Termyn8or
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Well well well, life is strange.
Mod 11 did consider what I said to be a threat "What if I get my hacker friends". I would like to assure you all that this is something that will never happen. She also mentioned that if I made another "stupid threat" like that again I would be out of here.
Here's what is strange. Even though I think she got down on me for no good reason, at least at the time, I DO appreciate that a threat to our privacy is taken so seriously. Perhaps I was less than totally cognizant of the venue.
After sleeping on it I do realize though, that there are people who hack sites, this is a kink type venue, and exposing us and our personal info would be disastrous to some. Even some of the political views could make one a target.
I hope we have this straightened out, even if I had those hacker friends I would not call upon them to do anything to anyone here. I want that clear, and now back to the subject.
Since ModeratorEleven saw it as a threat, I thought it worthy of clearing up. We all enjoy the privacy of collarchat, and I would never ever think of violating that. It was purely hypothetical.
So,,,,
This brings me to another thought, a thought about another online forum. LMU. That our pet name for lockmeup.com's forum.
Eventually they might require ID to get into online forums such as this, a certain post comes to mind.
Nicknamed Tex, this young Lady stated that she was off to college and her Parents insisted she wear a chastity belt. She also out and out stated at the beginning that she was 17. There were a slew of replies before the moderators got even a chance to kill it.
This could be dangerous, just because of the venue. In that particular thread there was no references to anything that would be deemed "adult" except as brought up by the OP. Actually I see nothing wrong with the content of that thread, but then that was not the only thread.
Anyway, the carrot and stick was that they were not only paying for her tuition, but an apartment as well, which is a luxury to many students.
The question now is, how do we know who or how old anyone is anywhere ? And just how much does it matter ?
The thread was picture ID remember ? So seriously I can't send someone up to the beer store with my credit card ? It is fully authorized by me, and I trust them. I would not send someone I do not trust.
Also, in the good old days I used to go to the bar with Dad, ALOT, which is why I go so rarely now. At one bar I could drink on his tab even if he was not there. I was also underage, but he allowed it.
Let's say I have a child, 16 or 17, who happens to look over my shoulder and asks "What is that ?" and I say "Collarchat". If I had a child I hope he/she would be intelligent and articulate, and the interest is sparked by non sexual subject matter. Perhaps something political, there is certainly enough of it around !
Let's say the child wants to post, wants an account. I would probably have to say "You are supposed to be 18". So he can't have an account, but then if he has a laptop and internet and his own email how would I ever know ?
What if I let him get on my account but said he must preface all of his posts with something to identify him like "This is son of Termy" ? Would said posts have to be deleted and I get notified not to do this anymore ? If he spoke something pertinant after a bit of reading would he have to dictate and I type ?
The possible scenarios are difficult to comprehend in their entirety. This is all hypothetical as well, I have no children on the books. One possibility is that it is undetected, another is that the little prick just gets on my PC which logs on automatically.
Society's ills are what causes the need for ID.
And missturbation, I must agree with your statement, that you will pick and choose your battles. I understand completely and you probably know that if you read the post of mine, and I can't even remember the title of it ! Dammit ! I think it had to do with the Presidential election. I made the point (well I think) that we have to set our sights a bit lower. If we could just get some congressmen and glory be, some senators on our side we the people could lame duck a quacky President real quick.
And I understand that you are against the national ID, especially the chipped ones. But even the normal ID we have now. It is not it's presence, it is it's use. When you walk into a hospital about to incur a $10,000 bill, it wouldn't be right if you just say you are someone else and hit them with the bill. If you are going to get some sort of benefit from the government, which I am against, but they are going to exist, I think you should be in this country legally.
But lemme tellya, let's forget about the credit card for a moment. You go into Officemax with cash and buy a $12 ink cartidge for your printer. Now suppose for whatever reason you can't use it. They gave you the wrong one, your house burned down as you were on the way home, whatever. (I don't wish that on anyone, it has happened to me).
For whatever reason you go return it. Now when you flipped open your wallet (or purse) and gave them the cash it was "Have a nice day" and you got your change and left. Now comes you again with the item and the reciept wishing to kindly return it in a timely fashion, unopened and unused.
You need picture ID. The guy takes it and props it up on the keyboard for a few seconds and types very fast. That is that type of shit I am against, see, I used to be against taking away driver's rights, but I have loosened up on that after someone did something so stoooopid that almost really screwed me up. Maybe driver's licenses are a good idea, and maybe to open a bank account, certain other things. Like I mentioned, I bet you can buy a house without a picture ID. I haven't tried, but last time I was involved in anything like that I didn't need it.
So where is the logic.
Officemax, Home Depot, all of them, will simply lose business from a certain sector of the possible market, and they don't care. As long as they can send your money home to China as fast as possible they do not care about that scant thousand here or there.
Now I seem to have started a wildfire again. Yes this was another jump through, but really, I shall read this WHOLE thread.
I mean it, I don't understand how I get these things started. I'm almost thinking it is too much. It is nice to know that people share some of your concerns, but I would like to start a thread one day that does not elicit 34 replies per day.
I swear I'll find something. Perhaps the lyrics to "The answer in the end", my latest song. I'll get artistic on yer ass ! Yup.
Just crossed my mind, those lyrics are not yet copyrighted, but I think I will put it up anyway because me posting it first might serve as a common law copyright. It can at least prove prior art.
Yes, I will do that.
Yes, I will do that, this is the last Saturday of the year.
Don't worry, the old controversial me is still here, I just think it is time to relax a bit.
Be well.
T
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