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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 9:08:56 AM   
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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 9:12:37 AM   
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Savage,

Don't get me wrong, everyone here has a right to their opinion.  But really, do you have to "air it out" here?  Who appointed you "Defender of Women"?  Did ALL of us ask to be warned about this person or any other person for that matter?  The girls you have spoken of may have asked, but I certainly did NOT & don't appreciate having to read online drama from someone that has no life. 

When you threaten people online, then you are asking for the police or even the FBI to get involved in your little corner of the world.  Also, when you claim to have money or that you are being financially supported by someone, isn't that frauding the government for your disability benefits?  You claim to give the money - given to you by the government & OUR tax dollars - to other people in need.  The gesture is "devine", but the ability to do it is fraudulous & should be taken seriously by anyone reading this. 

There are people out there the genuinely NEED to be on welfare, disability or whatever & can't get assistance.  The biggest reason being, because the government has guidelines it goes by in order to award benefits (whether it is welfare, SSI, medical...etc) to an individual or family.  The 1000's of people frauding the goverment everyday, month or year causes less benefits to be available to people who are really in need, destitute even.    Also, the guidelines (as far as income - family size ratio's) change due to fraudulous recipients, such as yourself, again... lowering the chance of someone in need actually receiving some assistance.

You say that you are an agorphobic, OK...fine.  That doesn't change the fact (one that you have stated many times) that you are being taken care of by someone else.  You claim to care about people & want to help them.  If that is the case, then why not legally forfeit your SSI or SSD, so that someone else can have it?  I personally wouldn't be able to sleep in my new house on the lake, knowing that I am sucking money from the government & someone else who REALLY needs it ... is out there somewhere sleeping in a cardboard box, IF they are lucky enough to FIND a box.

I work for the Department of Jobs & Family services, so I know what I am talking about.

Instead of sitting in your house, on this site, bashing this man... why don't you get some kind of work to do online?  There are plenty of online based companies that you could work for.  If you say that you aren't educated or whatever, no excuse there either.  There are "scads" of online accredited schools/colleges.  YOU are the only person that has the answer to YOUR situation.  Leave everyone else's situations alone until you can fix your own.

~~ kim ~~
*ready to be bashed, but at least i'm not frauding anyone*



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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 9:20:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy

I just LOVE the smell of Napalm in the morning....


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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:06:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SavageFaerie

Because this really happens to real people
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[snip]
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I have a voice in this community by right of being a part of it.

And you people only suggest I be quiet?
Yes this is MY drama and stupid damn me. I care about other people
So go ahead and just shoot me now.
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Why should I just sit back and happily let it happen to others.

Women have died at the hands of predators
Women have been raped
Women have been taken and never been seen of again

And we are just supposed to sit back and watch?

There are laws against this sort of thing.


The unfortunate fact is, there are laws against lots of things...
There are laws against using a box cutter to cut up an airline stewardess...
There are laws against breaking into the cabin of an airplane...
There are laws against hijacking that plane off of it's normal course...
There are laws against flying in developed and populated air space...
There are laws against intentionally slaming planes into high rise buildings...

All of these laws existed long before 9/11...

unfortunate facts...
in the US:
1 out of every 10 women will be forced to have sex before the age of 21...
of those women, 3 out of ten will be killed by the rapist...

Missing persons in the US:
1,760,000 persons are reported missing every year...
5 of every 7 missing persons is female...
20% of missing persons are never heard from ever again...
over 350,000 missing persons per year is approximately 100 people for every county in every state in the US... PER YEAR...
on average... 7 people, 5 of them women... will be missing within a 20 mile radius of YOU over the next 5 years...

The FBI does not readily publish this number unless it is requested under the sunshine act, however:
The FBI's estimated total number of Mass Murderers at large inside the United States at any one time is over 8,000 ... that is two mass murderers for evey county in every state in the union...

Yes, there are laws... yes you should say something... but also remember, there are laws against liable (publishing something you can not proove, against an individual, for personal gain or to cause intentional harm)...

Yes saying something could save a life... I have just shown you what the stakes are... understand how deadly serious these issues are.... and understand how your actions can cause further damage...

If you think the guy is dangerous, report everything to the police and start your thread with "I have taken this issue to the police and I am posting it here also"...

If you think the guy is an idiot, well, make sure you do not violate his rights or act in a liablous mannor when you make your post...

-Mez

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:08:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Where has all the drama gone, long time passing
Where has all the drama gone, long time ago,
Where has all the drama gone, gone to sleepy everyone
When will they please return, when will they please return,.

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:19:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mezentius

The unfortunate fact is, there are laws against lots of things...
There are laws against using a box cutter to cut up an airline stewardess...
There are laws against breaking into the cabin of an airplane...
There are laws against hijacking that plane off of it's normal course...
There are laws against flying in developed and populated air space...
There are laws against intentionally slaming planes into high rise buildings...

All of these laws existed long before 9/11...



Where did the World trade Center bombing come into this?  I hate shit like this being used in arguments.  It's getting to the point where throwing anything on this subject in should immediately end the debate because of patriotism, just like any Hitler comment should end it due to racism.  (Note - not comparing 9/11 to Hitler, just the situations where such references are used)

quote:



unfortunate facts...
in the US:
1 out of every 10 women will be forced to have sex before the age of 21...
of those women, 3 out of ten will be killed by the rapist...



1/10 x 3/10 = 3/100

3% of all women will be killed before the age of 21, by a rapist.  I think that would make it deadlier for teens than drinking and driving.

quote:



Missing persons in the US:
1,760,000 persons are reported missing every year...
5 of every 7 missing persons is female...
20% of missing persons are never heard from ever again...
over 350,000 missing persons per year is approximately 100 people for every county in every state in the US... PER YEAR...
on average... 7 people, 5 of them women... will be missing within a 20 mile radius of YOU over the next 5 years...



That means that 1/1000 of the American population goes missing per year, never to be seen again.  I think someone is just selling cloaks of invisibility.

quote:



The FBI does not readily publish this number unless it is requested under the sunshine act, however:
The FBI's estimated total number of Mass Murderers at large inside the United States at any one time is over 8,000 ... that is two mass murderers for evey county in every state in the union...



Define mass murderer, please!  I could be one, if you count cute puppies, kittens, and goldfish... mmmmm...  goldfish.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on the whole.  But using random numbers as statistics kinda undermines your argument, non?

Yours,


benji



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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:30:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		As someone that was stalked by the last vanilla boyfriend I had over the internet (he bugged me there because he didn't want to get caught doing it real time, this was someone I knew in the real world) this to me does not rise to the level of stalking. Shit, I couldn't log on to my messenger in my name without him booting me and hacking me, and doing the same to my former Dom.

This is a story at the very most of someone that decieves people, that is not nice, but it is hardly worth involving us nonconsensually in other people's crap.

I do not know who is at fault, and basically I really do not care  as I have zero way to control other people's behavior.. I just try to control my own. If what you say is true, these women are responsible for believing what they believe and being gullible, they have to be accountable so they do not make the same mistakes over and over. It isn't your job to save them from every errant dom in the world.

Like I said, it isn't my business and to be honest I think this whole thing is against the TOS...and there are these rules for a reason, so people like me do not get dragged into dramas and then wreck the whole board for everyone.

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:36:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sorry, but the internet is not reality for most people.  Either it's a glorified telephone or mailbox, or it's a fantasy zone.  It seems as though you've gotten caught up in some interpersonal drama that is not your own.  WALK away from it.  Stop making bad choices and engaging in this nonsense with others.  It's YOUR bad choices that you're making.  Hard line I'm taking here, but if you're having this much drama over a stupid computer screen (or anyone else for that matter), you need to spend far less time on the internet and far more time getting some counseling on how to live your life with less fear and more self-assuredness and security.  Try logging out, hitting the delete button or the little X in the top right corner of the screen.  It'll do wonders to your mental state.  You watch.

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:44:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SavageFaerie

Women have died at the hands of predators
Women have been raped
Women have been taken and never been seen of again


And dogs and puppies and cats and kittens die every day in kill shelters.
And ethiopian kids starve and die with bloated bellies and maggots crawling out of their noses.
And Marines in Bagdhad are exploded until they are no longer recognizable by  roadside bombs.
And thousands of people died because a bunch of really messed up people crashed our planes into our buildings back a few years ago.
And the Ramsey kid probably died because her parents exloited her as a child star dressed as a sexy adult.

Grow up love.  There's tragedy everywhere.  Every moment of the day.  Look, there's a lady who just fell and broke her hip.  Or a kid who just got hit by a car.  And you're wasting our time on this nonsensical online drama?  This ranting for weeks and months on end only makes you look like an ass and gives whomever you're ranting about more air time to show that you're a fool.

If you TRULY care, go volunteer at a planned parenthood clinic or become a rape crisis counselor and make better use of your energy and time. 

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:46:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just a question here... has anyone noticed that the man she is ranting & raving about, hasn't posted anything in a while... yet she kept yammering on?????????????????????

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:46:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SavageFaerie

I suffer from
Depression
PTSD
Panic Disorder

Both of my grown children have attempted to kill themselves.

Well will you at least please go take your meds?  This is getting ridiculous, and it's offensive to those here who have these illnesses and who act like civilized adults who are normalized into society.  Me thinks the time and those 2161 posts could have been better invested in some offline counseling.......

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:48:54 AM   
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Frankly I think you have mislead a number of these subs in to thinking you know it all and are some sort of authority on the matter. You say he is a predator- I say you are as well. I think you thrive on this sort of thing- subs coming to you . You need to get your own life and live it and stop trying to live thorough others.

*kisses you on the head* Thank you for saying it in a more PC way than my annoyance could ever allow me to do right now!

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:52:18 AM   
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AMEN!

I don't just sit around and talk about the many people who need & deserve public assistance... I DO volunteer at 2 homeless shelters, the county "mission center" & offer child care to people who are getting on their feet...at NO charge, until some kind of child care assistance is established for the newly self sufficient single parent or families with both parents working.  It's truly rewarding to me, to meet these people.... and an honor to watch them go from a homeless shelter, to having jobs, watching their children & seeing them get their own places to live.

There are better things to do rather than sit here day after day & cause some online drama.  So I think that the OP should just be banned from posting... lol.



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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:53:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kimmysue

Just a question here... has anyone noticed that the man she is ranting & raving about, hasn't posted anything in a while... yet she kept yammering on?????????????????????

No, there's a few threads where the two of them went at it with spades.

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 10:55:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

quote:

ORIGINAL: kimmysue

Just a question here... has anyone noticed that the man she is ranting & raving about, hasn't posted anything in a while... yet she kept yammering on?????????????????????

No, there's a few threads where the two of them went at it with spades.


yes he did go on in the other thread but he hasnt posted once in this one. The OP started this one so she could continue the drama here.

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 11:09:03 AM   
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Thank you for saying it in a more PC way than my annoyance could ever allow me to do right now!


MisPandora,
Thank You



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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 11:16:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BuxomGoddess714

I never meant to imply by MY post I was taking sides.  Only that this was the improper Forum to air personal grievances, no matter how righteous they may be.  Even if a crime had been committed.  This is not the place for such things, for exactly the reasons You so eloquently state.  I apologize if anyone misunderstood My point.



Well said, but not just to the OP.....i think personal vanilla [online or not] issues are best handled privately or with the helped of loved  ones.                Needy! Needy! drama!

However, to the OP--You have stated that you have tried to protect 7 women--If you helped them, why arent they defending you now?  My point is people who you should be looking out for should generally be looking out for you as well.--Just think about it. Just appears one-sided but what in the hell do i know. No disrespect to whoever the girls are or you--just dont get too attached to fonts and forums.
 
In looking at my message above, you can say it is none of my business, and i must concede, "It is none of my business, and how/why in the world should i know about this"?

< Message edited by MissTlTTYMilk -- 8/19/2006 11:20:00 AM >

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 11:23:39 AM   
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AMEN!

I don't just sit around and talk about the many people who need & deserve public assistance... I DO volunteer at 2 homeless shelters, the county "mission center" & offer child care to people who are getting on their feet...at NO charge, until some kind of child care assistance is established for the newly self sufficient single parent or families with both parents working.  It's truly rewarding to me, to meet these people.... and an honor to watch them go from a homeless shelter, to having jobs, watching their children & seeing them get their own places to live.

There are better things to do rather than sit here day after day & cause some online drama.  So I think that the OP should just be banned from posting... lol.





Why "ban" them? If you don't like it, quit reading and contributing to it.

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 11:26:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is unreal. I am sad to say that I am not quite sure why this is allowed to continue. Your cause, while noble in your eyes, is better served behind the scenes rather than exposing yourself to open ridicule and insults. You may well have been a help to those women you mentioned and by God I hope you have made a difference in their lives, but there comes a point when you must allow others to make their own mistakes. Some people do not learn. The fact is that you cannot save everyone. A harsh reality, but reality nonetheless.

In thinking about a lot of the comments on here I do take specific offense to the fact that as a generality, the implication is that men are the predators and women are the hapless victims. While I know that the statistics are tipped in the direction of men, lest we forget, women also prey on males. Yeah, I know what you are going to say... 'that number is insignificant compared to women being victimized'... that is not my point. My point is that why must it be gender specific at all. Can it not be generically stated as predators and left there? Must it be "Dom's" and men? Perhaps a trivial item to point out, but I find this a disturbing trend and undercurrent on these boards. Men = Bad. Women = Good.

I had to chime in... sorry.

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RE: I am very disturbed by online predators - 8/19/2006 11:29:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Why did you choose to bring this upstairs?



chi-ching...... the answer is clearly stated with overt pride in one of the many other all day sucker threads....
"I am the Fucking Drama Queen of the world"     

(also reminiscent of fatal attraction)



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