FirmhandKY
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY It's part of what I mentioned to you in the other thread. Some people (on both sides of the ideological divide) won't let facts get in the way of a good story that reinforces their pre-existing beliefs. The only thing I'll ask you is: Did she say she was outed as a covert CIA operative by the Novak story? Did "many others" outside the CIA know she worked for the CIA before that occurred? If the facts show both sentences to be true ... then she is at best dissembling, and the question becomes "why?" If you are willing to look at those questions, and answer that "why" honestly, then you may convince me you aren't suffering from a form of BDS. 1. Yes, she did,under oath. 2. Only those with security clearance. Honestly, I do not follow your logic after that point. I am not willing to be swayed by anything without facts FirmhandKY. 1. Amicus Curiae brief filed by news media organizations On March 23, 2005, 36 news organizations, including ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, AP, Newsweek, Reuters America, the Washington Post and the Tribune Company, filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington. In this brief these organizations contend that there is "serious doubt" that there was a violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act because of unsubstantiated news reports that Valerie Plame didn't meet the criteria of a "covert" agent and that her status as a CIA agent was known to both the Russian and Cuban intelligence operations prior to the Novak article. Page ten, paragraph two, of the Amici Curiae Brief filed by the 36 major news organizations cites Robert Novak's report that he called the C.I.A. to determine whether Valerie Plame is an agency employee and received confirmation that she was. If Robert Novak's report is true and if that information was classified, Novak did not have the security clearance required to receive that information. 2. CIA officer named prior to column (Washington Times) The identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame was compromised twice before her name appeared in a news column that triggered a federal illegal-disclosure investigation, U.S. officials say. Mrs. Plame's identity as an undercover CIA officer was first disclosed to Russia in the mid-1990s by a Moscow spy, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity. In a second compromise, officials said a more recent inadvertent disclosure resulted in references to Mrs. Plame in confidential documents sent by the CIA to the U.S. Interests Section of the Swiss Embassy in Havana. The documents were supposed to be sealed from the Cuban government, but intelligence officials said the Cubans read the classified material and learned the secrets contained in them, the officials said. 3. JOE WILSON, HUSBAND OF THE UNMASKED CIA AGENT VALERIE PLAME, SAYS THERE HAVE BEEN THREATS AGAINST HER "60 MINUTES SUNDAY" (Drudge) Wilson tells Bradley [of CBS's 60 minutes] , contrary to reports that many knew Plame was in the CIA, that only he and three other people knew. "Well, very few people outside the intelligence community [knew she was CIA]. Her parents and her brother, essentially," says Wilson. Interesting side note: 60 minutes transcript: “But, once you were married, you had to join this cover. I mean, you couldn't tell your family, your friends,” Bradley asked. “No. The day that Mr. Novak's article appeared, my sister-in-law turned to my brother and said, ‘Do you think Joe knew?’ So, not even my brother or my sister-in-law or any of my immediate family knew,” Wilson recalled. 4. Larry King Live CNN Nov 1 2005 PATRICK FITZGERALD, SPECIAL PROSECUTOR IN CIA LEAK INVESTIGATION: Valerie Wilson's cover was blown in July, 2003. The first sign of that cover being blown was when Mr. Novak published a column on July 14, 2003 but Mr. Novak was not the first reporter to be told that Wilson's wife, Valerie Wilson, Ambassador Wilson's wife Valerie worked at the CIA. Several other reporters were told. 5. I've heard some interesting things out of her testimony yesterday, but as of yet, have no transcript, so I'll hold those comments and cites until I do, and have a chance to review that material. FirmKY
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