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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 10:31:35 PM   
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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/23/2007 10:56:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am an expert at loosing weight, I have hit the 300 pound mark a few times and got back down to 235 like I am now where I feel comfortable. I am a expert at gaining weight also lol. I set a long term plan out, crash diets are a joke they are too strict to stay on. I eat mini meals Mon thru Fri. concentrating on low fat such as lean pockets and yogurt. I eat fruits instead of sweets during the week. This will shrink your stomach which will lower your intake, but you are not starving yourself because every couple hours you eat a low fat energy source. On the weekends I treat myself to what I want to eat and beleive me you will not be able to eat as much as you used to be able too. I do daily walking even if it is only 20 minutes in the mall because of crappy weather. I do a 2 mile nature hike every Sat. and Sun. I worked my way up to it gradually. Drink water to keep yourself hydrated. You said you where Diabetic you should check with your doctor on what you can and cant do with your diet and execise routine for your own safety. I find the long term way loosing the best way, because you will need a new wardrobe in time and you wear your old clothes out first. It is easier to stick too also. This post was longer than I thought it would be, I hope it dont confuse you. Last but not least I offer you my encouragement you can do it if you beleive in yourself. I do not know you, but I am pulling for you.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 9:29:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey sweetbabygirl...nice to see you posting here.

I kind of know what it is you are looking for as I had a similar thing where my previous Master helped me to overcome my alcohol addiction. It isnt the punishment so much as the simply being accountable to Him that makes it sometimes easier to handle and makes it seem less of a deprivation because it is feeding your need for submission.

I have no advice to offer you in this area..but you know how to contact me on the other side should you want to talk. What you are looking for is perfectly doable..but just know too....if you dont meet your goal..I think you are an awesomely beautiful lady inside and out..

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 10:00:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I could think of a lot of things, and a dom could help - cut out all the sugar you can, and as much fat as possible, eat whole grains and vegatables, limit your meat intake to 8 ounces or so a day, perferably lean meat, chicken breast, etc. Use olive oil for sauteeing, if you do that, and sautee at low heat to avoid changing the molecular composition of the olive oil and generating trans fats.

If you only see your dom three times a month, he isn't going to be able to help much, and the burden to stick with it and not cheat is going to be on you. When you cut down on your calories, you're going to get hungry, and hunger pangs can be the most distracting thing in the world - snack on fruits and vegetables, more vegetables than fruit, as fruit contains sugar, eat it mainly for desert, and you can also drink water to fill your stomach up a bit - in fact keep a glass of water around all the time, sipping on it will help with any oral fixations you might have associated with eating.

If you are very overweight, take it easy on the excercise, you can put a lot of stress on your joints, but exercise as much as you can, low impact stuff, walking, dancing, etc. as dieting will tend to atrophy muscle tissue - it's important to keep up with some some sort of physical activity just to avoid losing too much muscle. Sex is good too, and aerobic breathing can actually speed up your heart rate and oxygenation without actually having to expend as much muscular energy. Be careful you aren't just hyperventilating, you might get dizzy and pass out or something, try it while doing low impact aerobics on your hands and knees, leg lifts, etc.

The trick is to speed up your metabolism at the same time you're cutting calories, and in time your hunger pangs should subside, your digestive system will become more efficient, extracting more nutrients from what you do eat, but coaching can help to get you through the periods when the hunger pangs are the worst.

Seriously, you are talking about a total lifestyle change, anything less is just kidding yourself, and it sometimes helps to have someone from outside to evaluate how that is progressing, and crack the whip if need be, there just isn't any painless way of doing it that I'm aware of.

Also, check with your doctor from time to time.


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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 10:16:31 AM   
Aine


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See a Doctor, get referred to a Nutritionalist, and perhaps even a trainer.

Or Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, Atkins, etc, etc....also while keeping up with things with your doctor.

I've heard great things about Jenny Craig and the fact that they have in person consultants and "cheerleaders" perse.

As much as I loathe Atkins, I've seen it do wonderful things for people.  I'm a total Carb Nut from my days as a swimmer.  But I am working on that, cutting down on the enriched breads and pasta and rice (white) and switched to thewhole grain, more fiber and bran and more vegetables, fruit, yogurt is great if you want something sweet and it's all in proportional little servings which is great.  Rice cakes are good for quick little snacks to help the body feel a little more full in between meals.

And having back problems at the ripe young age of 23....there's not too much I can do for exersize at the moment that doesn't make me keel over in pain. Walking is great and the little things that I learned at physical therapy work.  When I do them.

My boyfriend is working on getting a culinary degree.  He loves to cook.  I love to eat.  He isn't a person that -has- to eat healthy to maintain his weight.  He's normally on the -very- skinny side, but since he's joined the navy he's gained weight and muscle, so sometimes it's a struggle to get him to convert to the things that I'm trying to do, and we both have a good attitude about it and we laugh about it.  I'm not going to force him to change all of his habits to be like mine.  We compromise and I tend to substitute things like the pasta,breads and other things for whole grain stuff instead when we do have pasta and whatnot.

The toughest thing for us is our work schedules.  He's on a rotating schedule, and mine is shifting daily.  We don't have 9-5jobs, so our eating schedules are completely shot.  There's no regularity to it at all.  But we try.  The toughest thing is trying to exersize and finding the time and energy to with my off the wall sleep schedule.  Just trying to stay awake half the time is a nightmare.  But I know that if I really want to do it, -I- am the one that has to do it. I know that he's not going to make me do it, because that would put undue stress on our relationship.  He supports me and cheers me on and reminds me of things, but in no way does he tell me what to do when it comes to this.  I think he knows I'd probably kick him. 


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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 10:44:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cravinspankin

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

You prolly don't want to hear this, but I don't know that punishment is going to help you lose weight.  Maybe for a short time, but in the long run, the only way to lose weight is to take in fewer calories than you expend.  So, if you cut your caloric intake by 500 calories a day, you will lose one pound a week.  Cut it by 1,000 a day and you will lose two pounds a week for a total of 100 pounds in one year.  Add in some regular exercise, both for strength training and to tighten up, and there you have it.  I would think that a series of rewards, rather than punishments would work better.  Have your eye on a particularly nice dress or something sexy?  Maybe he could offer to buy it for you after you lose a certain amount of weight.  You really don't want to associate something that should be pleasurable (eating) with something negative (punishment).  You'll end up a closet eater and still won't lose weight.


Perhaps asking for help here was a mistake.
Listen, and look.. I'm seriousy over weight. Nothing I've done all my life has worked, not for long. Do you people really think I haven't tried to do this on my own and hold myself accountable? Do you really think I haven't tried to lose weight by rewarding myself for achieving goals? It hasn't worked.
Surely, there is someone out there who has had a Dominant help them lose weight. I'm just seeking their input. It doesn't have to be a punishment system. It can be rewards. Any methods are welcome. But I'd appreciate some helpful ideas on how to go about this.


On the contrary, I understand perfectly. I went from being more than 150lbs overweight WHILE WITH MY PARTNER ( who also tried everything in HIS power to get me to lose weight ) to losing almost 160 while on my own.
 
If you rely on someone else to do this, it will backfire because the motivation to lose weight ( being YOUR OWN concern ) becomes instead a motivation to please another.


While I do not believe she should lose weight for him, if she doesn't want to, I think you're being mightly close minded and snarky. 

People change for other people they care about.  My grandparents, my ex husband, and 2 of my friends quit smoking for ME.  Having babies can turn irresponsible idiots into responsible parents if they're OPEN to the idea.  She is open and WANTING this, so quit BERATING HER for choosing to get healthier, and having the courage to ask her dom to help with her goal.

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My suggestions on ways he can help you:

Offer you rewards based on your progress, wether it's spending more time together, or doing something special at milestones (10,25,50,75,100, etc. pounds lost) 

Offer rewards based on increased activity (way more effective in the long run than calorie restriction anyway).  X # of hours of working out = X orgasms or something

Exact punishment from you for failure, things you actually WILL regret and remember.

Use a tracking program that summarizes your progress such as FitDay send him your file every week, so he can check your overview progress, see trends, etc.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 11:01:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Since you are unable to be together very much.. there are some good free food, exercise, and weight journals that you can both have the login to..that way he can see things at the end of the day and keep up with whats going on.  It doesn't take much typing and it will keep you accountable (as long as you are honest) for what you have done or not done during any given day.
 
As far as punishments..I doubt that will work, but it's possible.  Maybe a reward system is a better motivation.  Perhaps a new corset after so many pounds, or a new toy for you both to play with.  The bad thing about the punishment part is..that once that is gone, you might not stick to what you have been doing.  I also think that would get like anything else and not work at some point.
 
You have the right frame of mind that you are doing it for yourself.  I am like you and have tried what I feel like is everything out there.  It's not those things that didn't work though..it was me, my mind and me not sticking to it.
 
Until you can break this "relationship" you have with food, it will keep coming back and haunting you over and over.  It's not easy, but you already know that.
 
I can tell you a million different great ways to lose, I can tell you exercises, I can tell you great books to read.... cause I have done them all...what I can't tell you is how to beat the demons that keep you picking up the fork..cause I haven't figured that out myself.
 
I wish you a lot of luck, strength, and courage to get where you are going.
 
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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 11:57:06 AM   
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I have lost nearly 100 lbs over the last 8 years (about 75% of it over a 2 year span).  Being a nurse, a health teacher and now a former fatty, I think I might be able to give you some salient advice... However, it's totally up to you whether you use it or not.

I would suggest the following:

1) Get out and walk everyday - walk as far as you can as fast as you can EVERYDAY.  Don't bother with making a lot of changes in your eating habits until you have maintained the walking habit for 21+ days.  The concept here: change one habit at a time.  Changing your eating habits will be much harder.

2) After you have maintained a walking schedule for 21+ days straight - talk to your doctor and get on a good Diabetic diet.  They are excellent for losing weight.  Don't go to any extremes (atkins, south beach, etc).  These are *fad* diets and are not always conducive to every person - eat a balanced diet and make sure you are not short-changing yourself.

3) When you change your diet - keep track of your calories (both foods/drinks you consume and calories you expend in exercise).  Get a calorie counter book (I recommend "Calorie King" www.calorieking.com or check your local book store) and pay attention to what and how much you are eating.  I would fathom that you should be eating approximately 1800 - 2000 calories a day... try not to go over that.

You will be amazed at what a difference just the walking will make.  Add on the diet changes (again, wait 21 day AT LEAST) and you will see a significant difference.

Lastly - here is how your Dom can help.  He can praise you for your accomplishments.  Tell him what you are doing, and let him slather you with good tidings.  The best motivation is the results you (and he) will see.  I agree that rewarding yourself is a good thing when you reach some milestones, but truthfully the less you focus on your efforts, the sooner you will see results.  Don't get too hung up on *weight* - look for other signs of accomplishment (pants getting looser, having less difficult walking, not feeling like a "Mack truck" after a session).  You will be surprised to wake up one day and find all of these things changing - but diligence is the key.

Good Luck - it's a hard road, but sooooo worth the effort.  Latch on to a few people for support (been-there-done-that types) to keep you motivated.

Let me know if I can be of any assistance.

PS: I know exactly how your Dom feels about your health, Sir is also extremely overweight and I worry about him too - at times.  We are working toward the same goals for him as well.

this is the absolute best advice I have seen so far
 
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  While I do not believe she should lose weight for him, if she doesn't want to, I think you're being mightly close minded and snarky. 


You are of course entitled to think however you choose.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 1:11:45 PM   
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Perhaps asking for help here was a mistake.
Listen, and look.. I'm seriousy over weight. Nothing I've done all my life has worked, not for long. Do you people really think I haven't tried to do this on my own and hold myself accountable? Do you really think I haven't tried to lose weight by rewarding myself for achieving goals? It hasn't worked.
Surely, there is someone out there who has had a Dominant help them lose weight. I'm just seeking their input. It doesn't have to be a punishment system. It can be rewards. Any methods are welcome. But I'd appreciate some helpful ideas on how to go about this.




Hello cravinspankin,

I have a Master that has helped me achieve all sorts of things that I want for myself, such as you wish to.

You already want it yourself, so that's the first hitch dealt with.

You've asked for help from your dom, just as I do, and it works for me.

MasterGremlin's approach is similar to the one that my Master uses.

Our Approach

I ask for help to achieve a goal that I REALLY want.

What would happen in my situation would be that I'd first be asked to write down in detail exactly what I ate and when, in detail, and what exercise I take.

THEN, we'd look at this and decide together, what reasonable changes could be made and an initial plan made. At the same time, we agree incentives......for ME, it's a stick; for others it may be a carrot.

Everything is agreed, nothing is forced on me but from that moment on I am accountable......NOT for results..... but for sticking to my agreement.

It doesn't have to be horrendously onerous for your Master........In my case, a simple question * How did it go at the gym?*.....is something I KNOW I will be asked every day and I know that it's not going to be good to say * Erm, I didn't go*.

If I agree to go to the gym four days a week, then I HAVE to do so. If I agree to only eat one chocolate bar a day, then I HAVE to do so. If not, then I have broken my agreement and the agreed penalty will be applied.

It's important that the carrot or stick actually IS effective AND agreed and ALWAYS applied.

I'd also say that it's important that it's not based on results, but on adherence.

I can only speak for myself, but once a regime or plan is in place and adhered to......it becomes part of routine life, and bit by bit, though the accountability is still there, the need for it becomes less necessary.

One more thing.....My Master is NOT disappointed in me if I don't stick to the *plan* .....but he WILL apply the penalty if I don't.

Regards, agirl

Edited to add....... People vary hugely in the things that they find tricky  and why not make use of a facility that your dom is happy to provide?









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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 1:53:42 PM   
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I am in a ldr and we only see each other 2 or 3 times a month ... Sir helps me stick to walking every morning by waking me at 6.30am and ordering me out of bed ... He then calls me an hour later to see how my walk went. He often tells me how pleased he is with me for getting up and walking and the positive feedback really helps. We have been doing this for a year and most weeks I have walked at least 5 times a week (he sometimes gives me a morning off) and it is a lovely way to start the day. On the odd occasion I miss a week or so (with his permission if I am ill or have early starts at work) and he always gets me back on track.
 
We are lucky in that our work schedules allow for early morning calls - he is always up well before me anyway .... hope this helps and good luck :)
 
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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 2:29:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Getting a workout partner who you're accountable to. They can supply the kind of support that your Dom can't, since he's not there with you.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 4:22:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		He doesn't even know it, but the pride he displays in me when I make it to the gym 5 days a week sends me soaring. 
I haven't been lately, but I aim to be again.  It simply works for me, he gets scheduled time alone, is happy to see me go and happy to see me return.  He unconciously gives massages, compliments, and encouragement.  My own emotional and physical well being is improved by regular activity.  Combined with approval and admiration, it is the best reward it could be.  All this without impetus, without a contract.  I did it for me, to be able to keep up with everyone on hikes or hills or staircases.  he noticed.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 4:31:35 PM   
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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 6:20:29 PM   
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Until you can break this "relationship" you have with food, it will keep coming back and haunting you over and over.  It's not easy, but you already know that.
 


i just wanted to re-iterate this particular point.  i have (very recently) been faced with the fact that even though i had changed many habits to get myself healthier and was quite proud of myself, it was never going to be enough to make the necessary changes.  i had to face the fact that i was dealing with stress VERY badly, and it was detrimental to my health.  i was using food as a substitute, instead of what it's purpose truly is. 
 
i'm still dealing with the totality of my "relationship" with food - i think i will be for a long time.  i have cut back from 2,000 calories a day to staying below 700 with little difficulty.  i don't eat after 7:30 at night, i am eating fruits, vegetables and lean meats, and i eat small meals throughout the day.  i've been successful so far, but i know that it is only because i recognized how poorly i was relating to food.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 7:06:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		For me, the way my Master is helping me is to support me all the way, his support is my greatest strenght and knowing that he is very proud of me.  But above all, i am losing weight for me.......it will never work if you do it for someone else.  My Master is 100% involved in my progress which i have made alot since september and keep doing very good.  He does encourage me without being stressful.. He has set up some exercises that i do every night.  It is not easy, but if you are truly motivated and knowing that when you go to bed each night that you are closer to your goal........its a victory, well for me anyway.

I wish you the best of luck cravinspankin

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/24/2007 10:30:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you, asassylilslave, I appreciate the compliment. :)

I am pretty picky about my diet and the least amount of weight gain (I can even feel a pound or two) makes me a little crazy.  While I know this in itself is not healthy, it's *more* unhealthy for me to be overweight (especially with my former health concerns).  I am, however, a proponent of things making sense - if one does the actual research (and doesn't just rely on what *others* say) you will come to the same conclusions that I have.  It makes so much logical sense, really.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 1/25/2007 1:44:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		This doesn't necessarily involve your Dominant or Master, but, if you chose to do it, it would certainly require his support, I'd think. I have a good friend who had gastric by-pass surgery two years ago, and she looks absolutely wonderful now.

She also had consequent "skin tightening" surgery this past year, because the weight loss had left her with so much loose, extra skin that needed to come off. It is expensive, but fortunately, she works for the state, and her insurance covered almost all of it. Plus, it was easier to justify, since in her case, her overweight really was a health-risk issue for her.

In many cases I've read about, doctors won't do this surgery - unless the patient first "proves they are serious" by losing a substantial amount of weight on their own (she had to lose 50 pounds first, on her own). Also, to "qualify", I think you do have to be at least 100 pounds overweight.

She will always, for the rest of her life, need to follow a somewhat specialized diet (but it's not extreme, or terribly inconvenient), and her stomach size has shrunk, and if she eats too much now, she can really get sick (vomiting, etc.) - this has happened to her, and she finds it very uncomfortable.

Overall, though - she says she'd do it again in a heartbeat, and her own mother had the same surgery done last year, having been encouraged by her daughter's success with it. So far, so good, with her mom's surgery, too.

I have suggested this to my youngest sister, who at 5'8", weighs in at least at 250 pounds, and had my friend talk to her about it. She is considering it.

Personally, I have always been a somewhat irresponsible dieter, so have not much in the way of sensible advice to offer (sorry). I veer from using techniques that seem to be borderline-Anorexia (over-doing things like exercise, and calorie-cutting), to buying this crazy "Hollywood Celebrity" juice-fast stuff at Walgreen's - "Lose up to 10 pounds, in just two days!" (it's only $15, and it works). I should probably be more careful. But, I never seem have to lose more than about 10 pounds, so it really hasn't hurt me, I don't think. I haven't had full-blown Anorexia since high school (with one, short-lived "relapse" in my mid-twenties).

Good luck.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 2/25/2009 9:09:17 AM   
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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 2/25/2009 10:46:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		See a dietician and a nutritionist. Your endocrinologist's office can recommend them. Get those professionals to lay out a healthy eating plan.

Then just account to him as to whether you followed it that day or not. Keep a food journal online so he can see for himself how much extra junk you are sneaking in.

You don't need this to be a punishment thing, you just need to account to him. You simply need to know that he will call you up and ask why, when you craved something sweet, you ate a candy bar instead of the apple in the fruit bowl.

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RE: How might He help me to lose weight - 2/25/2009 10:49:30 AM   
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Here's a thought, why don't you just accept yourself for who you are? Everyone is a work in progress weather they want to admit it or not.
Ive found from experience that most big girls have equally big hearts.


How did you find this thread? You do realize that it is 2 years old, don't you.

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