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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 12:35:39 PM   
Anarrus


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Of course it another one of those threads.... and I'm sure there will be lots more where that came from.... wanna know why??? Because there are a LOT of people here that are only in it for the cyber-play... weekend warriors that sit at home bored and say... "oh, what the hell... let's play around online for a bit" and find someone that is (but won't be for long) blisfully ignorant about the way things go here, play around pretending to be truly interested for the whole evening... perhaps even sending pics or exchanging phone numbers... and if you are really "lucky" those same people will be just as bored on Sunday too and will talk to you some more and stroke the hope that you have finally met someone "real" and then come Monday "POOF" .... back to the funny pages.
 
Yes L... there are a lot here and I wish I had a way to sift through them too... I will tell you this much though.... talking to them on the phone is NO indication, neither is talking to them on IM.... I guess the best you can to take your chances and hope you find the one you are looking for before you become as jaded and most here have become.
 
Jewel


I prefer to give everyone on here the benefit of doubt and assume they are genuine and sincerely interested in finding someone.....that is until the reality, the logistics, of actually committing to someone and establishing a bond hits them between their eyes.

Fantasyland appeals to all of us at one time and the appeal of it is tremendous to many. It's all too easy to get sucked in.
Then the realities of care giving to aging parents and/or children , school or career obligations, owning a home, the financial and time restraints of long distance traveling and dozens of other responsibilities of daily life become the wrenches that are tossed into the fantasy. Disappointment, mistrust and certainly jadedness is the end result.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 12:46:11 PM   
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1.  I wouldn't want to relocate to Jersey City, either.  I've seen Jersey City, and I'd rather be fake than live there.

2.  If you are as active and respected in 'the community' as you claim to be, then you would be well aware of the number of "fakes and wannabes" there are and you would surely be as bored and unimpressed with that fact as we are in here and you wouldn't feel the need to make (yet another) thread about it.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 1:15:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Perhaps we aren't *real* unless we are looking.  



Ooo... that's right. We fade out of existence (as does our knowledge, experience and usefulness) as soon as we are taken.  

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 1:21:17 PM   
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Yup, everybody here is unreal. Of course that includes you. We're all computer generated like in The Matrix.

As rants on 'nobody here will give me the time of day' ones go, I give this a 2 on a 1-10 scale. Ten being for the most amusing and original.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 1:23:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mysti

boring.

I'm going to take my fake self of to my fake Dom and ask him to give me a fake spanking cause I'm a naughty fake sub


i second that motion


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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 1:38:01 PM   
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i know that there are fakes, Master and i have ran into a few of those here.  but, there are also a lot of very nice and very real people here, because we  have also met them, both online and in real life.  just like in real life you have to weed through to find those people who match with you and your desires.  as the saying goes, don't throw the baby out with the bath water!!  i am very appreciative of collarme.  after all i would have never met Master without it.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 3:25:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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To be fair, simply because we aren't looking now doesn't mean we weren't looking for a partner here in the past.


Perhaps we aren't *real* unless we are looking.  

Or perhaps memories are easily forgotten! Granted, there are a lot of posts about this same subject, but the fact remains, it's an issue and a very valid issue to those like the OP who are still searching.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 3:33:14 PM   
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I base my opinion on past experience with someone pushing for something I was not ready for.  But perhaps I wasn't in the 'most' you mentioned.


First, you're only in it if you believe yourself to be. Then... PAST is a key word... there has been a major influx of new people..sometimes I think it goes in waves... anyway... in the PRESENT we find one hell of a lot of people that seem to just be interested in leading some fantasy life here on the net and don't seem to care that there are real people sitting on the other side of that screen that are NOT into the cyber-fantasy world.

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Perhaps we aren't *real* unless we are looking


Real has absolutely nothing to do with my point... perhaps you are not experiencing all the cyber-players because you aren't looking?

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If you are as active and respected in 'the community' as you claim to be, then you would be well aware of the number of "fakes and wannabes" there are and you would surely be as bored and unimpressed with that fact as we are in here and you wouldn't feel the need to make (yet another) thread about it.


You don't honestly believe that in real time, face to face lifestyle gatherings there are all those cyber-players just hanging around to mess with your head... do you? I seriously doubt that happens... someone would surely step up and beat their ass in a most unpleasant way. So... what does being active in a real time community have to do with being a newbie here? The two are worlds apart.

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Ooo... that's right. We fade out of existence (as does our knowledge, experience and usefulness) as soon as we are taken.    


Yes... please, grab hold of that one straw and run with it!!
 
Selective reading.... naw... selective memory... most likely.
 
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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 3:43:05 PM   
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Has it occurred to you that potential submissives simply find you or your situation unappealing ... or even unreal?

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 4:15:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash

Or perhaps memories are easily forgotten! Granted, there are a lot of posts about this same subject, but the fact remains, it's an issue and a very valid issue to those like the OP who are still searching.


Memories of heartache and disappointment are less easily forgotten then others in my experience. While I understand that "fakes" and trolls are a problem faced by people who are looking for partners, I don't feel this problem is exclusively to BDSM. How many vanilla women complain about a horndog who just wants to fuck when they want a relationship? I don't understand expecting BDSM to be different and I don't understand speaking as though taken individuals have no useful advice for those who are dating. Obviously we have been there, we know it sucks, and if we are in healthy relationships where we are getting want we both want and need, we may have something useful to say.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 4:15:51 PM   
valeca


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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

quote:

I base my opinion on past experience with someone pushing for something I was not ready for.  But perhaps I wasn't in the 'most' you mentioned.


First, you're only in it if you believe yourself to be. Then... PAST is a key word... there has been a major influx of new people..sometimes I think it goes in waves... anyway... in the PRESENT we find one hell of a lot of people that seem to just be interested in leading some fantasy life here on the net and don't seem to care that there are real people sitting on the other side of that screen that are NOT into the cyber-fantasy world.


Jewel


Ah, then I will operate under the opinion I wasn't included.  Fair enough for me.  Although, I will say that the post I made was in reference to me, and so my past experience was relevant to it.  I can't (and try not to) speak for others and their posts.

I do agree things go in cycles...everything seems to.  I didn't notice any sort of influx to CM in recent times, but I suppose that comes from my perspective with regards to reading profiles as 'one not looking'.  I'm not able to share the same experience as others appear to be having...and I definately think I'm grateful for it!

Thanks for your thoughts.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 4:18:44 PM   
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Yes it is unfortunate that there are some many "fakes" out here in CM land...As for myself I have 14 profiles currently running...6 Nigerian subs, 4 Philipino's and 4 different strains of Domiguy...For the UK Domiguy I used a picture of Rex Grossman.(Bears Q.B.)

To date I have collected (collected sounds so much nicer than extorted) $147,234.73 from doms trying to corner the Nigerian slave market....All they got was a few pics and a letter from  the Nigerian sub's friend explaining how the money was received but Slave iyabo was unfortunately trampled to death by cattle...and the money was going towards a casket and burial expenses....So sad. 

I wouldn't call these profiles fakes because they provided the bilked doms with the exhilaration of finding love, the thrill of meeting someone new and making a "connection" and then ultimately finding a way to cop with loss...For a few thousand dollars...I'd say they got their moneys worth.....No fakes out here...Just people trying to find love in an ever changing and fast paced world...

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 4:42:11 PM   
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I have to agree...maybe you just don't appeal.  There's location and someone said not many are looking for couples and I think that's prolly true.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 5:03:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Anarrus

I prefer to give everyone on here the benefit of doubt and assume they are genuine and sincerely interested in finding someone.....that is until the reality, the logistics, of actually committing to someone and establishing a bond hits them between their eyes.


You know i have sat here at my desk ( my desk sits in between Scooter and Jewels, it is a large office) and watched Jewel open her email while i open mine.
 
I've seen the messages from both male and female subs she receives daily that range from a nice "Good morning" to an obnoxious "spank my naughty ass" with vivid photos of said ass down to the brown ring of their ass holes. (side note here; we just love these at 6 am when we are having tea and toast together, NOT!)
 
I've watched her spend hours writing and answering emails, trusting that there is a real live human being on the other side of the screen.
 
We've had daily discussions about the pros and cons of each individual, thought up careful questions pertaining to their particular situation, wants and needs.
 
I've seen her progress to IM's and phone calls, even get to the point recently of helping somebody replace a phone they lost to a bad electrical storm so they could keep talking.(In this persons defense they did not ask for this but they had been talking daily and the calls had become important to Jewel). Only to suddenly stop even opening Jewel's emails no explanation offered.
 
So i can honestly say that Jewel as an individual and all of us as a group(ScooterTrash, ShiftedJewel and me, twicehappy) have always given the benefit of the doubt and then some.
 
We have made friends, some have showed up to visit  (A special big hug and hello to JustDucky and Mistoferin here) and big hugs to quite a few others as well.
 
Then there are those who go through all the motions, we start feeling like there may be something possible. Yet time after time after time these folks just disappear. No explanation, no nothing.
 
They were using Jewel to fulfill a fantasy, when reality came to call they moved on.
 
They do not stop and think "Hey, there is a real live human being on the other side of the screen, that voice on the phone might actually be attached to a fragile human heart, the person i am using to wank off on has feelings that are going to be hurt when i am done here".
 
Keep giving everybody the benefit of the doubt?
 
Maybe if you have a heart of stone.
 
Oh yeah, it hurts, it affects you.
 
Even when logically you KNOW it is not you. When you know these folks that pull this shit are just wankers, it still affects you.
 
You still take a blow and ask yourself  "what is wrong with me?"
 
We are to the point where we believe them, or we will, when they actually make it to the front door.
 
As to the excuse"i do not want to come and end up having no where to go" well we've had two males here who did not work out. Both of them stayed here as long as they needed to get on their feet.
 
One of whom they even made his car and insurance payments for a month ahead so he would have a car.(btw, this one ripped me off for around $8000.00 all told by using my bank card numbers and stolen checks.)
 
The other we just adore. He came back for Xmas, yes we bought him gifts, he came back for New Years and his parents are visiting again soon.
 
It's not that hard. Really.
 
Just show up. Or be honest and remain friends.
 
I flew 2000+ miles to get here.
 
So yes, there are these threads every damn week. Maybe there's a reason. 
 
 

< Message edited by twicehappy -- 2/2/2007 5:04:27 PM >


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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 5:07:42 PM   
windchymes


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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Yes it is unfortunate that there are some many "fakes" out here in CM land...As for myself I have 14 profiles currently running...6 Nigerian subs, 4 Philipino's and 4 different strains of Domiguy...For the UK Domiguy I used a picture of Rex Grossman.(Bears Q.B.)

To date I have collected (collected sounds so much nicer than extorted) $147,234.73 from doms trying to corner the Nigerian slave market....All they got was a few pics and a letter from  the Nigerian sub's friend explaining how the money was received but Slave iyabo was unfortunately trampled to death by cattle...and the money was going towards a casket and burial expenses....So sad. 

I wouldn't call these profiles fakes because they provided the bilked doms with the exhilaration of finding love, the thrill of meeting someone new and making a "connection" and then ultimately finding a way to cop with loss...For a few thousand dollars...I'd say they got their moneys worth.....No fakes out here...Just people trying to find love in an ever changing and fast paced world...

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.


You're faking all that!  Aren't you?

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 5:10:29 PM   
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We are to the point where we believe them, or we will, when they actually make it to the front door.
 


On a unicorn.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 5:15:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld

quote:

ORIGINAL: twicehappy

We are to the point where we believe them, or we will, when they actually make it to the front door.


On a unicorn.


Lmao....Oh Great and Magnificent Forum God, we would not send the right one away if he showed up on a Goldwing.
 
Though Jewel most sincerely wishes for one whose horn is intact.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 5:41:13 PM   
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Hun, although we've never met I feel for you and Jewel.  I know from your (and her) posts that they just don't come any better than the two of you.  You made a very good point.  I think we (and I am guilty of this myself) don't stop and think that there's a person on the other end of the email.  Thanks for pointing it out.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 6:21:53 PM   
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If people were more process oriented than goal oriented, they would certainly enjoy the process of finding people to spend time with. Positive people that look for the good in others tend to find it, the opposite sort tend to find what they expect too.. the choice is really yours, what sort of reality do you choose... glass half empy/glass half full (and I bet it is obvious what sort I am)

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 6:26:49 PM   
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I find the whole fuckoree amusing myself---

some of these women act like they are wanting to give pussy away with both hands.

but the minute you talk toilet service, you find out they got the whoas goin on...

send 'em a cockshot, tell 'em feast your eyes on this baby, and they clam up.

Duran Duran



Damn ... how come I never got a cockshot ... I feel so left out :(

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