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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 7:44:29 PM   
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What's there to say?
The guy is an ASSHOLE!
I thought he was going to leave the U.S. if Bush was elected?
I wonder if England would take this ASSHOLE?


There is a reason that South Park, Bigger, Longer, and Uncut, highlighted the apocalyptic war between the US and Canada by having Canada bomb the Baldwins.

Laugh now, but you will feel Satan's (and Saddam's) wrath soon enough.

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p.s.  I can think of any number of people who need a V-chip installed.

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 7:45:45 PM   
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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 8:22:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		       What?  Isn't this exactly the kind of crap we've been hearing him spew for years?  Did people actually think it was all some cute act when he was talking about political/media figures he didn't like?

     He's a nasty tempered jerk.  Abusive.

    But why do I get the feeling this would be a far different thread if it was an outspoken conservative on that tape.....

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 8:29:01 PM   
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       But why do I get the feeling this would be a far different thread if it was an outspoken conservative on that tape.....


You don't think the conversation would be quite the same?

Not quite so much indignation at the mere mention of the story....

Well, as a matter of fact, I don't either - but that's just the way it is, Rich.

That's just the way it is.

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 8:31:31 PM   
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      What?  Isn't this exactly the kind of crap we've been hearing him spew for years?  Did people actually think it was all some cute act when he was talking about political/media figures he didn't like?

    He's a nasty tempered jerk.  Abusive.

   But why do I get the feeling this would be a far different thread if it was an outspoken conservative on that tape.....


may i ask You why You equate this to liberals versus conservatives?  Shouldn't the bottom line be the concern for the child?

minnetar

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 8:34:00 PM   
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may i ask You why You equate this to liberals versus conservatives?  Shouldn't the bottom line be the concern for the child?

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Would that be the bottom line if Alec Baldwin were an outspoken Conservative though, instead of what he is - a huge Bush-bashing moron

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 8:56:26 PM   
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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 8:58:51 PM   
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     What?  Isn't this exactly the kind of crap we've been hearing him spew for years?  Did people actually think it was all some cute act when he was talking about political/media figures he didn't like?

   He's a nasty tempered jerk.  Abusive.

  But why do I get the feeling this would be a far different thread if it was an outspoken conservative on that tape.....


may i ask You why You equate this to liberals versus conservatives?  Shouldn't the bottom line be the concern for the child?

minnetar




      I believe I pointed out an inequity, Minnetar, but whatever.  Enjoy the kool-aid.

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 9:06:16 PM   
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    What?  Isn't this exactly the kind of crap we've been hearing him spew for years?  Did people actually think it was all some cute act when he was talking about political/media figures he didn't like?

  He's a nasty tempered jerk.  Abusive.

But why do I get the feeling this would be a far different thread if it was an outspoken conservative on that tape.....


may i ask You why You equate this to liberals versus conservatives?  Shouldn't the bottom line be the concern for the child?

minnetar




     I believe I pointed out an inequity, Minnetar, but whatever.  Enjoy the kool-aid.

we can respectfully disagree Sir - thanks!!

minnetar

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 9:07:48 PM   
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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 9:08:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		You have to understand minnetar, everything comes back to political ideology for some people, even verbal child abuse. I doubt highly that I would make any different comment about this issue if Charleton Heston had been heard doing the same things. These are actors, not public servants

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 9:13:11 PM   
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These are actors, not public servants


I completely agree with this statement.  I think what happens is when actors, singers, etc., on either side of the political fence make a name for themselves by telling society what is good for all (by way of spouting political beliefs, etc.), they have much farther to fall when they themselves are found living as the antithesis of what they espouse. 

As for listening to the recording, I heard that stuff enough growing up; I don't need to re-live it.  I feel for the girl.

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 9:18:47 PM   
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You have to understand minnetar, everything comes back to political ideology for some people, even verbal child abuse. I doubt highly that I would make any different comment about this issue if Charleton Heston had been heard doing the same things. These are actors, not public servants


you misunderstood - how do you feel about a child being spoken to like that regardless of how it was obtained or whether it is from the right or left - i think the bottom line should be how do you feel about the message to the child

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 9:40:29 PM   
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As for listening to the recording, I heard that stuff enough growing up; I don't need to re-live it.  I feel for the girl.



       I have heard enough to consider myself a student of the communication form.  A cousin and I have been known to use the style for casual conversation (scares the hell out of bystanders too  ).

   
     Years of therapy?  Please.  I suspect she's heard Daddy yell before.  He's an asshole, but normal is what you are used to.  That doesn't make it any less unpleasant and hurtful.

      I don't imagine the 'it's none of our business' spin will last long.  The tape is just too raw and revealing.  He's done.

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 9:48:39 PM   
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But why do I get the feeling this would be a far different thread if it was an outspoken conservative on that tape.....


I don't know, but the idea that conservatives (poor shrinking violets like Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh) are somehow picked on more than everyone else seems to be buzzing in your bonnet a lot lately.

Interesting to see a conservative playing the victim card.

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 9:50:17 PM   
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Poor guy.  I can imagine his frustration. I've tried training dogs, and that was hard enough. It would probably drive me over the edge training a braindead pig. My hats off to the guy for trying.



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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 9:55:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		One of the things that struck me about the phone message was that for most of it, you couldn't tell who he was talking to.  The venom, the pissitude, didn't seem to be aimed at Ireland, but at Kim Bassinger.  "You've humiliated me for the last time ... "  "You are ungrateful and inhuman ... "  He seems so angry, but also ... impotent.  It's the rage of someone who feels fucked over by the other person.  Bizarre that the other would be a child.

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 9:56:23 PM   
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But why do I get the feeling this would be a far different thread if it was an outspoken conservative on that tape.....


I don't know, but the idea that conservatives (poor shrinking violets like Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh) are somehow picked on more than everyone else seems to be buzzing in your bonnet.

Interesting to see a conservative playing the victim card.



     C'mon, DC.  If that was Sean Hannity on the tape, would we be hearing questions of where the tape came from?

     This is just a moment of delay before he feels the full wrath.

      I can't even swear not to see any more of his movies.  The only thing I ever liked 'him' in was Team America.

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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 10:00:41 PM   
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I would be upset to if my child was a pig, or braindead. Poor guy..  Could you imagine the stress of being in the delivery room expecting a health human child and out comes a pig. And then that pig is braindead. But you don't stop trying to teach pig because this "pig" is your offspring, so you spend endless hours trying to teach the pig to answer a phone so you can speak to it when you are working to provide for it, and after years you think you finally have taught it how. Then all your hopes are dashed, and the thing forgets how.

Poor guy.  I can imagine his frustration. I've tried training dogs, and that was hard enough. It would probably drive me over the edge training a braindead pig. My hats off to the guy for trying.





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RE: Alec Baldwin blasts 11-yr old daughter - 4/20/2007 10:02:14 PM   
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Same dynamic we're seeing now. Same one we've seen in countless media frenzies.

The one difference I can imagine would be if the conservative had been a "family values" advocate. Then there'd be a (legitimate imho) hypocrisy angle.

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