RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives

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cuddleheart50 -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 6:28:42 PM)
Different strokes for different folks, isnt that great! That way we all get something we want.

eruditegirl1 -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 7:17:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: anondom It amazes me how submissives and even others will jump on anyone who says anything against BBWs as shallow assholes and yet... Those very same women do not bother emailing anyone who isn't thin and handsome with a picture. So not only are some (because of course the 800 women who respond to this are ALL exceptions) just as shallow as male doms, they are also hypocrites as well. I did a test of a couple of profiles, I even used the same wording just different pictures, one showing a "handsome" guy, one showing an "ugly " guy and another blank. I only got responses from the "handsome" picture. Almost all were women that the ugly guy might have considered being seen with. Now love and lust come in strange packages, I will admit that and heck, I have known large women I have lusted after for what was inside them. That said, for them to NOT respond to the words, the SAME words, not until they were tied to a handsome face is hypocritical and far more shallow than men who at least have the integrity to admit looks matter. So, lets see where this thread goes other than a flame fest against me for pointing out the fat elephant in the corner. Why must anyone explain or justify the reasons we find others attractive ....I can't justify to you why I like ketchup on my scrambled eggs....I just do....I can't tell you why I prefer tall attractive men....I just do....am I going to respond to a short ugly man...probably not as a future Dom.... because of his looks...but as a friend I would....but why would I waste his time or mine leading him on to believe there might be more....I can't be intimate with someone I am not attracted to...just as I don't like scrambled eggs without ketchup....to some that is shallow....but to me...it's honest....and I think if people were more honest...we wouldn't feel the need to justify.....

wild1cfl -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 7:19:11 PM)
Hey I like Tabasco sauce on my scrambled eggs and I am a Chef so I know better LOL (just Kidding)

Skier -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 7:21:41 PM)
I implore everyone to make sure that you lead a healthy lifestyle. That means moderate exercise and sensible eating. Over 300,000 people in the U.S. die prematurely every year because of being overweight. That's one hundred 9-11's. This isn't about BDSM, but you will be more attractive/handsome to many more people and it's something that's within your control (if you're honest with yourself).

slavejlb -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 7:34:49 PM)
hey i am finally being talked about i old, and have the grey hairs to prove, i am short and getting shorter with age, and i am fat, i have a scale that tell me one person at a time. so thank you take care and be safe

Owned1 -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 7:38:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Skier I implore everyone to make sure that you lead a healthy lifestyle. That means moderate exercise and sensible eating. Over 300,000 people in the U.S. die prematurely every year because of being overweight. That's one hundred 9-11's. This isn't about BDSM, but you will be more attractive/handsome to many more people and it's something that's within your control (if you're honest with yourself). Thanks for the info however this is not the why are the subs all fat/am I fat/can you love me when I am fat thread. It is a rather different spin on a similar type of thread however it is different. Owned

Mavis -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 7:57:18 PM)
Anyone notice that the thread title is "Fat, old, or ugly submissives" if Y/you're on pages 1-4 and 6+ BUT if Y/you're on page 5.. it's entitled "Drop and give me 20". WTF?

Najakcharmer -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 8:07:43 PM)
There's a couple things in a profile that invariably catch and hold my attention. Specifically: sci-fi/fantasy gaming geek or actively involved in some aspect of fandom (eg, goes to DragonCon, looks good in Ren Faire/SCA wear, is a filker, etc), or otherwise sharing some of my real life non kinky interests. As for looks, I like long hair and am a serious fetishist for medieval/fantasy/SCA/Ren Faire clothes. If a guy looks good in that kind of gear (and larger guys certainly can), I will find him attractive. I do require a degree of committment to fitness and health in order to spend time with a person, though the results don't need to be instant. I don't mind a partner who is overweight, but I would have a very hard time being with someone who smoked heavily, drank a lot of alcohol and/or ate unhealthy junk food. I try to stay committed to my own physical, mental and emotional health and it's difficult to stay healthy if your partner eats a juicy Big Mac and crispy fries in front of you while you have to stick to a grilled chicken salad. So for the sake of my own health, I don't want to eat with someone who makes unhealthy food choices. It's just too painful to watch (and smell) at close range when I can't have any. I will go and take my meals somewhere else rather than be subjected to temptation that is not good for me. That would certainly be awkward if I was spending a lot of time with someone, so one of my criteria for a partner has to be a real interest in eating healthy.

Owned1 -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 8:10:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mavis Anyone notice that the thread title is "Fat, old, or ugly submissives" if Y/you're on pages 1-4 and 6+ BUT if Y/you're on page 5.. it's entitled "Drop and give me 20". WTF? I noticed that but just ignored it, weird karma I guess Owned

MistressLorelei -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 8:26:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Skier I implore everyone to make sure that you lead a healthy lifestyle. That means moderate exercise and sensible eating. Over 300,000 people in the U.S. die prematurely every year because of being overweight. That's one hundred 9-11's. This isn't about BDSM, but you will be more attractive/handsome to many more people and it's something that's within your control (if you're honest with yourself). I would agree with you on the importance of a healthy lifestyle. But a lot of things many of us do every day are dangerous. Riding in a car is riskier than a bad diet and sedentary behavior... yet, it's a risk most of us take. Some of your leisure preferences, skiing, travel and horseback riding are riskier than many other sports and hobbies you could choose, but you wouldn't expect anyone to criticize or implore you to alter your behaviors for the sake of safety/health. I only checked your profile, as your skier name got me thinking. Again, I agree with you.... people can and likely should make healthier choices, but it's their choice, just like it's your choice. Probably lack of common sense at all levels endangers more of us than anything.

eruditegirl1 -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 8:26:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slavejlb hey i am finally being talked about i old, and have the grey hairs to prove, i am short and getting shorter with age, and i am fat, i have a scale that tell me one person at a time. so thank you take care and be safe You are awesome!!!!!

GeekyGirl -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 8:37:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer There's a couple things in a profile that invariably catch and hold my attention. Specifically: sci-fi/fantasy gaming geek or actively involved in some aspect of fandom (eg, goes to DragonCon, looks good in Ren Faire/SCA wear, is a filker, etc), or otherwise sharing some of my real life non kinky interests. As for looks, I like long hair and am a serious fetishist for medieval/fantasy/SCA/Ren Faire clothes. If a guy looks good in that kind of gear (and larger guys certainly can), I will find him attractive. I do require a degree of committment to fitness and health in order to spend time with a person, though the results don't need to be instant. I don't mind a partner who is overweight, but I would have a very hard time being with someone who smoked heavily, drank a lot of alcohol and/or ate unhealthy junk food. I try to stay committed to my own physical, mental and emotional health and it's difficult to stay healthy if your partner eats a juicy Big Mac and crispy fries in front of you while you have to stick to a grilled chicken salad. So for the sake of my own health, I don't want to eat with someone who makes unhealthy food choices. It's just too painful to watch (and smell) at close range when I can't have any. I will go and take my meals somewhere else rather than be subjected to temptation that is not good for me. That would certainly be awkward if I was spending a lot of time with someone, so one of my criteria for a partner has to be a real interest in eating healthy. Bravo! (By the way, nice to see another fantasy/gamer type person!) Personally a person's eating choices are far more important to me than how thin they are. I eat so much healthier than my skinnier friends that it's sickening! I'd just soon hang around someone who is heavy but tries hard, as opposed to some of my skinny "I eat whatever I want and stay thin" type friends. Something that really gets my goat is when a person comes on here raging about how "unhealthy" it is to be heavy, while they find no problem dating a smoker or drinker. Kind of makes you wonder doesn't it? I know I'm a heck of a lot healthier than some of my skinny friends who smoke and drink, so as long as I'm making an effort to eat right and exercise I'm not going to stress over being a bit heavy.

TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 8:47:04 PM)
OK..this reminds me of a joke I read this past week..let me give it a shot..but please dont flame I soo suck at jokes...here goes...Garfield is standing there holding his belly and he states.."I am not FAT!...I simply have been filled with SO much intelligience that my brain ran out of room so it had to migrate to the rest of me!".."Thats my story and I am sticking to it!!!"..Tempting

WhipTheHip -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 8:48:23 PM)
I find the reaction to the OP funny. The person who posted it merely pointed an obvious truism, the hypocrisy of many women who claim men are superficial, but who are in fact just as superficial. There is nothing wrong with caring about the looks of a prospective partner. The hypocrisy comes in when females condemn men for being superficial for caring about physical appearance, when they themselves care about physical appearnace and a host of other superficial factors. Women might fall in love with a guy because of the color of his eyes and the way his nails are always manicured. The thing is most men admit physical appearance and superficial things means a lot to them, but most women deny it. Most women claim they just fall in love, and superficial things don't play a major role with whom they fall in love. 60 Minutes gave 100 women a choice between two guys. One guy was short but very handsome. 60 Minutes told the women that the short guy was a rich doctor with a great sense of humor. All the women picked the taller guy even though his appearance was much worse, he was jobless, and witless. Only when they told the women that the tall guy was a convicted felon did they choose the shorter guy. ================================================== I must not look all that good, since I have hardly gotten any spontaneous messages from any female. =================================================== Weight has little to do with being health consciousness or working out. Some people are naturally more energetic and naturally have less interest in food, and some people naturally have less energy and more interest in food. Appetite and how energetic a person feels depends upon neurotransmitters, hormones like cortisol and adrenalin, and neural and hormonal receptors. People with a very active central nervous system CNS will not gain weightt. Those with a depressed CNS will gain weight. Only a very stupid person would walk up to anorexic and say all you have to do is eat more food and exercise less. It is true, that anorexics would do better if they eat more food and exercised less. Many old people can't gain weight no matter how much they try to eat and no matter how little they exercise.

diamonddreamlove -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 9:05:10 PM)
Wow i am shocked that women would share such attitudes with men or perhaps we should just say simply that some women and some men are shallow. Enough said!

Najakcharmer -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 9:06:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei I would agree with you on the importance of a healthy lifestyle. But a lot of things many of us do every day are dangerous. Riding in a car is riskier than a bad diet and sedentary behavior... yet, it's a risk most of us take. Some of your leisure preferences, skiing, travel and horseback riding are riskier than many other sports and hobbies you could choose, but you wouldn't expect anyone to criticize or implore you to alter your behaviors for the sake of safety/health. I only checked your profile, as your skier name got me thinking. For me personally, it's not about judging other people, it's about making choices that are important to my personal health. I don't care if other people choose to smoke or drink heavily or eat junk food. I just hate cigarette smoke, I find drunk people equally unpleasant to be around, and I don't want to subject myself to the temptation of seeing and smelling junk food when I choose to eat healthy. So basically it's all about me. [8D] My profession is a risky one, but it's my choice and I'm not impacting anyone else with what I do. I would understand the choice of a prospective partner who didn't want to date me because of my risky profession. I do lay it out right up front that I could very possibly not be coming home from any given day on the job. My safety record so far is very good, but that doesn't change the inherent risks of the profession itself.

Najakcharmer -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 9:27:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip I must not look all that good, since I have hardly gotten any spontaneous messages from any female. Well if you were in my neck of the woods and a sub, we'd talk since we appear to share some real life interests, but the answer would be no to both questions. The chances are smaller that somebody who is in your physical area who is of a complementary D/s orientation will see your profile. If someone outside your area and/or of the wrong orientation sees your profile, you are unlikely to get a response no matter what they think of your looks. So it might not have nearly as much to do with your looks as it does your demographics. My main profile pic is, on purpose, an older one from before I was so successful with my efforts at body recomposition. Anybody who doesn't want to talk to the me of 40-50 lbs ago is not someone I have any interest in talking to now. quote: Weight has little to do with being health consciousness or working out. What you put in your mouth and how much you exercise has a heck of a lot to do with your weight and body composition. It may make you feel better to deny the basic truth of this equation, but it doesn't change the facts. quote: Some people are naturally more energetic and naturally have less interest in food, and some people naturally have less energy and more interest in food. Appetite and how energetic a person feels depends upon neurotransmitters, hormones like cortisol and adrenalin, and neural and hormonal receptors. People with a very active central nervous system CNS will not gain weightt. Those with a depressed CNS will gain weight. Sure, all these things are factors. But what you choose to put in your mouth and how much you choose to exercise are also factors, and they are very very important ones. Some people have fewer choices than others due to medical issues, but everybody has some choices that they can make for their own health and fitness. Or not.

Najakcharmer -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 9:29:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl (By the way, nice to see another fantasy/gamer type person!) Cool beans. Do you do Texas Faire?

Homestead -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 9:30:12 PM)
Less twinkies, more walking. Does the trick, but not a lot of fun.[;)]

LeMis -> RE: Fat, old, or ugly submissives (9/5/2006 9:30:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: diamonddreamlove Wow i am shocked that women would share such attitudes with men or perhaps we should just say simply that some women and some men are shallow. Enough said! SOME being the key word here, thank you!

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