. More often than not, you do a better job of protecting your loved ones by using your brains instead of your fists.



Vancouver_cinful -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 3:42:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I am handling this - tonight. Me and the police, and my male submissive freind and my gal vanilla friend. Hopefully, this is the last time we'll ahve to deal with it.
I can't go into deatil, because even though I don't think he is a CM member, I don't know for certain and if he is he could read this. 


Best of luck, Susan!! Hope it all goes well.



popeye1250 -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 3:48:26 PM)

Scorpio, yup, time to go gun shopping.



SCORPIOXXX -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 4:00:52 PM)

I admit the outrage got me a bit carried away... Incognito and Vancouver_Cin have some valid points: if it can be done with brains, always so much the better -- although, in all fairness, since I am 1000s of miles from Susan, it's not like bravado is going to get me laid, lol, not to mention that if I were going to the mat, I'd already be getting it... Do note, Incognito, that I never said jail and Bubba were a requirement, ha ha ... But never mind all that...

The point is that Susan has found a way to reach a solution. We assume it will work and look forward to the happy news!

But I can't help saying it: once a month there is an article in the paper about a restraining order not being worth the paper it was written on... OK, OK, Ok, no more negativity after this...



SusanofO -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 4:06:15 PM)

After tonight, if this guy has any working brain cells, he will leave me alone.
I appreciate all of the support.

- Susan  



popeye1250 -> RE: The stalker is back. I got another note. I am officially freaked out now. (8/18/2006 4:10:43 PM)

Susan, let's hope he does!
I'd still keep a shotgun in the house though.
Just as a matter of personal protection anyway.



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