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FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/17/2007 11:26:51 PM   
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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/17/2007 11:28:20 PM   
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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/17/2007 11:30:46 PM   
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You watch Fox... and believe them .. I thought only right wingers like me we're supposed to support them..
Glad to see you onboard

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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/17/2007 11:33:42 PM   
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You watch Fox... and believe them .. I thought only right wingers like me we're supposed to support them..
Glad to see you onboard


Oh this stuff is installed on yout tivo too ;)    Surprise!  this is nothing new, at least to me :)


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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/17/2007 11:35:52 PM   
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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/17/2007 11:38:07 PM   
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If the phone is turned off, is there much to listen to?


your Phone is never "really" turned off  LOL


here are the people who think ths shit up :)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137330196032136210&q=conspiracy

Welcome to the real world!


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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/17/2007 11:41:17 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoeW1G56YiU&mode=related&search=


RO.....

I'm curious....are you talking about listening in or tracking one's location based on the pings  they can triangulate from the nearest tower?


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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/17/2007 11:45:05 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoeW1G56YiU&mode=related&search=


RO.....

I'm curious....are you talking about listening in or tracking one's location based on the pings  they can triangulate from the nearest tower?


- R



apparently they can turn on the microphone remotely!  Samr with tivo etc.

More here is ATT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkRAUnFLYKA&mode=related&search=

our right to privacy was an inalienable right, no longer, our right to privancy has been coverted to a priviledge and has now been revoked!

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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/17/2007 11:52:22 PM   
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Arent we happy we gave up our liberties for safety!


Thats one way to get rid of hackers!  Let the gov do it!

A vote for democrat is a vote for republican and this shit will never end.

the defifintion of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. this shit wont change till we get new blood in government!



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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:03:25 AM   
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here is their computer database

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnHIbdZrnQ&mode=related&search=

Arent we happy we gave up our liberties for safety!


Thats one way to get rid of hackers!  Let the gov do it!

A vote for democrat is a vote for republican and this shit will never end.

the defifintion of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. this shit wont change till we get new blood in government!




HAR!  I've heard they can do that with you're puter if you have a webcam.



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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:07:46 AM   
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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:11:20 AM   
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Just like they can turn on webcams also.

Why do people think that it is just software rather than hardware/firmware that has backdoors?

Paranoia is total awareness.

A neighbor can view your computer screen with proper equipment.

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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:14:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the FBI might be listening in on my calls simply because of all the bush hate and ufo watch groups I call! Yaaay for anti-bush and people from another world!

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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:17:35 AM   
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Listen to a switched off phone lol
I'd rather watch paint dry.


Yeah....it seems awful stupid doesn't it.  lol!



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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:22:52 AM   
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I think the FBI might be listening in on my calls simply because of all the bush hate and ufo watch groups I call! Yaaay for anti-bush and people from another world!


yeh so who is spying on the government for us? "We The People"?

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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:26:51 AM   
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Listen to a switched off phone lol
I'd rather watch paint dry.


Yeah....it seems awful stupid doesn't it.  lol!



- R



Not at all!  Most people do not know what 1/2 the laws are that govern them and do tons of illegalshit all the time. 

Your kid buying a piece of bubblegum from your neighbor by LAW is a taxable transaction and they can be brought up on charges for it!!!

Try talking about the gov now!!!  Now you are gauranteed to "go along to get along"

Mind control!  Slavery at its best!

People have no idea how far reaching this crap is

How far is going to far?  i mean since the government is already sleeping with you at night...


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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:31:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		How can anyone be really terrified of a government that clearly cannot even balance a check-book, organize a war and insure our soldiers even have proper equipment, attend to the Huricane Katrina mess (despite having over a year and a half to do that) or monitor our national borders, or cargo holds at airports or sea ports? Drug trafficking (as well as real-life non-consensual human slave trafficking) takes place every day.

The much-touted Department of Homeland Security cannot even get a top exec to stay in the position very long. The practical execution of the application of their "mission statement" is all over the place, and they are under-staffed and under-funded. It is hard for me to believe the are going to abandon the goals they have already deemed "more serious" (in their own words) to monitor the behavior of more inconsequential (to them) citizens.

If you are being monitored, it doesn't sound to me (based on reading 3 major news magazines a week) like the U.S. government has the incliniation, the budget, or the competence to do much with the information anyway.

Yeah - they so absolutely incredibly competent, and super-smart, I'm terrifed. Looks to me like on many days they can barely tie their own shoes.

I'm shakin' in my shoes.

I'd be much more concerned about a potential IRS audit, if I were you  (no disrespect intended, truly).

- Susan

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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:38:11 AM   
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How can anyone be really terrified of a government that clearly cannot even balance a check-book, organize a war and insure our soldiers even have proper equipment, attend to the Huricane Katirna mess (despite having over a year and a half to do that) or monitor our national borders?

Yeah - they so absolutely incredibly competent and super-smart, I'm terrifed. Looks ot me like on many days they can barely tie their own shoes. I'm shakin' in my shoes.

I'd be much more concerned about a potential IRS audit, if I were you  (no disrespect intended).

- Susan


Been there done that!  i dont cheat LOL  Keep my records up to snuff so its painless now days LOL

They may not be very good at balancing a checkbook but they sure seem to do pretty well at killing people, and torturing them, falsely blaming them, destroying lives, letting them die at katrina, need i say more?

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO
The much-touted Department of Homeland Security cannot even get a top exec to stay in the position very long. The practical execution of the  application of their "mission statement" is all over the place, and they are under-staffed and under-funded.
- Susan


Whew!!!!  Thats comforting!  i feel better now!



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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:46:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's interesting they can do that, IMO, but I doubt they'll waste their time on ordinary citizens, is all I am saying. Unless of course you are a major heroin dealer, or something, I'd not worry too much.

It may be annoying, even slightly scary, but - it is highly unlikely, IMO, to become a major concrete threat to all ordinary citizens in the near future. It is a fact we are still in the early childhood of the Information Age, IMO, and it will take years, and perhaps decades, to work out any "privacy issues" in the courts, that affect everyday citizens. I am sure there will be "ups" and "downs" as the wrinkles get ironed out.

But personally, I think: Don't worry. If major things happen, IMO, like insurance companies being able to monitor who is likely to develop which diseases based on things like genetic profiles, etc. ordinary citizens will be so up in arms and calling their Federal reps, they'll get so scared for their jobs it will make a definite, and measurable impact re: The outcome. 

Besides, cable tv channels are already dying for stuff to program (ever notice how many of them seem to follow eachother's news leads, sometimes?) If you experience something you think is unfair or completely mis-guided, in your opinion, as far as them infringing on your personal privacy - call one of them, even a local one. They'll probably be so happy to hear from you, theyll buy you dinner, IMO. 

- Susan

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RE: FBI can listen to cellphones when there turned off! - 3/18/2007 12:57:27 AM   
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I doubt they'll waste their time, is all I am saying. Unless of course you are a major heroin dealer, or something, I'd not worry too much.

It may be annoying, even slightly scary, but - it is highly unlikely, IMO, to become a major concrete threat. It is a fact we are still in the early childhood of the Information Age, IMO, and it will take years, and perhaps decades, to work out  "privacy issues" in the courts, that affect everyday citizens. I am sure there will be "ups" and "dwons" as the wrinkles get ironed out. But personally, I think: Don't worry.

- Susan


What are you talking about susan?  Work it out in court?  Whats to work out?  It used to be an inalienable right!  Like i said a zillion times on here and other sites, no one knows the differences between a right and priviledge any more, and it seeems no one cares either!:  Any wonder we have such corruption in government as we do today!

It has already been worked out.

Its called the 4th amendment!

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. 

oh and btw bush government has done away with probable cause if you are not aware as general hayden so eloquently explained

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJZ0hALJVrE

he didnt lie the courts changed it!


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