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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:25:01 AM

Chloelicious

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Homestead,

i didnt said that he was not expressing himself well and i get the point about hypocrisy but why starting the first post abvout that , and why being hurtfull or moking ( once again the "elephant" in the corner expression).

Did you (all) have once heard a BBW, fat or so telling about skinnier person: i pointed toward the skeleton in the corner?
If one of us ( i'm a bbw) used that kind of word she would risk being burned on the market place. Don't do to the others what you would'nt like happening to yourself!!!!! i think it s a nice philosophy.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:29:03 AM

Kahri

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Now personally, I would not mind a fat, ugly submissive. I'd rather I was the cutest, thinnest one in the room.

Oh - I don't think I am fat, and I do think I am at least moderatley attractive.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:31:45 AM

Homestead

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Anything is possible, but look at what is reasonable. People who work out and take care of thier bodies usually want a match for that. They are aware of the health reasons. Many will not have much respect for those they percieve do not value thier health in the same way. Nor will they enjoy the stress of being with one they percieve may suffer some calamity from it.

I'm an older man, a bit on the heavy side myself. I'm told I am not "bad looking". Past girls have thought I was handsome. Still, I don't put up a picture. I want my core expression to be the attraction, not my shell. I look at things long term, and seek a very special and unusual sort of woman. I have a mental picture of a spirit, not a body.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:32:05 AM

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quote:

I even used the same wording just different pictures, one showing a "handsome" guy, one showing an "ugly " guy and another blank.

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ORIGINAL: anondom

It amazes me how submissives and even others will jump on anyone who says anything against BBWs as shallow assholes and yet...

Those very same women do not bother emailing anyone who isn't thin and handsome with a picture. So not only are some (because of course the 800 women who respond to this are ALL exceptions) just as shallow as male doms, they are also hypocrites as well.

I did a test of a couple of profiles, I even used the same wording just different pictures, one showing a "handsome" guy, one showing an "ugly " guy and another blank.

I only got responses from the "handsome" picture. Almost all were women that the ugly guy might have considered being seen with.

Now love and lust come in strange packages, I will admit that and heck, I have known large women I have lusted after for what was inside them. That said, for them to NOT respond to the words, the SAME words, not until they were tied to a handsome face is hypocritical and far more shallow than men who at least have the integrity to admit looks matter.

So, lets see where this thread goes other than a flame fest against me for pointing out the fat elephant in the corner.

I agree with you 100%, brother.

Sometimes you've gotta be acerbic to make your point, because more people respond to a demagogue than a "watered down", walking on eggshells post. Good job!!

Like I said on a previous thread........the responses didn't start coming from gals until AFTER I posted a picture; whereas, my profile was up-to-par before, but every woman that I spoke to would only give me the perfunctory and dismissive "polite" response.

I feel shitty for those guys, who aren't "conventionally" attractive, but have shining personalities, because they are doomed to REJECTION. But of course, like you so cleverly pointed out, every woman is going to claim to be the "exception to the rule", and get defensive when you expose their innate shallowness.

Here's a valid social experiment to help prove your point. Walk into any Chippendales, and observe how many women you see getting hot and bothered for "Ted, the 47-year old, kind-hearted social worker with a blue-ribbon smile."

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:33:19 AM

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I am a BBW; have been all my life and have lived with the stigma all along. There are times that we don't 'count' because we are fat. People will talk over me WHILE I'M TALKING, because I'm not society's idea of perfect. Fat people are made fun of and discounted all the time.
And I respond to anyone who WRITES WELL to me. If they can spell and say something worth reading, I will respond to them, whether or not they have a picture. And if they do send a picture, I respond to the LARGEST COCKS; forget the face. I'm after the cock. Perfection for me is having a cock too thick and long to get into me, and give me pain stuffing it into me...
I've tried losing weight, and it just does not work; not for long. I take after my Grandmother, who was a BBW. I have genetics against me....

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:35:24 AM

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How nice of you to represent yourself with pictures of another man who isn't you.

The fact that you did that, and now hide behind a fake name, leads me to conclude that your only goal was to take an opportunity to criticize a segment of people whom you don't find attractive. You mention nothing about performing your little experiment on an old, unattractive woman who may desire a young, attractive male over the ugly one, or the ugly thin women who might have also may have preferred the attractive male.

All things being equal, a pretty smile is usually preferred by everyone, regardless of if they have one themselves. Your experiment is far from scientific... and to the point of your thread, I say .... So?

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:37:29 AM

Homestead

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Nor do I, a 47 year old man, go chasing the cutest 18 year old girls I can find, to make me feel young again. They aren't of my generation, and have not the experience to bring to the table that an older woman does. I am a bit gunshy of very pretty women as well. Unless I can see that they are very intelligent and mature. In a society the worships beauty, far too many seem to rely on looks, to the detriment of developing in other areas.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:39:58 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: anondom

porcelaine,

As for rejection, it wasn't rejection sort of by definition, I did get lots of responses, they just were not from women I would have any interest in other than as friends and I have enough of those. As for making the results public, why would I desire to hurt the feelings of the specific women I was speaking of?

You don't wish to hurt their feelings, yet you use colorful language that is far from respectful for the very women you're criticizing. So they are BBW. Is there some law that exists that requires them to accept any male that would give them attention? Are her personal preferences and likes not an issue? The particular women that you were speaking to may simply prefer a more attractive man. Their size doesn't render them blind. I really don't understand why people get up in arms on either side to be honest. People are free to select the person they feel is best suited for them. Regardless of the size, shape, or hue that the package comes in. Some folks are simply not happy unless they're complaining.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:48:04 AM

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Sorry, can't relate. I'll respond to a great letter any day, and actually prefer *no* picture first.

Do I have a limit in terms of what I find attractive? Yes. I got suckered into meeting someone who was 80-100 pounds heavier than the chubby picture he sent me. The man actually made me look thin. (hard to do!)

I will also say that someone being overly conventionally handsome does not really sway me, though.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:51:06 AM

GddssBella

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G'morning all:

Normally, I pass the "hating fatties" threads right on by. This one kind of irked me. Just because someone's overweight they're not entitled to their preferences? *BLINKS* How does that make this select group of individuals hypocrites? Everyone has different aspects they find attractive.

There's many men out there that I find ascetically pleasing but wouldn't give them the time of day because they're idiots. Same goes for some hefty hunks. I do place a higher value on one's personality but if there's no physical chemistry, I would be doing myself a disservice by entertaining any possibilities otherwise.

For the record, my boy has a handsome face but is overweight and hairy as a wookie. His outgoing personality, wit, charm, and humor are what won me over. Before we ever met.

To the OP; get a grip, live with rejection, and keep your sour grapes to yourself.

Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others...

Bella

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 8:54:53 AM

takenOne

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kudos to You Goddess! my post didn't come across quite as i had wished but Your point about chemistry and example about Your boy winning You over is exactly what 'it' should be all about!

humbly,
heather

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 9:01:55 AM

SweetSubTrisha

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I can not understand why someone would go to so much time and effort, as this 'survey' must have taken, to try and point out a flaw in human nature. Yes, there are shallow people everywhere..we all know that already. Why not do a 'survey' on some good facets of people?? What's the purpose, other than to try and humiliate? I wish i had that much time to waste.

~trisha

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 9:14:40 AM

ownedandcollared

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At least you actually tested your theory before making a blanket statement...

and it isn't all. i am 185lbs, and not pretty at all, and i in no way care what my Master looks like. He is stil my Master,

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 9:26:48 AM

juliaoceania

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I dunno, I have received some emails from some GQ hunky almost beautiful men... they did nothing for me because they were younger than myself... I do not like pretty boys, I prefer average looking.. I was attracted to Daddy despite his striking and head turning good looks, not because of them.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 9:28:50 AM

juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: takenOne

dear Sir - i hope that this won't become a flame fest - energy that could be put into so much other, better things.

i, myself, am an SSBBW - 6'1", 460 pounds. i do consider myself rather pretty as does my Daddy.

You are very strikingly pretty btw

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 9:33:43 AM

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I think what is happening is men are finally going thru what women have gone thru for centuries. Men have traditionally chosen a mate based upon looks first then personality later.....Now that Women are doing that same thing, men are starting to feel the STING of that type of rejection. Beautiful Women have for centuries married BUFUGLY men most times for security but also because of personality. Hardly ever do you see a DROP DEAD GORGEOUS MAN with a BUFUGLY woman. Suck it up like a man and stop crying.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 9:34:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: anondom

Lucky,

You are normally right on the money but you missed it with this one. You have no idea who I am and in fact we have had conversations. This is far from my first post as well, I created this ID just for this thread, to protect the guilty (me) as well as the innocent.

porcelaine,

As for rejection, it wasn't rejection sort of by definition, I did get lots of responses, they just were not from women I would have any interest in other than as friends and I have enough of those. As for making the results public, why would I desire to hurt the feelings of the specific women I was speaking of?

Thing is - what is it exactly that you are trying to prove? That some women are shallow, just like some men are?

You do not need to create different profiles for that. And the fact that you can't even admit who you are honestly as well as admit to being this person, is just empty.

Some people are shallow be it male or female - any person with half a brain doesn't need a thread or poll to know that. You're just as shallow, yet in a different way, because you cannot conduct such a 'poll' as yourself and be open about it.

So, carry on - hide away.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 9:37:51 AM

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I don't think it's 'shallow' to want to play with someone you feel an attraction towards...

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 9:41:03 AM

takenOne

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thank you very much julia....you're very kind sweetie

hugs,
humbly,
heather

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 9:46:12 AM

Celeste43

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We didn't exchange pictures. We're both old, being in our fifties. And he's heavier than I am which is just how I like it. I admit it, I'm shallow. I like dark haired men a little older than me, tall and heavier. These are my preferences. What I don't do is put down young skinny blond guys because that would be rude whether done here or at a dinner party when I've been seated next to one.

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