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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/2/2007 7:24:24 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		I uh---------------This is so so so so so hard for me---  OK, FCUKIT! here it is:

I had an Uncle Oscar who dropped dead in a snowbank in Balta, ND in 1942.  First I heard of it I thought it was an epidemic, I moved out to California, no way you was gonna catch me in a snowbank.

Well, California has  earthquakes and I must be a sociopath, because that obvious lie of omission had not bothered me and I can sleep through the things, so I had to move.

Ron

Yeah, go ahead and laugh,  it wasn't your Uncle, you don't care.


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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/2/2007 8:28:27 PM   
OedipusRexIt


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ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66

I have something similiar,they said it wasnt a lie it was an exggeration
of the truth...not really any better.

I dont lie and I expect others to not lie.
If caught in a lie they are dismissed from My life.
I have made exceptions if a person was truely sorry and really goes above and beyond to gain My trust again.

After being lied to so many times I always look for the lie.
It takes a long time before I stop looking.


I thought this was particularly well-expressed.  Sensible, flexible, even merciful.

It isn't an example of unresolved issues or of negativity, IMO.

Benji shouldn't psychoanalyze so much...  Stick to the actual facts.

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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/2/2007 8:33:44 PM   
gooddogbenji


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Status: offline 		But facts aren't nearly as much fun.....

Anyway, opinions will differ.

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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/2/2007 8:35:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

But facts aren't nearly as much fun.....

Anyway, opinions will differ.

Yours,


benji


Happy New Year Benji, and welcome back... missed ya you leaky hound

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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/2/2007 8:36:52 PM   
gooddogbenji


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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/3/2007 3:46:40 AM   
Focus50


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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

As the thread develops further, I'm interested to see those who say "I lied and this is why it's ok".   It does help identify a persons's mode of thinking when they explain their rationalization.

Yes, just as I was interested in your response to the alternative - of adhering to and embellishing any lie once it's out there, as opposed to coming clean.  But since you've chosen to ignore the obviously difficult questions I posed you in post #51, it kinda helps identify your own "head in the sand" mode of thinking and rationalisation when the going gets tough, too!
 
Why did you start this thread; to cultivate validation of your own personal views?  I'm done, you've clearly got nuthin' but stage fright when the spotlight's turned back on you.... <yawn>
 
Focus.

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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/3/2007 3:57:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I noticed this also, I wonder what the real point of all this is?

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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/3/2007 8:59:07 AM   
OedipusRexIt


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ORIGINAL: Focus50

quote:

ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

As the thread develops further, I'm interested to see those who say "I lied and this is why it's ok".   It does help identify a persons's mode of thinking when they explain their rationalization.

Yes, just as I was interested in your response to the alternative - of adhering to and embellishing any lie once it's out there, as opposed to coming clean.  But since you've chosen to ignore the obviously difficult questions I posed you in post #51, it kinda helps identify your own "head in the sand" mode of thinking and rationalisation when the going gets tough, too!
 
Why did you start this thread; to cultivate validation of your own personal views?  I'm done, you've clearly got nuthin' but stage fright when the spotlight's turned back on you.... <yawn>
 
Focus.



Ouch!  Now I feel so sorry that I made you post.  Shame on me!   Please don't cry!

Didn't read your post.  Never do.  You don't make much sense to me.  You're entitled to your opinion, however ill-informed and idiotic it may be.  I'm entitled to my own tastes and preferences, and you fall well below the line in intellect.

Why does anyone start a thread here...?   Because it reveals the thoughts of others.... even the dissonant ones.



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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/3/2007 10:06:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		YAY!!!  Flaming!

I HATE  YOU ALL AND YOU CAN LICK MY SWEATY LEFT NUT, YOU BONER BITING BASTARDS!

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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/3/2007 12:25:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

YAY!!!  Flaming!

I HATE  YOU ALL AND YOU CAN LICK MY SWEATY LEFT NUT, YOU BONER BITING BASTARDS!

Yours,
benji


Now benji...does someone have to call Carlos the Dog Whisperer for you?  Down, boy...

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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/3/2007 12:46:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

I have had the odd experience, repeated numerous times, wherein the person to whom I'm speaking says, quite blithely "Oh, I lied about that in my profile".

I find this odd because knowing someone lied to me is a major turnoff and almost always results in a complete lack of interest on my part.

Why lie, first of all, and then, worse yet, why admit you've lied?  Does "everyone do it" so it's "OK"?  Not in my book.

I'd be interested to hear thoughts from people (at least those who don't profess to KNOW better than anyone) as to whether they've had this experience and what reaction it provoked in them.

Knowing the forums, someone will "explain it all" knowingly.  Really hoping to avoid that, and focus on those who wish to relate the actual experience and their actual reaction...


I think a lot of what goes on in terms of "lying" is wrong.  But as stated, there are times when the lie told is inconsequential (such as not putting your real town of residence in your profile).  Sometimes, the lie told is about something more vital and yet, the reasons behind the lie are still valid (the man who has to lie to his wife because of her mental state).

I told the truth to my ex about who and what I am before the divorce.  Guess what?  She outed my BDSM/D/s inclinations...anyone care to venture what that did to my business in a small town?  Anyone care to speculate as to how much fun the court-ordered psychosexual evaluation to prove "that my BDSM and D/s inclinations were not a danger to our unmentionables"  was?  But...we're always supposed to be honest with those close to us at all times...right?

Should you be honest?  As much as you can be, every day, with every one....GIVEN their need to know, the importance of what you are being asked about, who the person is and what your relationship is / hopes-to-be-in-the-future with them.  If you are being asked about your height by a man or a woman you hope to meet face-to-face some day...hell yes, why lie?  If you are being asked about whether or not you've ever been sexually molested when you were young by a nosy friend...a very personal issue in MOO...then what you decide to tell them, after consideration of whereall it might lead, is your choice.  Choosing to tell someone like this no when the answer is yes would not meet with condemnation in my eyes.

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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/3/2007 1:44:09 PM   
Focus50


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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

quote:

ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

As the thread develops further, I'm interested to see those who say "I lied and this is why it's ok".   It does help identify a persons's mode of thinking when they explain their rationalization.

Yes, just as I was interested in your response to the alternative - of adhering to and embellishing any lie once it's out there, as opposed to coming clean.  But since you've chosen to ignore the obviously difficult questions I posed you in post #51, it kinda helps identify your own "head in the sand" mode of thinking and rationalisation when the going gets tough, too!
 
Why did you start this thread; to cultivate validation of your own personal views?  I'm done, you've clearly got nuthin' but stage fright when the spotlight's turned back on you.... <yawn>
 
Focus.



Ouch!  Now I feel so sorry that I made you post.  Shame on me!   Please don't cry!

Didn't read your post.  Never do.  You don't make much sense to me.  You're entitled to your opinion, however ill-informed and idiotic it may be.  I'm entitled to my own tastes and preferences, and you fall well below the line in intellect.

Why does anyone start a thread here...?   Because it reveals the thoughts of others.... even the dissonant ones.

Lol, one of the key elements in getting anyone to dance is to play the right music.... *wink*  Yeah, I was "done" here, I know.... lol
 
But I'm "ill informed"; "idiotic"; "don't make much sense"?  *gasp*  Yet I don't even know you - how long has all this hostility been festering?  Surely you couldn't be that other dom of the same age; same nationality; same avatar and with the same delusions of grandeur which manifest as petulance whom I shredded over in the 'references' thread, could you?
 
While this ingracious vitriole isn't quite the badge of honour Lordodiscipline bestowed on me when he labelled me a "Francophilic xenophobic isolationsist", it's a keeper for the scrap book nonetheless.  Certainly your reply has revealed much about your own self and intellect, too - and very publically, you exhibitionist, you!
 
Twas absolutely my pleasure....
 
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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/3/2007 2:43:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Focus, I doubt Oedipus has any notion of what Aussies think of as "debate" and what our standards are, but I'm glad you're elucidating by example for him.  Nice to see your own version of "parliament Question Time" from the ABC in this thread.

I say that in a wholeheartedly complimentary/non sarcastic fashion.  I imagine you are as much a fan of Blackadder seasons 2,3 and 4 as I am, LOL.

< Message edited by HatesParisHilton -- 1/3/2007 2:46:24 PM >

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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/3/2007 3:14:36 PM   
Focus50


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Nice to see your own version of "parliament Question Time" from the ABC in this thread.

And yet I'd really have preferred discussing his actual topic.  Even MP's feel (even though they actually are) obliged to give some answer to relevant questions!  Never been to the US but I doubt cowardice, evasion and vitriolic rhetoric are cultural differences.  Their 'smoke and mirrors' is our 'piss and wind'.... <shrugs>
 
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RE: Admitting You Lied - 1/3/2007 3:32:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		And yet I'd really have preferred discussing his actual topic.  Even MP's feel (even though they actually are) obliged to give some answer to relevant questions!  Never been to the US but I doubt cowardice, evasion and vitriolic rhetoric are cultural differences.  Their 'smoke and mirrors' is our 'piss and wind'.... <shrugs>

I'd have to disagree with that in its "en toto" context as you presented it (albeit agreeing in essence).  Lib MP's have dodged direct Q's RE realistic effects of the AWA's for months, both in Parl House and on Lateline.  They put up straw men and distract from issues half the time and NEVER anser "yes or no" to a direct "yes or no" question which is as callous and cowarldy and obvious a dissemblage as you or I could ask for.

As for seppo versus ocker versions (wink), again I see where you are coming from, but I spent half my life in the Great Seppo Expanse, and once you've lived there that long through THREE administrations, you realize it's not as cut and dried as you presented it.  Honestly, the Lying Styles and the reasons for enacting them are VERY different once you've lived under them both.

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