• The Exchange Diet Plan set for the calorie level the nutritionist thinks it's safe.
  
• Decide what your meals will be in ADVANCE. I plan mine out a month in advance, with one or two separately spaced out days for 'pigging out' for mental health reasons. (I LOVE pizza!) My doc and nutritionist thought it was a fantastic idea and suggest it to their own patients, with encouraging results in compliance. It also helps with grocery planning and budgeting. (Hell, I might set up a website, I've got ideas tumbling out all over the place.)
  
• Establish a habit of some sort of exercise, walking or swimming, daily. Use your ipod to listen to a book, or music, etc.
  
• Set up a praise/reward system with your dom that's acceptable and DOABLE.
  
• Attach new habits with old habits to reinforce the new habits quickly. Takes about 30 days of consistency.
  
• LEARN PATIENCE AND BE INNOVATIVE!

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ORIGINAL: cravinspankin

This is not a question of whether someone should try to help someone lose weight, but how a Dom might do that.
Let me lay it out for you. I am a submissive female, 41, very overweight... more than 100 pounds overweight. There are some health issues involved.
"I" want to lose some weight, to get a bit healthier. I'm not seeking to become skinny. I never have been, and that would be an unrealistic goal.
But I would like to lose 3 or 4 dress sizes this year.
My Dom lives about 3 hours from me and because of our work schedules, and we only see each other two or three times a month, always one day on the weekend.
He raised the fact that he's worried about my health. I was wanting to lose weight and have been trying to eat healthier since the first of the year. But it's a constant struggle.
I asked Him to help me, and He said He would, in any way He could.
I suggested we come up with a way to hold me accountable for what I ate.

What I need, is to hear from other Doms and subs where the Dom helped the sub lose weight. What worked for you? Did you set up a system where you listed all the things you (or he or she) couldn't eat, and the punishment for eating those? Did you have them journal what they ate, and suffer the consequences for not journaling?
I have no idea.. I really need some help here with ways He might help me with this battle. I've been fighting it all my life, and it would be nice to have someone helping me do this, and doing that for the right reasons, as He is.
One note: I am diabetic, I do tend to work about 50 to 60 hours a week right now. And I've thought about punishments that involve doing research papers, etc. about health issues. But I also have carpal tunnel and other nerve issues in both hands. So while I have to type for a living, I do little typing or writing outside that because it hurts too much.

In any case.. I'd appreciate any ideas, especially if it's something you have tried and found some success with. The more specific, the better.
Thanks

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ORIGINAL: CuddlyCreative

I'm a little confused as to why you left out your [what I presume to be] gastric bypass surgery out of your post.  Your journal shows that you'd lost 75 pounds as of December, due to this surgery.  Is it no longer working?  What are the limitations on you because of this surgery?

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ORIGINAL: cravinspankin
But it's a constant struggle.
I asked Him to help me, and He said He would, in any way He could.

I understand the struggle all too well. Instead of thinking of it as a struggle try rephrasing it as a challenge. When I looked at my weight as a struggle it was a burden. Challenges I can handle.

And, I like how you asked for help. Getting support is extremely important. I found it helped to have some friends lined up as well so they can be there to support one when needing to talk instead of eat.

What I need, is to hear from other Doms and subs where the Dom helped the sub lose weight. What worked for you? Did you set up a system where you listed all the things you (or he or she) couldn't eat, and the punishment for eating those? Did you have them journal what they ate, and suffer the consequences for not journaling?

Actually, I found writing in a journal to be of extreme benefit. I wrote out all those feelings I was stuffing with food. I shared them with a Domme I had been in contact with and it turned out that a lot of those feelings were fears related to my feelings of submission, and, as a result of sharing them, I lost weight without even thinking about it because I was not "binge eating" any more.
I've been fighting it all my life, and it would be nice to have someone helping me do this, and doing that for the right reasons, as He is.

Again, mental attitude. Try to think of it as a challenge, not a fight. See what your body does when you say 'fight'. Then see what happens when you say 'challenge'. Do you notice a difference?

Also, another exercise I found useful, look in the mirror and see if you can tell yourself you love yourself. If not, work up to it.

Massage can also be very good for it will stimulate the lymph and circulation and get things moving. When I get bodywork on a regular basis it is amazing how much easier it seems.
One note: I am diabetic, I do tend to work about 50 to 60 hours a week right now. And I've thought about punishments that involve doing research papers, etc. about health issues. But I also have carpal tunnel and other nerve issues in both hands. So while I have to type for a living, I do little typing or writing outside that because it hurts too much.

You have gotten some great words of wisdom from afeathr, VoiceOfReason, scottjk and sparkyRBF. Work with your doctor and if you can, try to visit a nutritionist or a naturopathic doctor. If you are insulin dependent you need to make sure you don't do any drastic things with your diet. Also, as others have mentioned, exercise is extremely important, but check with your doctor before starting any exercise program. Walking is one of the best ways for it is cheap and if you live near a park or nature it can be a most wonderful journey.

You are working 50 to 60 hours a week. Okay, STRESS! A naturopath, chiropractor or acupuncturist would be looking at your adrenals. Stress causes excess cortisol which then can kill brain cells and cause the pancreas to secrete insulin which then causes a drop in blood sugar and then you crave sugar. It's a vicious cycle. Perhaps a meditation program, or something to help you alleviate some of that stress. Again, a journal and reading it or sending it to your Dom would help. And, a holistic healthcare practitioner might even put you on some adrenal support, if they determined that is in fact an issue. It may not be. I'm sure your doctor has checked your thyroid as well.

Remember you are biochemically individual and all those fad diets are just that. You need a diet to address who you are and where you are at. Also, the key is moderation. If you strive for perfection, that can set you up for failure. I found allowing myself that piece of berries and cream cake or chocolate black out cake at this Organic cafe was okay twice a month. If I felt deprived I'd set myself up to binge. I don't keep sweets in my flat. I keep celery and carrots (the latter are not too good for diabetics since they are high in sugar. Again, check with a nutritionist or naturopath.

Also, there are some wonderful supplements that can assist. Number one, probiotics. For anyone who is under stress and has a slowed metabolism they are great are replenishing the internal flora in your intestines, thus helping your immune system and your nervous system as well as helping to balance your pH levels and cleaning up in there so your microvilli can function optimally and you are now assimilating more from your foods. In so doing, you will crave less in terms of the physical cravings. The emotional cravings are another matter. Did I mention support?

EFAs (essential fatty acids) such as flax and/or fish oil are great at helping to get those good nutritious fats into the cells and helping with the craving of the bad fats. Also, a good multi vitamin, again, check with your doctor on this. There are some great ones out there geared for diabetics. Most MDs are not well versed in this area so that is where a nutritionist or other holistic healthcare practitioner can help. (In LA we are blessed with many MDs who incorporate acupuncture, chiropractic and nutrition. One has an acupuncture clinic in her office along with a mini vitamin store. FAR OUT!

As you wean off of processed foods you will find your taste buds coming to life and food will have a most exquisite taste. You will taste the sugar in a piece of celery; apples will seem like the sweetest thing. Your mouth will thank you for this blessed new experience of food. (And apples have pectin, a great fiber which is also good for the body.)

I won't even mention all the supplements that can assist with blood sugar.

I like that you have set a reasonable goal. And remember, when one has been overweight for awhile, the metabolism has become sluggish. Sometimes a cleanse can assist in this by helping to clean out the colon and make things run more smoothly. Also, some gentle liver detoxifiers (milk thistle, artichoke to stimulate bile and liver, dandelion) can kick start the fat metabolism. Some come in kits. Go for gentle, not one of the intense ones. I can Cmail you some ideas if you want.

And, many times, when one is not assimilating food well, cravings will overtake one. I was a strict vegetarian for 20 years and got quite ill. I found that my body does not digest vegetable protein well. I keep trying to go vegetarian, and after a period of time, I start craving carbs like a maniac. So, I get some animal protein and I'm good for a bit. I have the soul of a vegan and the body of an omnivore. I had to accept that.

When one has health issues that compounds the situation. Others can advise you, but none know your biochemistry. I had many well meaning people give me advice, but they did not understand the side effects of high doses of prednisone. The moon face, the bloatedness, the affect on blood sugar. I felt hopeless. Then I decided to take baby steps. Then I took a chunk of my savings to learn a breathing technique that saved my life and helped me wean off of it until I thought I no longer needed the breathing exercises. lol Big mistake. I went back on a low dose of prednisone and will be weaning off soon. The 30 pounds I put on is slowly melting away. Exercise was difficult when I could barely walk a block without getting an attack but I can now use my trampoline 30 minutes with no problem. Now I am almost symptom free. And this technique has been known to help many other conditions. I can Cmail you with links if you'd like.

Perhaps a food journal and how you feel on certain foods will help you. Your body will let you know what foods are best for you. Work with a nutritionist but in the end, our biochemistry will let you now. Your inner healer is inside of you and will guide you, as well as your doctor and anyone else you should choose to accompany you on this journey.

I both applaud and admire your courage and desire to persevere in this. And, I applaud your willingness to get support, for no man or woman is an island.

I wish you the best of luck and holler if you need anything.

Blessings,
TT

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ORIGINAL: kindaeasy69

Month 1 (February)Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday or Sunday (her choice) – 3 days a weekGo for a brisk walk with her dog for one hour in the evening. 
Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday or Sunday (her choice)Go for a brisk walk with her dog for one hour in the evening. We felt it was best to start in stages, first make 3 times a week with the dog a habit, then add the gym, which to her is less enjoyable 
For everyday she does what she needs to do (3 days a week this month then 6 days after that) she put $5.00 in a jar but if she fails to do it one day her punishment is that she not only doesn’t put the $5 in, she takes $10 out and has to give put it in another jar which will be donated in some way at a later date ....

I'm thinking 1) the dog is going to be in excellent shape and 2) the contents of 'another jar' could be donated to the local humane society. 

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

(the thread is over 2 yrs old)

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ORIGINAL: CuddlyCreative

I'm a little confused as to why you left out your [what I presume to be] gastric bypass surgery out of your post.  Your journal shows that you'd lost 75 pounds as of December, due to this surgery.  Is it no longer working?  What are the limitations on you because of this surgery?

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ORIGINAL: asassylilslave

I mean absolutly no offense by this because I think what you are trying to accomplish is a good thing. Only that you are going about it in the wrong way. It is your body, and your health that is suffering; why should HE be holding you accountable in this area? when YOU should be the one holding yourself accountable.
 
If you rely on him in any way to lose weight other than just being there for support; you are removing the burden from yourself and placing it on him.
 
Just food for thought; and simply my own opinion.