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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 7:48:55 PM   
classykindasassy


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Status: offline 		OK, some people are getting riduculous here. The lady is looking for help, not your arrogant impatience. If ya don't want to help, take it someplace else - flaming is not called for here.

My dom doesn't want me to lose weight, but he does want me to be healthy, and since I am naked in public A LOT, I would like to be a bit smaller. He bought me a membership to the Y, and I am going to feel like an ass if I don't use it! They track by computer when you go in and what you do on your workout. He has inspired me by fighting his way back from partial paralysis. I also got inspired when I saw a ballroom dancing show recently and saw how incredibly sexy the dancers were.

I think because he is not there with you, you are going to need to reach down inside and find inspiriation and a dream of your own. Maybe you feel hopeless because things have never worked before. But you are different now. BDSM is a rigorous sport. Are there activities you want to do and can't because they would compromise your health? I know I am preaching to the choir when I say that your diabetes will progress, and will limit your ability to play the way you'd like.

I noticed you said "you tend to work 50-60 hrs a week". Does this mean that you have a choice? If you do, I'd suggest that working that much is going to really crowd out the opportunity to exercise in ways that work. I'd try to back off some so that you don't exhaust yourself. Until you build up your stamina, it is going to be a lot of work.

Here are some other incentives I have. My dom is incredible at suspension with rope. We ran into problems because of my physical condition and it became too painful to be suspended. One of my aims is to be able to get back up there and fly, because it brings joy to both of us.

I also want to be able to work a pole like I used to. Let's face it, gravity rules.

I cannot hold myself to a rigorous diet. Cut back a little? Yes. But denial? Nope. I have to burn more so I can eat like I like. And the healthier I get the easier it is to choose Souper Salad than Star Pizza.

Unless you are doing this for you, he is not going to be able to support you enough. He can hold you accountable to a degree, but you have to be the strong one. Make HIM win. Rewards like a piece of fetishwear, or a special toy, when yo meet milestones - set several milestones and rewards. Service oriented penalties may also reinforce - you know best what kinds of service he loves best and you have to really suck it up to do.

I hope this helps in some way.





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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 7:48:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterGremlin

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ORIGINAL: MaryT

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ORIGINAL: asassylilslave

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It's what dom's are for.


that's absolute fucking BS


That struck me as odd too and rather dehumanizing ... similar to "Subs exist only to serve Doms." 



Dehumanizing?

As a dom, I find it my responsibility to be there as a source of strength ...


Bully for you.  I imagine a lot of Doms also are moms, dads, siblings, sons, daughters, teachers, preachers, politicians, nurses, artists, humanitarians ... a lot of incredibly important things that have nothing to do with D/s.  I would guess that very few Doms see fulfilling submissives as their purpose in life ... what they "are for." 

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 7:49:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaMistressa

If you need to lose such a significant amount of weight, definitely consult with your doctor as well.

I do like the idea of you reporting in to your Master with your food journal and weigh ins (actually, that's very similar to Weight Watchers!), I don't like the idea of any punishments being attached to potential lack of progress, but, that's just me. There are always weeks without progress in long-term weight loss, and besides, if you are in any way masochistic, you might start slipping deliberately to be punished!

He can help you by being a strong and encouraging force for you. But you also have to do it for yourself. Best of luck!



I am doing it for myself... and it helps me to know that His concern is wanting me to be around a long time. He told me He finds me gorgeous as i am.. this IS for me. It's about wanting to be healthier, and quite honesty to be able to fit into sexier clothes, lol,
And i should make it clear that this is not about punishment for failing to make progress, i.e. failing to lose so much in a week or a month. I know from experience that one reaches plateaus before starting to lose again. The "holding me accountable" would be for eating things that I know damn well are bad for me.. especially given the diabetes.
But this IS an effort to both lose weight and get the diabetes better controlled.

As for being masochistic and pain punishments not working... actually, it's a whole different mindset for me, the difference between fun spanking and punishment. I hate being punished, cause i hate disappointing Him.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 7:55:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		No one is flaming.  What are you talking about?  Most of us gave her honest advice.  Up to her whether or not she wants to take it.


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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 7:55:42 PM   
cravinspankin


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ORIGINAL: classykindasassy

OK, some people are getting riduculous here. The lady is looking for help, not your arrogant impatience. If ya don't want to help, take it someplace else - flaming is not called for here.

My dom doesn't want me to lose weight, but he does want me to be healthy, and since I am naked in public A LOT, I would like to be a bit smaller. He bought me a membership to the Y, and I am going to feel like an ass if I don't use it! They track by computer when you go in and what you do on your workout. He has inspired me by fighting his way back from partial paralysis. I also got inspired when I saw a ballroom dancing show recently and saw how incredibly sexy the dancers were.

I think because he is not there with you, you are going to need to reach down inside and find inspiriation and a dream of your own. Maybe you feel hopeless because things have never worked before. But you are different now. BDSM is a rigorous sport. Are there activities you want to do and can't because they would compromise your health? I know I am preaching to the choir when I say that your diabetes will progress, and will limit your ability to play the way you'd like.

I noticed you said "you tend to work 50-60 hrs a week". Does this mean that you have a choice? If you do, I'd suggest that working that much is going to really crowd out the opportunity to exercise in ways that work. I'd try to back off some so that you don't exhaust yourself. Until you build up your stamina, it is going to be a lot of work.

Here are some other incentives I have. My dom is incredible at suspension with rope. We ran into problems because of my physical condition and it became too painful to be suspended. One of my aims is to be able to get back up there and fly, because it brings joy to both of us.

I also want to be able to work a pole like I used to. Let's face it, gravity rules.

I cannot hold myself to a rigorous diet. Cut back a little? Yes. But denial? Nope. I have to burn more so I can eat like I like. And the healthier I get the easier it is to choose Souper Salad than Star Pizza.

Unless you are doing this for you, he is not going to be able to support you enough. He can hold you accountable to a degree, but you have to be the strong one. Make HIM win. Rewards like a piece of fetishwear, or a special toy, when yo meet milestones - set several milestones and rewards. Service oriented penalties may also reinforce - you know best what kinds of service he loves best and you have to really suck it up to do.

I hope this helps in some way.






It Does help. Thank You.
You said:  "Maybe you feel hopeless because things have never worked before. But you are different now. BDSM is a rigorous sport. Are there activities you want to do and can't because they would compromise your health? "
YES YES YES
The day after we 've played I feel as if I've been run over by a Mack truck. And there are things I can't do for long that I'd like to.. and flexibility I don't have.
But most of all, this is about wanting to be healthier, wanting to be able to wear sexier clothing, to be honest.

As for working.. No, it's not by choice. I didn't always work so much, but the situation at my job has changed and cause of its very nature i end up having to put in very long hours.
In any case, thanks for your suggestions.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 7:56:06 PM   
MaryT


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Status: offline 		FWIW, and I'm not medical professional and strongly urge you to see one regarding diet, a couple people I know with diabetes control it in part with an Atkins type of diet.  That's the part of what you wrote that really concerned me.  It's nothing to mess with. 

Good luck.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 7:56:10 PM   
proudsub


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Status: offline 		Being diabetic you may want to look at the South Beach way of eating because the way it works is to keep your blood sugar even throughout the day. It is not low carb btw.

As for your Master helping you, i think the best thing would just be to ask for his support, maybe small rewards when you reach mini-goals or have non-scale victories. I don't think criticism or punishment would do anything positive when it comes to losing weight; for me it would just add stress to my life which is counterproductive to weight loss. 

There are also steps you can take to raise your fat-burning metabolism. I just read a great book on that called "Flip the Switch".
Good luck with your endeavour.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 8:01:04 PM   
afeathr


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Status: offline 		I have lost nearly 100 lbs over the last 8 years (about 75% of it over a 2 year span).  Being a nurse, a health teacher and now a former fatty, I think I might be able to give you some salient advice... However, it's totally up to you whether you use it or not.

I would suggest the following:

1) Get out and walk everyday - walk as far as you can as fast as you can EVERYDAY.  Don't bother with making a lot of changes in your eating habits until you have maintained the walking habit for 21+ days.  The concept here: change one habit at a time.  Changing your eating habits will be much harder.

2) After you have maintained a walking schedule for 21+ days straight - talk to your doctor and get on a good Diabetic diet.  They are excellent for losing weight.  Don't go to any extremes (atkins, south beach, etc).  These are *fad* diets and are not always conducive to every person - eat a balanced diet and make sure you are not short-changing yourself.

3) When you change your diet - keep track of your calories (both foods/drinks you consume and calories you expend in exercise).  Get a calorie counter book (I recommend "Calorie King" www.calorieking.com or check your local book store) and pay attention to what and how much you are eating.  I would fathom that you should be eating approximately 1800 - 2000 calories a day... try not to go over that.

You will be amazed at what a difference just the walking will make.  Add on the diet changes (again, wait 21 day AT LEAST) and you will see a significant difference.

Lastly - here is how your Dom can help.  He can praise you for your accomplishments.  Tell him what you are doing, and let him slather you with good tidings.  The best motivation is the results you (and he) will see.  I agree that rewarding yourself is a good thing when you reach some milestones, but truthfully the less you focus on your efforts, the sooner you will see results.  Don't get too hung up on *weight* - look for other signs of accomplishment (pants getting looser, having less difficult walking, not feeling like a "Mack truck" after a session).  You will be surprised to wake up one day and find all of these things changing - but diligence is the key.

Good Luck - it's a hard road, but sooooo worth the effort.  Latch on to a few people for support (been-there-done-that types) to keep you motivated.

Let me know if I can be of any assistance.

PS: I know exactly how your Dom feels about your health, Sir is also extremely overweight and I worry about him too - at times.  We are working toward the same goals for him as well.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 8:03:51 PM   
cravinspankin


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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Ok, from a person who was overweight:

You're automatically thinking he should punish you when you don't loose weight. f


MasterFire, thank You for your suggestions.
I do want to clarify, though. I'm not suggesting He punish me for Not losing weight. I'm suggesting he help me with this horrible habit of putting stuff into my mouth that is poisonous to my body, but still gravitate to.
I know I do it, but can't seem to stop on my own.
With his encouragement, and support, and yes, maybe holding me accountable and providing somewhat immediate (I say immediate, as compared to the long-term negative consequences on my health that doesn't seem to help me avoid them) negative consequences for consuming sugar laden foods, perhaps i can do a better job of avoiding them.

This is really tough, publicly seeking help and admitting my failings.
I really need help and i'm hoping to find a way that he can best provide support and help.


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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 8:09:37 PM   
curiouspet55


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Status: offline 		In response to an above post, it is highly unlikely that you will lose 100lbs in a year. Usually, you will lose 3lbs a week for the first month, 2 for the second, then it will level off to one a week. This is relying on exercise 3x a week for 30 min (at least) of cardio activity and eating healthier.

I reccomend buying The Biggest Loser book because it has ways to determine calorie intake and exercise habits based on YOU not on society and fads.

As for how he can help you, I have no experience with this, but I can appreciate where you are coming from. It helps to have encouragement, a motivation to be on track. One suggestion is rather than journaling it, have him call you at different times during the day and ask what you've eaten. Holding you responsible for it and talking about it can get you thinking about it more, which will keep you on track.

If anything works well, please let me know!

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 8:22:16 PM   
HatesParisHilton


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Status: offline 		1:  do you own a bicycle?

2:  do you have free access to a tennis court?  (many apartment complexes offer this)

3:  do you have access to a large, heavy punching bag?  Hanging, not "on a stick"?

4:  do have access to inexpensive high "output" dance classes for things like Tap or Trad Irish Dancing?

5:  do you have access to a beach over one kilometer in length with soft sand versus "pebbly crap calling itself sand"?

you don't need more than one of these, just one.  I'll wait for you answer before going further.

I'm someone whom managed to lose over 15 lbs in less than three weeks with only health gain, no ill side effects, btw, when over thirty years of age with a SLOW metab .  But most of it involved specific excercise, not diet.  Be wrned, diet is never a magic bullet.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 8:22:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		In my opinion, once this threatens your health, it becomes an issue for your Dom as well as for you.  He cares for you, he cares about you...of course he will become involved when something endangers you.

Some suggestions gleaned from what I have seen work in the past...

1.  Meet with your doctor to discuss the health problems behind your motivation.  Discuss planned changes to diet and exercise, especially how the diabetes will figure in.  Bring your Dom in for this discussion.  If he is going to take an active role in your health he needs the data as much as you do.
2. Keeping a food journal is a good idea, both for your own understanding and as a tool for your Dom.  In my opinion it is more effective for tracking if you are eating good food, than measuring quantities.
3. Eliminate fast food and soft drinks.  I have personally taken 2 notches off my belt just from concluding McDonalds is not food. 
4. Create an exercise plan.  What is appropriate for your current health situation should be discussed with a doctor or personal trainer.  In my opinion no weight loss or health plan is properly balanced without cardio to burn fat and muscle development to keep it off.
5. Be realistic.  A solid health plan will shave the weight slowly and keep it off.  A pound or two a week is a solid sustainable progression.  Weight rapidly lost comes back faster, becuase your stripping off muscle too when you lose fast.  Also note that the exercise will cause you to gain some good muscle weight.
6. In my opinion, your Dom's focus should then be on helping to build and re-enforce good healthy habits.  First, there should be a structure to follow (can't get to where you wish to go without a plan mapped out).  Then there should be both punishment and reward to make the structure a habit.  Both punishment and reward should be tailored to encourage the particular habit in question. 

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 8:25:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm waiting for her reply before I do what you suggest, Vo Reason.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 8:37:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Eliminating soft drinks is an excellent suggestion - forgot to include that in my plan - however, even if you keep them in, you have to figure them into your daily calorie intake.  You'll be amazed at how quickly you will get rid of "empty" calories to increase your food intake.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 8:44:03 PM   
HatesParisHilton


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Status: offline 		won't help sans excercise, the  weight will come back, possibly bigger.

diet sans excercise will NOT work.  for more than short term, and even then, no as well as particular forms of excercise that will take less than 3 times per week at less than an hour each time, and can be done socially with the dom.

sorry, cutting out the beer battered cheese sticks and Mary Callendar's will mean SHIT ALL.

Just trying to help.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 8:47:09 PM   
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I have a suggestion that my Master and I are doing together. We are doing Weight Watchers and it's going great. It is fun having him do it along with me, I won't to get better for him and him for me.  It's easy, you don't get hungry and you eat good food.  Maybe give it a try if it sounds interesting.
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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 9:05:59 PM   
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I think there's been a lot of good advice here.  as someone who has been overweight in the past, and weighing more than what I should currently, I know that it's a long, hard road.  consistency is key...whatever you decide to do, stick with it, no matter what, because 6 months from now you will be better off than if you had done nothing at all.

I asked Master for his help in achieving a particular fitness goal.  but first, before I could ask for help, I had to identify the biggest issues I'm currently facing.  (for me, it's alchohol and sweets)  so while I recognize and accept that the motivation is coming from within, he is helping me modify behaviours that are specific issues.  I can't expect him to be my babysitter, reporting every little thing I eat - I know that will only create resentment in me. 

mind you, it took a few heated discussions between he and I to finally reach this agreement.  it's a touchy subject, for both men and women, as evidenced by prior postings.  eating habits are...habits.  habits can be changed, but it takes work.  you seem very committed, I will be keeping my fingers crossed for you.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 9:58:10 PM   
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I've never posted before but I felt I had to put in my two cents worth. I had bariatric surgery in September of 2005. I had uncontrolled diabetes, sleep apnea, COPD, etc. I weighed over 300 pounds. It was not a decision I made lightly but I am now so happy that I did it. I've lost over 160 pounds. Where once I couldn't walk to the mailbox without stopping to catch my breath, I now go to the gym three times a week. I'm not suggesting that you have this surgery but since having it I have learned so much about eating and maintaining blood sugar.

I personally think the most important thing is to eat protein 5-6 times a day. Even if it's just a piece of cheese or a hard boiled egg. This will boost your metabolism, believe it or not. Going long periods without eating is the worst thing you can do. Your body thinks it's starving and everything slows down. I'm starting to ramble. Please, if I can help in anyway, let me know.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 10:03:16 PM   
adaddysgirl


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Status: offline 		A friend i used to talk with, married to her Master, asked his assistance with her losing weight.  He was glad to oblige.  She started with the diet that does the point system (is that weight watchers?).  She had to keep a journal and they reviewed it each night.  She was honest and if she 'slipped', he showed his disappointment, but he did not punish her.  He also had her exercise in front of him at night (however many nights a week, i can't recall now).  That way he could actually see what she was doing and she felt he was a part of it.  Last i knew, she lost 50 lbs and was still going strong. 
 
i have never been in your particular situation but i liken it to trying to quit smoking.  The day i decide i am ready for that, i would absolutely ask my partner to help me with it.  i am one of those who agrees that is what he is there for.
 
Anyhoo, you may have to experiment with some different things to find one that works for the two of you in your situation.  my daughter (a nutritionist) has remarked that once we get older, dieting is not enough to continue with loss without some type of exercise.  Is there any physical activity you enjoy?  For an example, i'm a dancer and  have always wanted to learn tap dancing and am looking into that now.  Others have recommend walking or the Y....Curves seems to be gaining popularity but it was a bit too pricey for me.  If there's any physical exercise you have an interest in, it will be better than nothing....and it will help if it's something you actually like to do.
 
But most importantly, set a date to start....even if you are not 100% sure how to go about it.  In other words, start with something and see how it works....then take it from there.  Baby steps are better than no steps. 
 
In any event, i wish you and your partner the best with it.  Hope you let us know how it goes  
 
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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 10:25:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn’t read all the responses so I’m sorry if I just repeat what has been said before.  And I don’t really plan to address diet much but I did like MasterFires’ ideas on that aspect.   I do have to say since you do have some heath concerns and you do want to loose a lot of weight, consulting a doctor would be a very good idea. One of my closest friends is trying to loose a fairly large amount of weight and this is the plan she and I came up with.  This is much more about exercise and motivation then diet/nutrition. Month 1 (February)Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday or Sunday (her choice) – 3 days a weekGo for a brisk walk with her dog for one hour in the evening. Month 2 and beyondMonday, Wednesday and FridayGym – one hour of cardio, most likely stair stepper or swimming (she was a high school/college swimmer) then 20 – 30 minutes of what ever other activity she choose and no standing around and flirt does not count.andTuesday, Thursday and Saturday or Sunday (her choice)Go for a brisk walk with her dog for one hour in the evening. We felt it was best to start in stages, first make 3 times a week with the dog a habit, then add the gym, which to her is less enjoyable. But here is the important part we feel…the motivation and punishment…if you will. For everyday she does what she needs to do (3 days a week this month then 6 days after that) she put $5.00 in a jar but if she fails to do it one day her punishment is that she not only doesn’t put the $5 in, she takes $10 out and has to give put it in another jar which will be donated in some way at a later date (I say to me, cause she would absolutely hate that).  So she only makes $5 to do what she needs to do but if she is lazy she looses $15, to us that seemed to be a strong motivator. Once a month she will total up how much she “earned” that month and for every day she did what she was supposed to do a couple of her family members and I have each pledged $1, so potentially she could actually make $10 a day for following the program and lose $20 a day if she screws up, even better motivation. The goal is if she sticks with the program she is going to take her first “real” i.e. Jamaica or the Bahamas vacation over her birthday in September, and if she sticks to the program she’s likely to look pretty damn good in a swimsuit by then. Honestly I don’t think what the motivator is should be import, for her its money, for you it could be sometime entirely different.  What (to me at least) is important is that you reward yourself for making the effort not for the results, because results will likely vary and that could become very disheartening.  However if you continue to make the effort you will not only feel better you will eventually see the results.  My only other advice would be to cut out cokes completely, each time I do I tend to drop about 10 pounds, and I’m not generally what anyone would call over weight.  I have recently made friends with Sprite Zero, and we have been having a good relationship for a while now   You know come to think of it you could probably use the above program to reward and punish proper eating, everyday you eat correct $5 in, every time you reach for the ice cream it’s going to cost you $15.   I responded in quite a hurry as it is after my bed time, but if you have any questions I would be glad to answer them the best I can, please feel free to ask.  Oh and if anyone wants to slap me down because they got the wrong impression or think she should be doing this on her own go right ahead but she is my best friend in the world and I love her just the way she is, but I know she isn’t happy and I would do anything in my power to help her feel better about herself. Kindaeasy

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