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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:20:11 AM   
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Gosh, this is turning into a flame-a-thon.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:22:16 AM   
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Gosh, this is turning into a flame-a-thon.


Have a marshmallow and a stick!

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:22:29 AM   
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This is typical behavior from McWhips aka Muscley.  The "block" key is useful
or simply ignoring him and not feeding the troll.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:22:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsRose

Gosh, this is turning into a flame-a-thon.


I know! and all I did was extrapolate what a Domme said to say what it truly means, oh well!

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:27:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Fast Reply to all -
 
This is typical behavior from McWhips aka Muscley.  The "block" key is useful
or simply ignoring him and not feeding the troll.


Hahahahah!!! because "all" want to ignore me not just the people who are posting including you and the other twits.  Just say it like it is why not and go "Fast reply to Me, stef, me, BlkfullTfig and me".  Im sure there are others reading all this and going 'hmmmm interesting' and what not this that whatever!

Please do ignore me then if you cant take it you baby.  Would do me a favour too then I wouldnt have to put up with you!     

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:32:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

There is sooooo much complaining about female dominants that seek "tribute" or the pro-dommes... Not complaining here... to each their own ok? What about the ones that really, sincerely, are not about the subs/slaves money? The ones that say "You won't be required to contribute financially to the household" or "Your contribution to the household will be minimal" ... I know there has to be a few out there someplace... and those same subs/slaves that complain about us only wanting their money still run like wild fire.... I think they just like to complain... don't you?
 
Jewel


To the OP, I've never sought out 'tribute', nor have I ever been a professional at this (and some might say other) pursuits. I've always thought that I would be independent, pay my own way in this world and not expect others to shoulder my burden. Being of the dominant persuasion has not effected my perception about money or work, or my goals toward sharing my life with someone else. Some subs/slaves I've come into contact with, have concerns about other things, and in the majority of cases, it had nothing to do with money. Most of the time, it was coming to terms with the reality of what being in a D/s relationship really entailed as a submissive man. This realization, I gather, they found hard to swallow.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:36:07 AM   
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It's o.k.,

I hope you find peace one day.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:37:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMarryMac

It's o.k.,

I hope you find peace one day.
 


May you one day not be boring and patronizing.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:37:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Fast Reply to all -
 
This is typical behavior from McWhips aka Muscley.  The "block" key is useful
or simply ignoring him and not feeding the troll.


Where is this block key and what exactly does it block? tnks

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:39:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissMarryMac

quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Fast Reply to all -
 
This is typical behavior from McWhips aka Muscley.  The "block" key is useful
or simply ignoring him and not feeding the troll.


Where is this block key and what exactly does it block? tnks


Its just there under my post dear.  Its the red hand next to the word that says block.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:43:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Fast Reply to all -
 
This is typical behavior from McWhips aka Muscley.  The "block" key is useful
or simply ignoring him and not feeding the troll.


Thanks Vendaval,  I found it and it is a nice feature I have to say. 

Best

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 12:48:48 AM   
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If only she / it knew.  Knew that it didnt have to come here and try to offend me originally, I am not forcing myself upon it.  It spoke to me 1st.  Yet now it wants to block me as if I was.  Pathetic.   I am laughing.  Feel free to block me everyone else, I honestly could not give a rats arse.  Infact I might even prefer it that way.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 4:36:46 AM   
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I read an interview with the editor of a men's magazine yesterday

He was asked "So what do you readers want most?"

He answered " to get sex without having to pay for it - financially or emotionally"

If men get sex without "paying for it", good for them.  Well done. But just be quietly smug about it.  Don't start demanding that all women should be that dumb.



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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 7:02:13 AM   
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It would be nice to have intimacy with no emotional downside, but I don't think its even remotely possible. (At least for me, anyways.....)

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 7:08:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne

I read an interview with the editor of a men's magazine yesterday

He was asked "So what do you readers want most?"

He answered " to get sex without having to pay for it - financially or emotionally"

If men get sex without "paying for it", good for them.  Well done. But just be quietly smug about it.  Don't start demanding that all women should be that dumb.


 

Good afternoon.  Interesting.  Even though I have recieved a memo from the mods here I do stress that my reflection on this post is certainly not a flame but really a reflection upon what was said.

As far as mens magazines are concerned I seldom believe in any of the words in them, for example the magazine "Mens health" in which it somewhat sells itself on advising men how to have an amazing body.  I have never taken that magazine too seriously myself.  Magazines are really there to sell and make profit.

Butting getting back to the subject.  Personally I find that explanation of the subject rather too convenient, I dont think its that black and white at all.  Personally I do not consider an arrangement where the male and female are emotionally happy with each other and having sex to be defined as the man "paying for it" emotionally.  It almost makes it sound as though sex is some kind of displeasurable activity for all in which certain sacrifices have to be made.

If however one wants to take that defenition then I will go as far as to say that I pay for it emotionally or at least like to try except for when I am old news after shes had her jollies.  Im not being sarcastic here please.  There are plenty of women who just want to grab your face, stick their tongue down your throat and be done with it but I am not here complaining about how I am being abused because I cant force women to want anymore than they really want. 

The thing is though that there are also women out there who want sex with no ties.  There is a girl I know who pretty much shags around a lot with a number of different men.  Not that I am that interested in her myself but I take no offence at her and what she wants to do.  Infact you would only need to be around at a University to know that people like fun, let alone on freshers week!

Implying that women who dont want money for sex are dumb I find a bit offensive towards women to be honest.  They are women too, but just because you would feel abused or dumb for having sex without getting paid for it doesnt mean that judgement can be passed on other women who want to enjoy sex and dont think they should be payed for it to make it less "painfull" for them, because ultimatly as everyone should know women are for the most part rational beings capable of making their own decisions in life and they wouldnt be doing something if they didnt want to. 

So Yeh I'm sitting here being quietly smug because I get attention fun and sex from women without "paying for it" (by your defenition at least) because obviously Im a trickster who is fobbing them off because they are stupid and Im just an evil little man of trickery.  

All I can really see in that post is "Women hate sex so we must get paid for it".  My advice to that kind of woman would be just dont bother and save yourself the hassle. 

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 7:24:44 AM   
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Wow! "Get sex without having to pay for it - financially or emotionally"

As some will know, I was born and raised male, and naturally I'm not going to be typical of that sex or gender identity, but I just dont understand that comment. I just dont see any value or motivation or reward in sex, where there is no emotional investment in the other person - one might as well have sex with one's own hand; its purely mechanical, meaningless gratification.

Is the suggestion then, that all men think this way? I dont believe and cant bring myself to believe that of every man out there, but then again I maybe have a skewed viewpoint on it.

But supposing for a moment it were true, then why on earth do men seek out women at all, when they have all they need quite literally so close to hand?

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 8:02:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Wow! "Get sex without having to pay for it - financially or emotionally"

As some will know, I was born and raised male, and naturally I'm not going to be typical of that sex or gender identity, but I just dont understand that comment. I just dont see any value or motivation or reward in sex, where there is no emotional investment in the other person - one might as well have sex with one's own hand; its purely mechanical, meaningless gratification.

Is the suggestion then, that all men think this way? I dont believe and cant bring myself to believe that of every man out there, but then again I maybe have a skewed viewpoint on it.

But supposing for a moment it were true, then why on earth do men seek out women at all, when they have all they need quite literally so close to hand?

E



Of course its not true at all.  There are plenty of men out there who want just sex (they are usually the ones getting womens attention with their lying bullshit), but there are other men out there who want not only someone to fuck but also to get along with!  My sister once got told by a male "You are incredible, I feel a special connection etc"  but she soon twigged on to what was really going on.  There are 3 different kinds of men, ones who just want sex and will pretend they are interested in the woman, those that want sex and freindship and will be more readable for a woman, then there are those who are transparent to a woman that he only wanted sex with her so shes knows what she is dealing with and its entirely up to her.

A couple of weeks ago I had the privelidge of making a 19 year old female cum without me touching her over the webcams.  She is absolutely mad on heat its so funny.  I knew thats all she was about but then she starts lying to me and saying that shes "lonely" but I think she just wants me around a bit longer for her jollies.  Sorry I know thats the case becuase I am sometimes asking her why we dont talk about anything but sex rather than getting to know each other, because when a woman is sexually interested in me this actually provokes me to want to get to know her as a person too.  

If you want to pass me off as lying and think that all men including me are bullshitters then you just go ahead and do that I really dont care lol.  Its your loss.


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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 8:55:58 AM   
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I fully realize in 'replying' to Mr. Muscleyandcute (who is not so muscled and not so cute, jmho) that I will be his next focus to burn.
 
Here is an observation, take it or leave it, I don't really care.  Even when you have been responded to kindly (or that was how I read it) your response was nothing short of nasty and flaming.  While you do seem intelligent and possibly have something to offer to that right person your attitude will likely be the thing that stands in your way.  You have an obvious bitter undertow and it is hanging out in every post that you have made in this thread.  I don't know the root of it.  Maybe you don't even know the root of it yourself.  Perhaps you are not even aware it exists, but it seems obvious to most here that it does in fact exist.  Rather than quickly replying and smashing my head it you may try some constructive introspection to see if there is any truth to what has been said about you.
 
Your question on the word definition did not take me long to figure out the root of the word http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&defl=en&q=define:QUIXOTIC&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title Your 'quick response' and lashing out was simply further proof of your mental position.
 
In response to the OP:  It does seem that many have turned to the pro sector or at the very least are trying to.  Some days I can absolutely understand this.  I do enjoy working with and getting to know people.  I do have a lot of fun doing it.  But in order for any relationship to be a well working relationship it has to be one where every one's needs are being met.  Over the last 6 months I have spent huge amounts of time getting to know and sharing myself with a number of people here only to have them decide that they could not take things beyond fantasy and into real life.  Or that they were too ‘dominant’ to allow their inner submissive out for real.  This leaves me feeling that they have wasted my time and have not been respectful of the value of it.  To me time has great value.  It is the one thing that once spent can never ever be retrieved.  If I am spending time meeting the 'fantasy' needs of a man and I am simply enjoying the process, with a goal for a future, and still yet not really ever meeting any of my needs then it becomes the case where I feel I should be remunerated for my time.  I can understand how some without a full perspective might not agree (and I am absolutely fine with that) but playing with the plethora of subby men could truly be a full time job.
 
I so completely agree (as usual) with what Tammy Jo has to say!  Many seem to be afraid to give all of themselves and find it far easier to give of the pocketbook.  When asked what it is that I will expect:  I am able to simply and honestly state that I will expect for you to give me all of you.  I don't ask for tribute unless I want to get rid of the guy and usually that works.  I don't want just a little.......I want it all
 
I would expect my slaves to help out or give in every way that they are capable of.  This would include financially.    Isn’t that the foundational premise?  To make the life of the Dominant one easier and better.  In my mind this means that the life of the submissive/slave also becomes better as a result. I would not be interested in having another human to take full financial responsibility for.  I have more than my share of children and really don't need, what would seem to me to be, another.   If I did I would just adopt one of the precious children who truly NEED that type of care.

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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 8:58:51 AM   
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quote:

If you want to pass me off as lying and think that all men including me are bullshitters then you just go ahead and do that I really dont care lol.  Its your loss.


I don't believe Lady Ellen was saying any such thing.  In fact, it reads to me like she was saying pretty much the same as you were, that not all men want to have sex with no emotional attachment.  Why all the hostility?

I suppose making a sweeping generalization such as all (or even most) men are looking for sex for free (emotional or financial) is like saying all dominant women (or even most) are only using sex to get the payment (emotional or financial).




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RE: I couldn't help it... What about the Mistress's tha... - 3/21/2007 9:04:43 AM   
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To address the OP:

I had a submissive for about three years who lived with me and ran the household.  I provided 100% of the financial support because I was the one with the career, he took care of house and ums.  I am in a committed relationship with my slave right now.  He does not give me tribute nor do I expect it.  He does take me to dinner and buy me presents but then I do the same with him as many people do for those who are close to them.

It won't matter.  No matter how one lives their life, pro, non pro, financially independent, dependent, co supportive...there will be someone who will simply bitch.  When it all comes down to it, if you are right with yourself and are doing the best you can, that's really all that matters.

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