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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/19/2007 5:25:53 AM   
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Ahh... you missed our previous and much 'publicized' engagement.

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/19/2007 5:25:53 AM   
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  I have followed the posts and I guess this is all a personal matter for each individual on the basis of everyone's different viewpoints. I have a tendency to like aggressiveness because in my vanilla life it is hard for me to give control so I need someone who is very assured in their own dominance. I dont just fall into someone's arms.(who wants a doormat with no brain?) I am complex,mutifaceted and yes sometimes stubborn but any man who wouldnt make his intentions known and put forth an effort I would respond in the same fashion-there would be no spark or interest on my part to be owned by him....I would personally feel if he had no inspiration to chase and catch then what is his inspiration in owning and teaching and getting inside my mind?
         

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/19/2007 5:31:23 AM   
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TO hell with flattery, the chase is a race with two runner, both chasing in a circle after the other.I am more like grab her by the hair over the shoulder back to my cave type of man.Most men know they have won the race well before she has realized she has lost.good luck to all you racers out there.. as alway just the humble views of this ol" master

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/19/2007 5:37:42 AM   
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you would have failed with me, Bounty. i'm a fighter as well as a runner - i don't surrender/submit readily either since i'm the one in control of the race. i'm  unique woman with very high standards who also get bored and tired when the man cannot keep my interest.

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/19/2007 5:45:03 AM   
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There went the ice water, all over the keyboard! 


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Are you implying that I am not omnipotent?


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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/19/2007 5:56:33 AM   
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I hear you girl and appreciate the fact that you don't go down without a fight,most of us love a little fire in the eyes of those we own.OF courses one must know when to fight the flames or let them gently simmer smiles..bounty 

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/19/2007 2:34:37 PM   
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quote:

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puella,

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Part of my picky plan is finding the Top that totally gets my limits, gets what and how I can stretch and how to totally work over my brain in a scene to get exactly what he/she wants--that sweet sadistic satisfaction that goes deeper than any orgasm could reach. When I find the one(s) I'm looking for, it will make the 22 months of waiting worth it.


Personally, I find this to be somewhat ignorant of the reality of it all. Tops are not just going to "get" what your limits are... Nor are they going to just "get" what you call "stretch" or "flex" or "boundary" or anything else, unless you do negotiate these things before hand.

True, it's boring to know what to expect, but there are certain things that you need to know, and deserve, as a human being to know before you jump willynilly head first into a situation.

No one "just gets it"... Even psychics have an issue with that. For example, My slave has limits I wouldn't have just gotten, had she not told me, though they might match my own. But discussion is there, because this allows us to touch base on what's important, and what's not important, what are the limits, and where those limits can be stretched.

Plain and simple, that's dangerous thinking. Especially for a self-proclaimed "sambrat"

Just my humble opinion.

Peace.

Tora



Tora, dear, you mistake me for a newbie.

I am an experienced girl who has at least five meetings with a dom before I step anywhere close to a scene.

First one, I get to know the Top. Now let me tell you, most of the doms i've met from collarme do not make it to the second meeting. These are the jerks that insist for panties, one hit me, another wouldn't let me leave a starbucks unless it was in his car... some of them are complete gentlemen as well, but most of them have been too immature for my taste. 

A couple of doms have gotten to meeting number two. There I hand out my experiences and limits list and see just how candidly the top is willing to discuss it. If he is too inexperienced or afraid of the rest of the world finding out he is 'kinky' then he'll shrug it off. 

After 18 interviews, I've had two conversations that were actually candid enough to discuss scening (one was last night).  With my last domme, we had meetings three and four, both of which what her expectations of me were, and then what was my expectations of her. {Expectations are Pre-Meditated Resentments} 

Oh, and by then, we had already done the whole reference check, std result sharing, all of it. This is where negotiations come into play. We discussed play space, time, scheduling, phone calls, cancellations, etc. By the time the Top meets me for the fifth time, they know enough to scene. Nothing heavy, nothing permanent, no strings, just a nice scene with a safe call included in the mix.    And you wonder why its taken me 22 months to find a Top? I'm careful. Maybe to an extreme, but I'm more careful than you think.

Maybe it was foolish of me to say what I did for all the newer submissives out there. For that I apologize. Remember that your experiences are your own, and you should make your own benchmarks of safety set by your standards and by the guidelines set out in SSC. I think every new submissive needs experienced ones to mentor him/her, hence why I think these forums are invaluable for educational purposes.

kisses, and thank you for your concern,
it was sweet of you to think of me and my safety,
venuscoffee

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/23/2007 8:56:16 AM   
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I agree with sambamanslilgirl  that a girl with fire is not easily taken down. I also have fight and spirit and won't be taken down by anyone who does not deserve all of me but if he can manage to get inside my mind then the tigress turns into a kitten and purrs...until the surrender a wrong move would mean a bite or a swipe. Each sub or slave has their match somewhere -just when you question if it might never happen your dom/master will find you-chase if your heart is in it-for me the thrill of hearing my heart pounding knowing he is driven to come find me, and take me home as his is intoxicating...not many even are allowed to get that far-so thrilling when the opportunity is there for both!
          Obviously when both are into it the sparks and fireworks are amazing-my own personal feelings are that such intensity  should ultimately lead to intense commitment-sigh-to me the chase it was leads to everything else....
just my humble opinion.


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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/23/2007 9:57:54 AM   
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I am not a chaser. I see what I want, I reach out and make it Mine. If it tries to lead Me a merry dance to 'catch' her then it soon becomes tiresome. I don't DO vanilla, her submission is the REAL beginning, not the preamble.

If when I reach for her I find her reaching back, THEN we have the makings of a much greater and more meaningful dance.


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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/23/2007 10:30:31 AM   
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ditto

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/23/2007 10:34:17 AM   
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Venus,

While you have every right to your own process, I cannot imagine putting up with five meetings with someone prior to doing a light modest scene.  Especially if you are in an area where real references can be provided.  I can certainly see a date or two but to me, someone going that slow would be a HUGE red flag to me, of someone who almost has a fetish for ensuring people fail and or massive potential for drama.

For someone new, perhaps not playing at all for a number of months as LA suggest makes sense but if an experiences person cannot decide for herself after meeting me a couple times that she is willing and in fact can wait that long, the connection isn't strong enough to even bother with.

This isn't meant as criticism but simply food for thought.

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/23/2007 11:14:04 AM   
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Chasing is just not something I am interested in at all.

If I see someone that intrigues me I say hello. If they are interested......well then, things move forward.

Rather than chasing after someone I prefer to get to know them as a human being. From that either something blossoms or not. To me it is more like a beautiful dance rather than anything else. Each making subtle movements that give up more and more of the inner self.

And then, with all of that being said, one of the most amazing relationships I have ever had started out with me being blindsided and pounced quite literally.


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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/23/2007 3:34:34 PM   
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Exactly!  

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/23/2007 3:49:30 PM   
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... I still maintain that the nature and/or entirety of my question was not understood by that response.

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/23/2007 5:53:09 PM   
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I was referring to the banter between you and Michael. It's cute, in it's own coded sort of way, so I was just joking with the "why don't you two just get a room?"



well.. as long as it's a big room... there are some of sick bastards out here that wanna watch

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/23/2007 6:34:25 PM   
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Hehehe, surely you remember that Crappy never wanted anything to do with me or my cursed Italian wedding?

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/23/2007 6:38:34 PM   
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So much for us, ahhh uhmmmmm, THOSE sick perverted bastards getting to see anything..........sheesh....

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RE: The deliciousness of the chase. - 4/26/2007 9:53:52 AM   
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    This is my first post but I could not help myself....what girl wouldnt love the chase? Perhaps some girls don't like it because at some point it could cross a line into obsession or stalking but a chase in the sense that he wants you and lets you know it allows you to consider him as a dom or master does it not? If he puts forth no effort at all then how badly does he want you?
    I personally would like to know that he would be "bothered" for me and is thinking about me all the time and if I know I am in his mind then I would feel he is committed ...if he is committed to the chase and he is allowed to catch his prey I feel he is more apt to appreciate the conquest and he is less likely to ever let anyone else near his prize....a true prize he has worked hard to posess and would most likely value-
    another consideration is that for a girl who has ALOT of energy if he didn't have the energy to catch me he certainly wouldn't be able to tame me or train me after he had me....then we would both be dissappointed.  but oh can you imagine the sparks and fireworks you two can make when you come together!!!!
    everyone has their own desires on what they seek but I feel the chase can be very intense for people who know exactly what they want and they are aggressive to go get it -for me personally I say to all the testosterone driven men who are on the hunt -eat your wheaties take your vitamins and go gettem!!!!!growl (hee hee)


See, I think it's just apples and oranges. Some folks need one thing, some folks need another and neither is better or worse. A chase hard, close to stalking dominant would send me running to the hills. For me, I'm drawn more to  horse whisperers.

"Come on girl."
"That's it, easy. I have something nice in my hand."
"Easy now."

mrowrrr I love patience, evenness, gentleness, resiliance, calm. Yummy yummy.

Odly enough, I am currently in service to a fabulous man who is less of a girl whisperer and more of a stalk and claim sort, at least on the surface. It turned out that in private he had the skills that I look for people to show publically. I didn't pick him out for myself, and probably wouldn't have. He's a wild flirty man in how he presents himself outwardly, and I am a dreadfully serious and ritualistic girl. It took someone else who knew us both to see how our personalities might make an unusally good blend.

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