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ORIGINAL: Rover

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ORIGINAL: Carrianna

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ORIGINAL: Rover

The difference is obvious... cash.  Beyond the usual legal minefield inherent to BDSM, once there is a monetary exchange the issue of prostitution becomes salient.  And while you and I may understand and appreciate the difference, the legal system does not.
 
John

Prostitution is to offer payment for sexual intercourse, financial slavery is giving money because they want to show how committed they are to you.

I personally don’t see a problem with this, if someone wants to show me how submissive they are by sending me money carry on, I wont stop them, well maybe just to count each note or kiss each note.  Just being honest.

It really doesn't matter whether you or I see a problem with this.  The authorities see a problem with it.  And like it or not, they don't understand WIITWD all that well.  They see it all as sex, and financial Domination as sex for money. 
 
You and I have no issue.  The issue is with the courts and DA's.  I suggest you take it up with them, and then respond back to us with the progress you make.
 
John

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Prostitution is to offer payment for sexual intercourse, financial slavery is giving money because they want to show how committed they are to you.

... and they are commited for what reason..

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ORIGINAL: DecadentGoddess

I find it offensively hypocritical that Collarme.com disallows financial fetishes from being referred to on a site that purports to be BDSM in nature.

As a lifestyle Domme and Financial Sadist, with a bevy of souls whose fetish is serving me financially, I ask you, what difference is there between a whip and a checking account number?

The premise may be different, but the philosophy is the same.  In my opinion, at least.

Share yours?

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

A checking account number would be very tacky.
It'd be like me offering a sub in here "$400 for some fun."

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ORIGINAL: DecadentGoddess

I find it offensively hypocritical that Collarme.com disallows financial fetishes from being referred to on a site that purports to be BDSM in nature.

As a lifestyle Domme and Financial Sadist, with a bevy of souls whose fetish is serving me financially, I ask you, what difference is there between a whip and a checking account number?

The premise may be different, but the philosophy is the same.  In my opinion, at least.

Share yours?

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

Perhaps you'd want to educate yourself as to what the FSC is before you go making snide little comments about it. 

They are *not* a BDSM-exclusive organization.  They're one of a few organizations involved in a challenge against the 2257 legislation (concerning censorship of internet sites containing obscene materials like photos and thoughts and words) and it's effect on adult sites.  They are not taking on cases of individual professional practitioners, rather, representing a class.  To be included in on the class action that was being taken, adult-oriented businesses had to become partner members by a certain date.

Taken right from their site: http://www.freespeechcoalition.com
Free Speech Coalition is the trade organization of the adult entertainment industry. Its mission is to safeguard the industry from oppressive governmental regulation and to promote good business practices within the industry.
 
What is interesting to me is that as an organization, FSC has drafted an ethics and best practices document.  Perhaps dominas who do these sorts of things professionally and feel a sense of entitlement should come together and do the same to increase the integrity of their practices.  (There's already a group headed by Sabrina Belladonna with it's own advisory board called Prodomination that could probably begin this sort of thing.  They've got a legal defense fund and website in place.)

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For me, the problem is a little different. Personally, if people want to pay money as a type of domination, that's great for them. I really don't care. But let me kind of explain how it's been happening here, at least from my perspective.

Many, and I mean MANY times, a woman has written me out of the blue, saying she was quite interested in something I wrote either in my profile or on the message boards here. I get a lot of that, so that's always a cool thing. Every now and then, a woman will indicate a personal interest in me during initial conversations. And that sounds great.

Then, after back and forths that go on for a week or so, I start to get the "I'm into financial domination, so we need to establish a payment schedule before we can continue" vibe. In some cases, it happens after the first back and forth communication. Other times, it happens as the FIRST communication she sends me. But the times that bother me more than anything are the ones where we actually appear to be establishing a real bond between us through mutal back and forth communication. Then, it turns into the "financial fetish."

To me, this is where the line blurs and the rationalization for the original condemnation seems to be obvious. Yes, we can talk about how people in the best case scenario should know better, and that no one is making anyone pay anything, but what actually ends up happening in these circumstances is that people take advantage of submissives who are trying so hard to make a real world connection, that once they break down their guard, they go forth and do what would have normally been caught in the initial guard (before she wore him down by making him feel there was something real and special there).

I get these contacts ALL THE TIME, and I'll let you in on a little secret: Even though I've been around the block and few times, and even though I have a massive amount of knowledge about how this sort of thing works, almost every time I find myself thinking to myself: "Might this really be worth it?" This is right before my common sense kicks in and I regretably delete all such contacts from that person. But that's what they're playing on. They're breaking us down to the point of where we are vulnerable enough to make such a stupid move, and they're very good at it, because they showcase themselves as EXACTLY what we've always been searching for.

This is why I think the owners of this site made the decisions they did about this. And I don't have a problem with it a bit because what the OP is using as an argument is that ONE person is being honest, which allows the MANY people who are not to benefit from lack of any controls whatsoever.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

A checking account number would be very tacky.
It'd be like me offering a sub in here "$400 for some fun."

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ORIGINAL: TopinPa

This site is one of three BD/SM websites I frequent and it’s clearly the most excepting of the three. Just the mention of what’s been talked about here would have been reason to lock this thread on at least one of and maybe both the other sites. That said, what is it about the subject of money you don’t think has been accepted?
I mean, clearly prostitution is a fetish and I think a pretty common fetish among many of us. Yea the exchange of money for sex is illegal in all but one state in the U.S. that I’m aware of but a LOT of other things most of us do is illegal as well. I am new to the forums on this site but as I said, given what’s already been mentioned in this thread I don’t see where collarme has not been accepting.

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ORIGINAL: Stunning

Prostitution is illegal. Is that basic enough for you?

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If indeed, CM does stand with the FSC "on the frontline against censorship", then why would they censor anything from their site?  It's COMPLETELY hypocritical. 

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ORIGINAL: DecadentGoddess

I find it offensively hypocritical that Collarme.com disallows financial fetishes from being referred to on a site that purports to be BDSM in nature.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

Greed is just so vanilla.