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RE: Drop and give me twenty - 9/5/2006 1:20:27 PM

Bearlee

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heather,

I LOVED raising chickens and tried it again recently...along with rabbits, till a darn dog got in!

Anyway...I love to watch them. Next time I try, I'm going to have a big caged area instead of opening the coop and letting them run all over. Sure, they eat bugs, but their darn feet are regular earth movers!!! ...and they eat plants, too! LOL

I wanted to ask...you do know you don't HAVE to keep a rooster to get them to lay, doncha? I went with www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/ and bought chicks thought to be female. Ya always get a few males anyway... and I just put 'em in the freezer about the time they got old enough to start crowing.

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RE: Drop and give me twenty - 9/5/2006 1:31:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong
There was nothing like a bit of humiliation in mid-day gym class. Isn't that Robert Preston sinigng that?

Let us not forget the breast press from the butch gym teacher yelling "Press.. Press.. the bigger the better the tighter the sweater"

(I don't belivee I'm sitting here listening to the WHOLE song while writing this!)

If you're into gym-class humiliation, try this one on for size:
All girl catholic school. Once we were finished with the unit on Badminton, we moved on to Square Dancing. This featured sixteen adolescent girls in tunics and bloomers moving about in sets of four to this little ditty:

"And duck for the oyster... duck duck duck!
And dive for the clam....dive dive dive!"

I kid you not.

Surprisingly enough, I have nothing against square dancing today.
I laugh every time I think about diving for the clam, though.

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RE: the chickentarian thread - 9/5/2006 1:37:06 PM

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Bearlee - Thanks for the info and the link. Yes, I have an understanding of the biology involved in laying.
Basically, we went for the potluck batch of twenty five instead of paying for them to be sexed at birth. We couldnt order fewer than twenty five, even though that's twice what we wanted, so we figured if at least half of them were girls, we'd be ok. We ended up pretty much half and half and are knocking off or giving away the males until we have one really bad mama jama rooster. Daddy thinks it's a good idea to have an aggressive male around, especially since we have barn cats.
We kept ours in a pen that is attached to the henhouse for some time. Now they roam free and roost in a big evergreen tree outside the barn. The chicken yard was totally overgrown with weeds when we first let them in there and in very short order they turned it into a mud yard :-) so it's actually more tidy for us to keep them out of the chicken yard most of the time.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 1:56:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: justheather

But, really, how often do you see couples where there is a great disparity between the parties' physical attractiveness

i think that's definately true in the classic dating years.. (early 20's) but as couples age together, you might see the disparity come up.

When hubby and i met, W/we were both say 7-8's. He was a perfectly fit tall masculine jock type, but not too terribly above His military peers in fitness and looks, but slightly above average. i was normal height, curvy, and had carriage that took me up a notch, facially i'd say i was about a 6. Like guys looked at faces when i was 20?

20 years later, His value goes UP as He is now more fit than His peers and He has the confidence and bearing of someone who hasn't ever felt "lower league".. keeping Him at the 8 range. mine has gone down, adding 100 lbs and loosing the youth, carriage and curvy aspects has me pretty close to a 3 or a 4.

People notice? You bet they do. Waitresses give him the "you can't seriously be with her" look as they ask "1 check or 2?" figuring W/we must be co-workers rather than romantic partners. Where that gets me is inside my mind, i am still conditioned to feel like a 7 or so, respond to guys in the 7 and upwards range, and forget my "league reality" has changed and will remin so unless i take some proactive measures.

So i'm not really being shallow in my shallowness, i am just working off an old paradigm.. <grins>

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 2:10:43 PM

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*sigh* If only the "beautiful" people fell in love then everyone would be beautiful. But wait!! Everyone IS beautiful and perfect and it's only negative thoughts that flaw our beauty. Am i odd?? i respond to every email regardless of looks and frankly am probably more receptive to the "average-looking" guy than the hunky ones because i figure the average guy had to develop a character that the hunky one didn't feel necessary to develop.

i greatly admire the OP for having so few worries and problems in His life that this whole subject should take the amount of time and effort He invested. Please don't consider this statement a flame, but please, Sir consider Yourself greatly blessed if this is the most pressing problem in Your life.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 2:16:49 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mavis

quote:

ORIGINAL: justheather

But, really, how often do you see couples where there is a great disparity between the parties' physical attractiveness

i think that's definately true in the classic dating years.. (early 20's) but as couples age together, you might see the disparity come up.

When hubby and i met, W/we were both say 7-8's. He was a perfectly fit tall masculine jock type, but not too terribly above His military peers in fitness and looks, but slightly above average. i was normal height, curvy, and had carriage that took me up a notch, facially i'd say i was about a 6. Like guys looked at faces when i was 20?

20 years later, His value goes UP as He is now more fit than His peers and He has the confidence and bearing of someone who hasn't ever felt "lower league".. keeping Him at the 8 range. mine has gone down, adding 100 lbs and loosing the youth, carriage and curvy aspects has me pretty close to a 3 or a 4.

People notice? You bet they do. Waitresses give him the "you can't seriously be with her" look as they ask "1 check or 2?" figuring W/we must be co-workers rather than romantic partners. Where that gets me is inside my mind, i am still conditioned to feel like a 7 or so, respond to guys in the 7 and upwards range, and forget my "league reality" has changed and will remin so unless i take some proactive measures.

So i'm not really being shallow in my shallowness, i am just working off an old paradigm.. <grins>

Mavis, i enjoy the way you express your thoughts. *smile

i know i will always be young at heart and spirit. i tend to forget that ole "league reality" myself at times. (hehehe...i like that term) Logic and common sense try to remind me of it though. *grin, but only when i let them! LOL! Usually i am in "ah...fuck it" mode! LOL! i do tend to attract younger guys though, and i think it is because of my youthful nature, this is what i am told most often, for there are those younger than i who act 20 years my senior. i hope you can get to the place within yourself to where you can experience a paradigm shift, and "work up" a new paradigm! *grin You know it will be an auto-booster shot for sure! *smile

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 3:56:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened

frankly am probably more receptive to the "average-looking" guy than the hunky ones because i figure the average guy had to develop a character that the hunky one didn't feel necessary to develop.

Big ditto! I've found that average-looking guys are to me the sexiest, because they have a great combination of looks and personality that gorgeous people rarely acquire.In fact, when I talk about somebody being gorgeous, they are probably exactly the same guy that someone else would describe as average. To me, that person may be gorgeous because I enjoy their boy-next-door appearance and find them ruggedly sexy :)

I've heard men, those oh-so-visual creatures, say similiar things themselves. I've met quite a few men (mostly men in their 30's) who say that "beautiful" women are fun to fuck but only for a night or two...then their lack of personality makes them rather boring and uninteresting. I've also heard that they tend to think that all they have to do is lay there and look beautiful, whereas a plainer girl may feel the need to work on her sexual skills in order to "make up" for being plain.

I can't count the number of men who look at a beautiful woman and say, "I'd fuck her but I wouldn't marry her." Men may be visual creatures, but look how few of them actually marry beauty queens? I constantly see good looking guys with plain looking women, and if you ask them, they often say, "But my wife is gorgeous! She's got a great smile/gorgeous eyes/a beautiful face etc!" They genuinely find that person to be beautiful to them, even if others may think she's less than spectacular.

Long point made short, pretty girls may get fucked more but I don't think they fair any better in the long term goal of finding a life partner.The same goes for men. Being good looking isn't going to help them that much in finding a good partner in the long run. Most women will choose a plain looking nice guy over a gorgeous asshole.

I recently recieved a rather rude email asking me if my weight had hindered my ability to find a good dominant...Ironically, I've found the opposite to be true. When I was a teenager, I was a size 3, 5ft3, 120lbs, 36C bra size, long blonde hair, etc and the only men who ever asked me out where shallow losers who were only out to get laid. Now that I'm a size 14, 185lbs, I find that I attract the sweetest,most genuine men who honestly care about forming relationships. I feel blessed to be able to interact with these great men.

From a Lifestyle perspective, I've found that the shallow wanna-be types leave me alone and I only attract the older, more serious dominant gentleman :) I consider my lack of physical beauty a blessing in disguise.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 4:11:23 PM

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I don't get up in arms when someone expresses a preference in personal appearance. I get up in arms when that preference is expressed in such a way that it denegrates all the people in a given apperance type or the individuals that prefer them.

"I prefer petite, thin women"

vs

"Fat women are so gross!"

Well said, perverseangelic.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 4:13:13 PM

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Being good looking isn't going to help them that much in finding a good partner in the long run. Most women will choose a plain looking nice guy over a gorgeous asshole.

I agree 100%. And i decide whether to answer or not answer messages based on the message. i hardly ever check someone's profile or photos first. Intelligence is sexy. Wit is sexy. Being physically gorgeous? Has nothing to do with what i am looking for. Let the superficial people go after the hunks - leaves more kind, wonderful, average-looking Doms for me:)

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RE: Drop and give me twenty - 9/5/2006 4:39:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: roughleather

We need more of this today.

"Once more on the rise.
Nuts to the flabby guys!
Go, you chicken fat, go away!
Go, you chicken fat, go!"

I'm going to shout this every morning at the top of my lungs as I eat my pancakes.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 4:40:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

What did you say about elephants?

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ORIGINAL: anondom

So, lets see where this thread goes other than a flame fest against me for pointing out the fat elephant in the corner.

LOL

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 5:04:39 PM

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I never judge anyone by their looks ... those are things that pass and fade. Give me loyalty and a hard days (nights *winks) work and ... we'll get along more than a little bit *s*.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 5:44:54 PM

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Egads, I seldom take offense to much I read on here. But, who gets to decide who is handsome or pretty, and who is ugly? Who gets to decide who someone else will be willing to be seen with?

All too often in my life the "handsome" package has come with a lot of excess baggage in terms of their personality. Give me an average looking guy, or even someone who is less than average looking who has a decent personality and a sense of humor. Average Joe tends to be a lot better at forming relationships because he hasn't had women falling all over him because of how he looks. At age 70 the pretty boy isn't pretty anymore and a good conversation, good personality, and sense of humor will stay as fresh and appealing as it ever was.

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RE: Drop and give me twenty - 9/5/2006 5:47:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: roughleather

We need more of this today.

"Once more on the rise.
Nuts to the flabby guys!
Go, you chicken fat, go away!
Go, you chicken fat, go!"

I'm going to shout this every morning at the top of my lungs as I eat my pancakes.

Uh, Sir, that could get messy :)

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 5:56:51 PM

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Hey! I sure ain't much to look at when it comes to pretty (ie, BIG, INTIMIDATING, older, HEAVY).
But, I have more female friends than anyone I know. I don't get laid much, but I ain't complaining. Those poor fellas that gotta worry about finding the "perfect Barbie" must be awful lonely most of the time.

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RE: Drop and give me twenty - 9/5/2006 6:03:09 PM

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I find much of what is being said on here to be indicative of this environment. For if the consensus were truly representative of the dating scene, there would be very little market for CollarMe and other sites of this nature. While I am not fond of the verbiage the OP opted to use to convey his message. People are going to like what they wish and for most that does include updating. While some are willing to admit this aloud, others will hide behind colorful language. Whether it be the physique, education, career, social class, or monetary earnings, most carry some element of bias.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 6:06:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: MASTERHAWG

Hey! I sure ain't much to look at when it comes to pretty (ie, BIG, INTIMIDATING, older, HEAVY).
But, I have more female friends than anyone I know. I don't get laid much, but I ain't complaining. Those poor fellas that gotta worry about finding the "perfect Barbie" must be awful lonely most of the time.

As a matter of fact they really aren't. Most are out and about seeking her. For every man that desires a barbie doll, there's a woman or two willing to fill the role.

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 6:13:18 PM

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Here's a valid social experiment to help prove your point. Walk into any Chippendales, and observe how many women you see getting hot and bothered for "Ted, the 47-year old, kind-hearted social worker with a blue-ribbon smile."

Ahh...my young friend....I've dated "Ted the 47 year old kindhearted social worker with a blue ribbon smile" He was breathtakingly sadistic!!

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 6:23:42 PM

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Tell you what. I'm not even going to read 5 pages of this. I just want my post count to go up by one. No harm in that, yeah?

My immediate reaction is two fold. The first, by the title of the thread. If I'm fat, old, and ugly (all subjective items, mind you), goes that qualify me for a hat trick, or triple crown, or somesuch?

And the other, I'm just amazed that the elephant managed to find itself in the corner. That must have been quite a feat.

Jeff

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RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives - 9/5/2006 6:25:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

As a matter of fact they really aren't. Most are out and about seeking her. For every man that desires a barbie doll, there's a woman or two willing to fill the role.

porcelaine

When I first signed up for this site I was accused by a number of sub men who I kindly rejected in mail, that I resembled a "plastic Barbie doll" myself, so I take offense to that statement!!

Though, I am sure you are right about the women that are willing to fill the role of "Barbie" for those seeking her kind. I hear that they come "life size" and are fully equipped with mouth and vaginia and real human hair, though I beleive the electronic air pump is extra.

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