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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

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ORIGINAL: Stranger1

You don't claim titles-your expressed nature grants them through others.

Once again, I disagree. For some, taking on a title is important to their personal self development. Some people have to fall on their face about it. Some people need to figure out that who they thought they were, and thus the title they chose, isn't really who they are at all.

When you meet someone who goes by a certain title, you can choose to use it or not; that's the nice thing about a free society. The person in question then has the right to react, or not, to your use, or not, of the title. To me, how they react to that situation is a good show of character.

When giving instruction about this topic to those who serve me, I say this: It is nothing for you to use a title. If you mean no respect by it or simply treat it as part of their name, there is no emotional attachment in it for you. It is then up to the person who you are addressing to live up to the title...or not.

Master Fire

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

I began to develop an unexplainable love of carrots, tufts of white fur began appearing in odd places, and my front teeth became noticabley longer. Add in the fact that I am crazy and the name just fit.

But seriously..."Sir" is what I use in my personal relationships. Its a respect thing (something that I feal is earned) and simply a reminder for the sub of what I am to them. If they are in a personal relationship with me, then its safe to assume enough respect is present for me to require it. Outside of that, any gesture or title is at the person's discretion, something I notice and appreciate, but never require.

I am very "anti-title" because traditioanlly its something bestowed upon you by other people in a community or family and I would rather have my own personal cahracter respresent me rather than a self claimed title.

On a regular daily basis, the average male doesnt require you to call him "Mr. Smith" or refer to himself as "Mr. Smith" to show that he is male. Why? Because its clear he's a male. I feal the same way towards a Dom title. Why should I need people to refer me as Master Rabbit or refer to myself as such? If I have the substance to be viewed as a Master, then I dont need a title to recongize me as one.

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ORIGINAL: Stranger1
You don't claim titles-your expressed nature grants them through others.
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My point is that unrecognized titles only have meaning to the individual. One can have an internal validation with no external whatsoever.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

I began to develop an unexplainable love of carrots, tufts of white fur began appearing in odd places, and my front teeth became noticabley longer. Add in the fact that I am crazy and the name just fit.

But seriously..."Sir" is what I use in my personal relationships. Its a respect thing (something that I feal is earned) and simply a reminder for the sub of what I am to them. If they are in a personal relationship with me, then its safe to assume enough respect is present for me to require it. Outside of that, any gesture or title is at the person's discretion, something I notice and appreciate, but never require.

I am very "anti-title" because traditioanlly its something bestowed upon you by other people in a community or family and I would rather have my own personal cahracter respresent me rather than a self claimed title.

On a regular daily basis, the average male doesnt require you to call him "Mr. Smith" or refer to himself as "Mr. Smith" to show that he is male. Why? Because its clear he's a male. I feal the same way towards a Dom title. Why should I need people to refer me as Master Rabbit or refer to myself as such? If I have the substance to be viewed as a Master, then I dont need a title to recongize me as one.

I just love it when people have a sense of humor!
 
In your case, wouldn't "Sir" be the title you take with your sub?  For that part, it seems to Me that the definition of title fits.
 
On the second thought, being a bit old fashioned, yes, in some cases, I would still call Mr Smith exactly that.  Mister Smith.  I may not know his first name, or he may be in a certain position.  What about writing snail mail letters?  Business dealings?  Various examples come to mind.

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I do agree to a point that some names are given by the community/family/friends, but it doesn't mean it has nothing to do with Myself.  I think they are bestowed by others after observation.  It's not like One walks in the door and suddenly they have a new name.  Actually, wouldn't One consider their real name as one given by Their family at birth?

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

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ORIGINAL: Stranger1
You don't claim titles-your expressed nature grants them through others.
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My point is that unrecognized titles only have meaning to the individual. One can have an internal validation with no external whatsoever.

These two statements seem to contradict each other, in my head.

My first point was that you don't need external validation at all if you know who you are, hence you don't need nature or anyone to give you a title.

However, some do prefer to have the title bestowed. They see it as an affirmation of what they already know. My second point is that both ways are valid. You implied that only one way was the correct way...that's what I was really arguing to begin with.

Master Fire