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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 9:31:33 AM

stef

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ORIGINAL: MuscleyandCute

I cant find Quixotian in the dictionary lol. What does it mean then? is it some kind of word that only someone who spends their life on internet forums would know?

Since another poster had no difficulty with it's meaning, it appears that it means your education is sorely lacking. At least you're able to laugh at your own ignorance, I suppose that's some consolation. Don't they teach the classics over there?

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By the way the use of your "Sense of self" belies the word egalitarian. So in other words you can't string a coherant sentence together.

The fact that only you found it 'incoherent' should speak volumes here. If you ask nicely, perhaps someone will write it out in crayon using monosyllabic words that you're slightly more likely to understand.

~stef

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 9:39:59 AM

MuscleyandCute

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ORIGINAL: MsKatHouston

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If you want to pass me off as lying and think that all men including me are bullshitters then you just go ahead and do that I really dont care lol. Its your loss.

I don't believe Lady Ellen was saying any such thing. In fact, it reads to me like she was saying pretty much the same as you were, that not all men want to have sex with no emotional attachment. Why all the hostility?

I suppose making a sweeping generalization such as all (or even most) men are looking for sex for free (emotional or financial) is like saying all dominant women (or even most) are only using sex to get the payment (emotional or financial).

Sorry if it looked that way, it was really meant to mean more generaly as in "you all". I did not intend it for Lady Ellen while I hope everyone would realize this knowing that I was saying the same things as her anyway. I guess I should have made it more clear. As for the bit where I say "your loss" that was intended a general message to any women who choose to pass all men off as assholes.

< Message edited by MuscleyandCute -- 3/21/2007 9:52:42 AM >

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 9:50:16 AM

MuscleyandCute

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ORIGINAL: theGuideGoddess

I fully realize in 'replying' to Mr. Muscleyandcute (who is not so muscled and not so cute, jmho) that I will be his next focus to burn.

Here is an observation, take it or leave it, I don't really care. Even when you have been responded to kindly (or that was how I read it) your response was nothing short of nasty and flaming. While you do seem intelligent and possibly have something to offer to that right person your attitude will likely be the thing that stands in your way. You have an obvious bitter undertow and it is hanging out in every post that you have made in this thread. I don't know the root of it. Maybe you don't even know the root of it yourself. Perhaps you are not even aware it exists, but it seems obvious to most here that it does in fact exist. Rather than quickly replying and smashing my head it you may try some constructive introspection to see if there is any truth to what has been said about you.

You say that you will be my next focus to burn as if Im in the wrong yet the rest of your post looks pretty much like an incitement to burn to me by defamation of character via patronizing passive aggression in the guise of help. That is the equivalent of going "Im ok and cool, so you are wrong to burn me" then going off and burning someone.

I have not been responded to kindly, infact if you look back at this thread you will see that it pretty much started the other way round while at the least it is equal from both sides.

You will find that orginally a Domme agreed with one of my first posts, and that was after someone tried to flame me by suggesting I had been burnt by a woman with sexual power which I will add I did not respond to in kind by flaming her back originally.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 11:52:47 AM

thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Sigh....I thought he was McWhips again. Thank you for the heads up, stef.

It's always a pleasure to be of service

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McWhips or Muscley, you state on your profile that "90%
of the dommes are here for the money." Do you have the statistics to back that claim?

Perhaps he's basing it on this premise; after experiencing his sparkling personality, 90% of the women he talks to say "you would have to pay me to do anything with you."

Just a thought.

~stef

stef:
Are you sure you ment "would have to" and not "could'nt"
thompson

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 11:52:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: MuscleyandCute
I dont see why you have to ask about this "wonderfull shit" I have been doing because even looking at a coffee stain on the wall from 3 years ago that looks like an 18th Century soldier with a wagon wheel sticking out of his eye is better than here

If even that is better than here, why are you here? A masochist are you?

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One would have thought that good looking women would be in such a position to be able to not put up with a cheap affectionless man, so they must all just be stupid then?

Hey I'm not one to call women outside of their names, but if your dates are stupid, that would be theirs and your business.

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If you think Im the one who is boring you then look at who has not been on here at all for ages and is only on a small stint now.

What? You appear to have so much potential...
<<<--- *Shakes head saying "what a waste."

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 1:11:08 PM

solvr70

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the goal, now this could be just me here, is to find O/one that Y/you share interests with. no, not just sexual related, but with that mixed in there. such that B/both parties reach new levels of pleasure and excitement exploring those shared interests.

i mean One whispering "how's my bitch today?" in my ear would make my entire day! no physical touching required. lots and lots of mental thoughts and imaging going along. just seeing One in Her leathers (i can't do much about guys being visually stimulated, it's just in there) would do it as well.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 6:13:49 PM

MuscleyandCute

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Sigh....I thought he was McWhips again. Thank you for the heads up, stef.

It's always a pleasure to be of service

quote:

McWhips or Muscley, you state on your profile that "90%
of the dommes are here for the money." Do you have the statistics to back that claim?

Perhaps he's basing it on this premise; after experiencing his sparkling personality, 90% of the women he talks to say "you would have to pay me to do anything with you."

Just a thought.

~stef

stef:
Are you sure you ment "would have to" and not "could'nt"
thompson

Having said that, is that "anything" or "anything except morbidly entertaining him for free on this thread"? The statement is not true as I am obviously significant enough for stef for example to do something pertaining to anything, and for free. cheers

BlkTallFullfig's comment of "If even that is better than here, why are you here?" I will now answer with the rest of my actions in this thread.

You are all the very picture of happiness!

Bye!

< Message edited by MuscleyandCute -- 3/21/2007 6:19:43 PM >

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/22/2007 7:06:40 AM

thompsonx

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Having said that, is that "anything" or "anything except morbidly entertaining him for free on this thread"? The statement is not true as I am obviously significant enough for stef for example to do something pertaining to anything, and for free. cheers
It is quite obvious to the most casual observer that stef seems to enjoy pointing out the flaws in your character as well as your grammar rather than engaging you in something more fun for free.

BlkTallFullfig's comment of "If even that is better than here, why are you here?" I will now answer with the rest of my actions in this thread.
We all wait in rapt anticipation

You are all the very picture of happiness!

I don't know about happiness but she is lookin' pretty hot.
thompson

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/22/2007 12:20:32 PM

SimplyMichael

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I think that the disconnect here is the men who complain about women only wanting money are the same ones who only want 20 something hotties and could care less if they know which end of the flogger to hold. Since they tend to be narcissistic in the extreme they also tend to be deeply annoying and thus the reason they have to pay and then resent it because their narcissism makes them imagine it should be free.

My ONLY issue with pro-dommes is when I feel they are taking advantage of men, regardless of age who just don't know any better. Now for the ones like those above, tough shit and perhaps those are the only ones who pay, I don't really know. It is the sad pathetic ones I have the most sympathy for. Too me it seems like the equivalent of older men manipulating young girls into bed, they should know better and it is unfair because the girls don't have the experience to see the manipulation.

I think it would be interesting to find a pro-domme who offered training who actually had a "success rate" and advertised how many men she had trained and found private play partners for. Sort of how schools list graduation rates.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/22/2007 12:38:54 PM

MstrssScarlet

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ORIGINAL: draba

I am my Mistress's gardener. She refuses to take my money. I work hard for her and often give her plant material. I prefer that so I can plant as I wish. On occassion she will have a new sub come and work with me. She offers four hours of labor for a one hour session. This is very fair. I do not count the hours or nickle and dime her. She knows this and gives me extended time. In the winter when I can not work as much she expects me to come for sessions every 2 weeks, on the house. There have been guys who I have worked with that have complained because they have worked more that four hours and only got 1 hour session time. It is usually like 4 1/2 to 5 hours that they worked. One actually called her up and told her she owed him 15 minutes because he worked overtime. She tells these guys to get lost and never to come back. I think these guys have balls and they should be sent away. How cheap can they be.
I am lucky to have such a good Mistress and I give her good help. I reap the benefits. Why can't these guys see that they need to show some dedication before they recieve perks.
The nerve of them. Now I know why my Mistress tells me I am #1 slave.
draba

I'm familiar with this person's situation and his Mistress is a Pro Domme, as am I. Like his Mistress, I would be content to exchange (quality) labor for sessions if the submissive in question cannot afford my tribute. The problem? No one is interested.
I do have one personal submissive. He proved himself before a single penny exchanged hands and now we have a strictly personal relationship. It IS possible, although unfortunately rare. I will admit, however, that I am very, very picky.

BTW MzMia...there is absolutely no sex allowed in my dungeon. Can't vouch for everyone, just myself. I must admit that you make a valid point, however. One of the reasons I initially turned pro was because I was disgusted with the applicants I saw out there and figured I might as well get something out of it. Guilty on that charge. And yes, there is a significant difference in the relationship I have with them and the one I have with my personal submissive.
Mistress Scarlet

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/22/2007 1:04:09 PM

MistressDolly

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ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet

I'm familiar with this person's situation and his Mistress is a Pro Domme, as am I. Like his Mistress, I would be content to exchange (quality) labor for sessions if the submissive in question cannot afford my tribute. The problem? No one is interested.
I do have one personal submissive. He proved himself before a single penny exchanged hands and now we have a strictly personal relationship. It IS possible, although unfortunately rare. I will admit, however, that I am very, very picky.

BTW MzMia...there is absolutely no sex allowed in my dungeon. Can't vouch for everyone, just myself. I must admit that you make a valid point, however. One of the reasons I initially turned pro was because I was disgusted with the applicants I saw out there and figured I might as well get something out of it. Guilty on that charge. And yes, there is a significant difference in the relationship I have with them and the one I have with my personal submissive.
Mistress Scarlet

Mistress Scarlet - Reading your post, I may as well have written it myself. I completely agree with your entire post except for the part about being disgusted; I was more or less humored.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/22/2007 1:26:20 PM

MstrssScarlet

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Before I get in trouble with my clients, I should say that they seem to prefer a different relationship with me than what I have with my personal submissive. Piecing together what others have said: They like for sessions to be scheduled within their time frame. They want someone decked out in very nice (and very uncomfortable, very expensive) fetish wear. Generally they don't WANT any emotional attachments. One way or the other, everyone pays. Either you invest a lot of time and energy to 'court' your domme or you pay tribute. I'm fortunate enough to reap the rewards of both sides.
Mistress Scarlet

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/22/2007 2:35:35 PM

MistressDolly

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ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet

They like for sessions to be scheduled within their time frame. They want someone decked out in very nice (and very uncomfortable, very expensive) fetish wear.
Mistress Scarlet

When I did it, I found the lavish fetish wear to be very popular with them too.
:)

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/24/2007 10:00:04 PM

Wickad

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Well, I read this thread a while back ... and now it seems to have popped back up.

Unfortunately it seems to have become popular again due mainly to one self-absorbed diva who expects the whole world to revolve around him (please flame away - lol).

I am not currently in a long term relationship with a slave but then again ... I'm not really looking for one right now. I have thought about how I would like to arrange the finances just like I have thought about how I would like to arrange that prospective relationship.

A slave is property. As property, said hypothetical slave would contribute all of his income, if I decided to let him work. I would hope that I would be financially stable enough for him not to work. Either way, he would have an allowance and a set amount of time that would be his own. The rest of his time he would be spent contributing to the household (via duties around the home and/or work outside the home). He would be fed and clothed as I decided, be played with on a regular basis, and have his sexual needs met (though probably not by me).

I do not seek tribute but as an earlier poster noted "I seek all of you". In return, said hypothetical slave, would be 'owned' like the priceless possession he is.

Wickad

PS - guess this is one more of that 10% you were talking about - lol. You'd think with just those folks responding that we'd have at least 15% by now - lol.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/26/2007 11:35:47 PM

Najakcharmer

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Whoa. M&C, I definitely don't want your money, but your sour-grapes attitude is so incredibly unappealing that I don't want you either.

Now what I personally want isn't relevant to you, since I don't live in the UK. But I can't imagine any dominant woman who wanted a caring relationship with a submissive man not being completely put off by the attitude you project in your posts and your profile. About the only kind of response you're likely to get with that kind of profile is the kind that doesn't care, eg, exactly the sort of casual webcam players and money-grubbers that you keep complaining about. Does the term "self fulfilling prophecy" ring a bell?

The kind of D/s relationship I personally look for is pretty much what you describe, but I would never go looking for it in a profile like that no matter how "muscley and cute" he was. It's the attitude that you have to live with.

As my profile says, I'm on this site primarily to make friends and to connect with nifty people who are fun to socialize with, play with and generally spend time with. Discounting the ignorable barrage of one-line propositions from illiterate wankers that is pretty much par for the course, it seems to work quite well. I've met some very cool people, had many enjoyable and intelligent conversations in person and online, and made some friends of all ages, orientations and genders. To me, and perhaps even more significantly to a number of my male friends on this site, Collarme and the BDSM community in general is chock full of fun and friendly people. If your experience has been different, you may want to consider that the difference may have an awful lot to do with you.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/27/2007 7:41:23 AM

MiladyAngelique

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Wow, yes yes yes.... it is amazing how many other Domme's are saying what I feel

I have it in my profile that a sub must be working, simply because I like my job I work hard, but I work hard to support me and my cats. he can support himself and contribute to household bills... I do not wish to be supported ... I like my independence. I even like paying bills knowing I have done it myself, but if he is here eating my food using my power he can pay for it.

Angel

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/27/2007 8:43:48 AM

PhDslave

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There are plenty of Femdoms seeking relationships.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/27/2007 1:12:14 PM

Unrepentant1

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The key word is relationship. To go to a Pro-Domme is to pay for a service or kink, to be in a D/s relationship is exactly that. Being in a relationship is a two way street and therefore you contribute and pay your way as you would in any other relationship. Just because someone is dominant does not mean they should keep you, in the same sense submissives should not be exploited either for their desires. Hence I seek a relationship because this means far more than just sex, its my life.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/27/2007 3:23:18 PM

xLadyScarlettx

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I put it out there straight away, I don't do servants. If there is not money involved, I am all set. I find that for the most part the men that have spoken to me about slaving are just looking for a free ride. "I'll clean your house and do your laundry" yada yada yada..well fuck you...get a job and pay me to kiss my feet. After all if you're doing my laundry it is because you sucked all over my socksor got your cum on my floor. I am providing a service. One that obviously is in great demand. I can clean my own shit, I just want the money that is due. You don't walk into a grocery store and say I'll take that chicken and in exchange I'll mop your florrs do you? Well it is the same with me.

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