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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 1/26/2007 6:46:14 AM

BBBTBW

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Call me crazy, call me financially oriented whatever. It is expected that a live-in slave contribute 100% of his income to the household just as I contribute 100% to the household. My home is not a Hotel with complimentary breakfast, nor is it a Bed and Breakfast INN nor is it a whorehouse. It is a home and if he is to reside here, he is going to contribute financially, physically, emotionally, spiritually, mentally, just as I do. It is my policy to provide my slave(s) with an allowance to meet their professional and personal needs on a weekly or monthly basis. Everything else goes to maintaining the household and extra-curricular activities. It is also my policy to maintain an interest bearing checking account so that if the slave should leave for whatever reason, he will not be destitute or in the event one of us passes on. (I hope this is never used)

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 1/26/2007 7:01:31 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

You know, ShiftedJewel, I'm about much more scary things than money.

I'm about honesty, time, training, focus, energy, committment, active service, obedience, fear, openness, self-control, lossing self-control, self motivation, creativity, spirituality....

My goodness I seem to want it all expect the money, don't I?

That in my experience is far more scary to most wannbes than asking for money.

They can just complain about the money more because its more socially questionable with the shadow of prostitution claims.

Oh the horrors TammyJo!! How can you even look yourself in the mirror??? And I totally agree, it seems to be one of the scariest things out there.

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It is expected that a live-in slave contribute 100% of his income to the household just as I contribute 100% to the household.

And that works great for most people, or a lot of people... hell, it works great for someone... Anyway... It doesn't work for me and mine. I don't work, neither does twicehappy (well, not outside the home... she works her butt off around here though). The ideal for us is to have one that can come here and not have big enough bills to require that they work outside the home. We want them to contribute to the home... emotionally and physically. Money isn't a huge issue for us.

But more times then not I've talked to subs/slaves, mainly male, that just can't do that... they still suffer from that "alpha-hunter-gatherer" thing that says they can't not work and need contribute financially.... then they bitch about it. That's what I'm talking about here... not the ones that willingly contribute in whatever way they can... it's the ones that would complain (as LaTigresse put it...) if they got hung with a new rope... lol

And just so that people understand that we do think about the practical side of life... yes, they are provided for in our will should the unthinkable happen.

Jewel

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 1/26/2007 7:28:28 AM

thetammyjo

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

Call me crazy, call me financially oriented whatever. It is expected that a live-in slave contribute 100% of his income to the household just as I contribute 100% to the household. My home is not a Hotel with complimentary breakfast, nor is it a Bed and Breakfast INN nor is it a whorehouse. It is a home and if he is to reside here, he is going to contribute financially, physically, emotionally, spiritually, mentally, just as I do. It is my policy to provide my slave(s) with an allowance to meet their professional and personal needs on a weekly or monthly basis. Everything else goes to maintaining the household and extra-curricular activities. It is also my policy to maintain an interest bearing checking account so that if the slave should leave for whatever reason, he will not be destitute or in the event one of us passes on. (I hope this is never used)

Did you think I meant that Fox or any slave of mine does not contribute financially?

A slave living with me has the job of making my life easier; not contributing financially will make my life harder, not easier.

So they contribute money to cover what they consume in terms of food, energy, biils, things like this.

However, I have a responsibility to help them become the best person possible. I don't see my taking on the financial burdens as doing that, in fact, I think it creates a situation where should something happen to me, they might be unable to manage finances. Therefore my slaves have personal bank accounts, do their own taxes, and have their own jobs just like I do and my husband does.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 1/26/2007 8:53:05 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

Did you think I meant that Fox or any slave of mine does not contribute financially?

A slave living with me has the job of making my life easier; not contributing financially will make my life harder, not easier.

So they contribute money to cover what they consume in terms of food, energy, biils, things like this.

However, I have a responsibility to help them become the best person possible. I don't see my taking on the financial burdens as doing that, in fact, I think it creates a situation where should something happen to me, they might be unable to manage finances. Therefore my slaves have personal bank accounts, do their own taxes, and have their own jobs just like I do and my husband does.

My reply was not specific to you, it was just in keeping with the thread. Your post was just the last one I read before replying

"wishing collarme would not post who someone is replying to unless they quote them"

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 1/26/2007 12:16:08 PM

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Monetary compensation towards the household should be based on how much of the household expenses that they use. If a slave is a full time, live in slave, they should be paying their full share of the expenses. If they spend several days a week, then there should be some compensation for food and such things. This isn't payment for services rendered but rather respect for the dominant and her household.

I've seen too many slaves that want to be live in, full time, "liefstyle" submissives that balk at being expected to hold a job and contribute to the bills and that, plain and simple, is bullshit.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 1/26/2007 12:16:28 PM

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Hello BBBTBW,

To get around that issue, hit the "Fast Reply" button to the left
of the "Post Reply" button on the bottom left of the screen.
Then address your post as, "Using fast reply, to no one
in particular".

Hope this helps,

Vendaval

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

My reply was not specific to you, it was just in keeping with the thread. Your post was just the last one I read before replying

"wishing collarme would not post who someone is replying to unless they quote them"

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 1/26/2007 12:19:44 PM

sting516

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My issue with the financial slavers or money dommes or whatever you wish to call them is when it seems to be the sole purpose of their 'dominance'...seeing things in profiles like their favorite slave has their wallet in their mouths, or referring to subs as human ATMs...it's then that i really object...anyone who is in a relationship with another must reasonably expect to contribute to some degree to expenses...especially if looking for a live-in situation...but those who expect to be supported really get my goat.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 1/26/2007 7:03:39 PM

BBBTBW

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Hello BBBTBW,

To get around that issue, hit the "Fast Reply" button to the left
of the "Post Reply" button on the bottom left of the screen.
Then address your post as, "Using fast reply, to no one
in particular".

Hope this helps,

Vendaval

thanks, I will try that next time

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 1/26/2007 7:21:15 PM

pixelslave

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyOunce

Monetary compensation towards the household should be based on how much of the household expenses that they use. If a slave is a full time, live in slave, they should be paying their full share of the expenses. If they spend several days a week, then there should be some compensation for food and such things. This isn't payment for services rendered but rather respect for the dominant and her household.

This seems perfectly logical to me!

In a 24/7 situation, if a vanilla couple lived together, most would normally share expenses in some negotiated manner. It wouldn't seem unreasonable to me to expect the same in a D/s oriented relationship.

- pixel

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/17/2007 4:27:46 PM

jamesthehumanrug

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jewel,
both are a committment.
one willing ;the other not trusted ;
the trusted one ,to live under someone, for life and death, forever is thot to be as phony ,or not real ,as the money deal ,unless you REALLY are SERIOUS ? (.... ARE YOU ?!)
....call me(kill me ; whatever!!!!i am here!...waiting ,for you.)!!!!

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

There is sooooo much complaining about female dominants that seek "tribute" or the pro-dommes... Not complaining here... to each their own ok? What about the ones that really, sincerely, are not about the subs/slaves money? The ones that say "You won't be required to contribute financially to the household" or "Your contribution to the household will be minimal" ... I know there has to be a few out there someplace... and those same subs/slaves that complain about us only wanting their money still run like wild fire.... I think they just like to complain... don't you?

Jewel

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/17/2007 10:07:05 PM

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MzMia
You hit it on the head. Most Dommes I know do not have a boy, and after several years of looking I think I know why not.

LS

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/17/2007 10:23:19 PM

Texy

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Personally, I've always paid my own way. I would feel less than responsible if I didn't pull my weight. However, I'm not paying one cent until I live in the house. And btw, I wouldn't complain!
hehehe, fun thread!
chin chin,
gayle

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/18/2007 5:11:35 AM

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It's kind of a venting topic, but I happen to agree with it. The very same population of male subs who complain that there just aren't enough Domme's out there can also be the ones that expect Me to foot the bill. How this ever became a standard practice, especially in the beginning, is beyond Me. If the male subs really think the numbers are so out of the favor, maybe they should try picking up the dinner check.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/18/2007 5:21:59 AM

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As someone who beleives we should all pay our way in this world, these subs remind me of internet fantasists and dreamers. No reasonable man or sub should expect to be kept. I do not believe in going to a Pro Domme, I can not submit that way, it has to mean something to me.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/18/2007 5:32:46 AM

DiurnalVampire

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~fast reply~
I hate putting that, but I dont want to deal with quotation issues.

I agree with TammyJo, my reason for having a slave/sub is to make my life easier. There is no way I could ever have enough to be done around my home with only myself and one slave living there to warrant a stay at hoe slave to take care of it. In order to even be considered for a livein relationship, the first thing I used to say was you would be reponsible for holding down your own job and contributing to the house. Keeping someone is a burden, and not one I wish to shoulder. even when we had discussed the idea of Angel becoming a 24/7 live in with no outside job he was looking into the possibilty of telecommuting from home.
The way I see it, its like a marriage. Most cannot survive on a single income for two people anymore. Why would an arrangement like this be different? Same 2 bodies living off the same one income, the only thing that changes are the titles given to those 2 bodies.

For now, in my home, the rule is you replace what youve used. No one is ever here enough to justify helping with bills or anything like that. Angel will buy dnner or groceries if he is going to be eatting over. The same general rule applies to friends as well. If you finish something replace it. If you dont replace it, you arent alowed to use anything else in my house.

DV

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/18/2007 9:09:26 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

Wonderful topic Jewel!
**clapping hands here**
Could it be that many of the men here want someone that looks great in
fetish ware, has a big toy chest and is looking for someone to "play"
with, and NO committment!
Imagine that!

That about sums it up. I want to look great, work out in the gym 4 days a week for 2 hours at a stretch, ohhhh but wait, I have to work in an office 10 hours a day instead.

I want the ranch to look like a Texas State park, ohhhhhhh but wait, I have to work in an office 10 hours a day at a computer instead.

I want the house to be clean and spotless, ohhhhhhhhh but wait, I have to work in an office 10 hours a day at a computer instead, then work on taking care of the ranch, yard, house, cattle, etc on weekends and evenings.

I don't expect a sub to support Me, but if he wants a manicured, coiffed, high maintenance Domme in exquisite fetish wear he'd better grab himself by the balls and find a way to provide Me with the means.

TexasMaam

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/18/2007 2:58:03 PM

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Pretty much what LadyPact & TexasMaam said

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/18/2007 3:12:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel
What about the ones that really, sincerely, are not about the subs/slaves money? The ones that say "You won't be required to contribute financially to the household" or "Your contribution to the household will be minimal" ...

Fair is fair, and everybody contributes one way or another. I'm definitely not working my ass off to support someone in my household who does not contribute, eg, someone who sits around playing Xbox all day and does not work either in the house or outside of it.

Apparently some subbies imagine that all they will have to do is look pretty in bondage and take a good spanking, and then they will have someone to clean up after them and support them financially so they can lay around and eat chocolates the rest of the time. News flash: real world don't work that way. At least my real world doesn't work that way, not since I've had several bad experiences of this nature.

I'd be fine with the situation Akasha has with a hard working, diligent "househusband" who does not work outside the home but who does have a solid work ethic in regards to making a real contribution of time, energy and effort to the household and the relationship. But no more lazy twits who don't contribute anything except sex and whining.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/18/2007 3:40:12 PM

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Now, I see more and more Dominant women that want a male wife!
LOL that is the way to go.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/18/2007 3:44:46 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

Now, I see more and more Dominant women that want a male wife!
LOL that is the way to go.

Its happening more and more, believe me, lol.

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