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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 11:41:29 AM   
WhiplashSmile


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Status: offline 		I will accept requests, but it's at my decision.   Sometimes they come with or without strings, just to see how far the sub/slave is willing to go in asserting a request.  Depends if it's something serious, or more fun and games..   Begging is always can be music to a Dom/me ears at times,  Requests can be good for rewards...  For some, no requests are permitted, it's sit down and shut up.  All depends,  for some of the so called No Limits slaves/sub which only seek to please a Master, and have committed a form of mental living suicide... why would they make a request anyways.   Is that a request to go to the bathroom, or request for her Master to punish her? A request for pleasure?  Depends upon the type of request as well... 

I'm just throwing some things out from two ends of the spectrum here...  food for thought...

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 11:46:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yep. There's a wide "spectrum" of what is considered Dominance out there. The most important thing is that the two agree on "limits" (unless one is a slave I guess. But that's a whole 'nother conversation). I think if the two get along, and they are happy and-or their needs are being met, then that is what is most important.

I am often wondering how two people re-negotiate previoulsy agreed upon "limits", but that is probably a whole new thread, maybe.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 11:49:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		No I don't submit to anything or anyone.
I will however give a good boy permission to ask for or better yet beg for something he desires, and I will not permit it if he takes it for granted or acts like he can order it...   M

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 11:53:04 AM   
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Do Dominants ever submit to a sub's request to do something specific to the sub that the sub likes?  If so, is the dominant being submissive when acting out the sub's fantasy for the sub?  If yes,  does that mean the sub has some type of control within the sub/dom relationship? 


I haven't read the whole thread so this may be a repeat, but....

How can a Dominant reward a submissive if they don't know things the submissive likes? If I've done a particularly good job of serving a Dominant, how do they give positive reinforcement for my behavior if they don't know what to give me as a reward?

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:08:29 PM   
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Good.


lol........well, that supposed enigmatic response to a question is a little dull. But hey ho.


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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:19:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I hope ive understood the question
When i started getting to know my boy we talked a lot about each others fantasies and what we liked with regards to bdsm. So when we are together I know what makes him submissive and i use that to my advantage, I don't see that as servicing his desires or wants, I see it as using him in an effective way to get what I want. 
People have fantasies, thats how we progress in all this isnt it? We get new ideas about things we would like to do becasue it makes you fell either dominant or submisive? Well I feel thats where reward comes into it in our relationship. 
If he has been doing his best and achieved sometihng for me that he has worked hard to do for me, I will ask him to sit and worship my feet while he tells me about anything that he has been thinking about a lot, a scene he hasnt stopped thining about , and i learn all about it I ask him why it would make him feel submissive. 
Then i will plan that scene to the finest detail and tease him with it for weeks, then i will give him the scene when he isnt quite suspecting it. And then I will be able to watch my boy be so completely submissive to me and get that great big massive dominant high , that those perfect mind blowing scenes give you. 
Who cares if it was his idea? I'm not doing it for his benefit at all.  I'm doing it because while normal everyday D/s is great, those random perfect scenes I love to play, show me my boy at his finest . They make my heart soar and I feel so proud watching him submit to me.
Becasue he know knows being good gets this reward and what doing it all means to mean he loves to please me so any of his ideas are for my own benefit anyway. He is submitting himself to me.



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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:37:06 PM   
CreatfreeAccount


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Status: offline 		Thank you canupleaseme, when you are, as you say, "giving him that scene"  are you servicing his request?  If yes, then I gather that yes, dominants do service the subs in certain circumstances. 

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:39:58 PM   
canupleaseme


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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:40:01 PM   
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I do not submit to or serve my submissive.  I do however, serve his needs on occasion....


Thank you. 

So as I am gathering that yes sometimes a dom will service a sub's needs on occasion.

I appreciate your time and energy into this.  Thank you for your contributions.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:41:03 PM   
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No im servicing my needs


True enough, but you are servicing a request of his as well. No?

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:43:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CreatfreeAccount

Thank you canupleaseme, when you are, as you say, "giving him that scene"  are you servicing his request?  If yes, then I gather that yes, dominants do service the subs in certain circumstances. 


It seems that the only thing you are trying to do is get people to say that Dom's are submissive to their subs.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:44:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl

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ORIGINAL: CreatfreeAccount

Good.


lol........well, that supposed enigmatic response to a question is a little dull. But hey ho.



pedanticatic, enigmatic, pragmatic, systematic, it's all the same, no,?

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:45:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks anyway but no.  Did it get your mind moving anyway?

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:45:58 PM   
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So as I am gathering that yes sometimes a dom will service a sub's needs on occasion.


If I didn't serve his needs, why would he stay with me?  It's a lucky coincidence for him that his needs coincide with my own so well.  It's what makes us compatible. 

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:46:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for sharing with me your viewpoint.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:48:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsKatHouston

quote:

So as I am gathering that yes sometimes a dom will service a sub's needs on occasion.


If I didn't serve his needs, why would he stay with me?  It's a lucky coincidence for him that his needs coincide with my own so well.  It's what makes us compatible. 


Thank you.  But what if one of his needs didn't match with yours, since you love him would you still service the need?

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:48:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've got to ask...

Why the bent to repeat the word 'servicing'?  So many other words have been offered, but you keep returning to that single one.  Just curious.  Is there some conotation you're attaching to it the rest of us aren't privy to?  If there is, it might be helpful to share your view of the word so we can better understand the point of repeating it so many times.

It really seems to be a sticking point...


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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:51:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		No bent feelings here.  People use terms they choose to use.  I am not being offensive.  If you can't handle a word then quit reading.  


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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:52:00 PM   
canupleaseme


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Status: offline 		No I dont think I am.  I am doing what I love to do the most and allowing my boy to show me his submission in a way I know will give me the best feeling in the world. I dont care what he has to do to achieve that.  Like i said i do it because its the best way to achieve what I want and he is expressing his submission to me. As far as I can see he is servicing my needs.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 12:52:41 PM   
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Thank you.  But what if one of his needs didn't match with yours, since you love him would you still service the need?


Too broad a question to answer absolutely.  It would depend completely on the specific need or if it was a need or a want.  If it is a want, probably not.  If it was a need, then that may be compromise time, time for him to step up or time to end it.  Depends.

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