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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 9:25:45 PM   
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some of my girls do want more from me than just sex, i try and accomodate that too. it does come around to bite me in the ass sometimes but whatever, it comes with the territory and 20 year old girls love drama anyway. i try to keep my relationships as fun and as light hearted as possible so no one gets attached. i think grief and attachment may be linked. fun is a little more single serving


I have a psychic prediction. Some uber hot smokin smart woman is going to shoot you down so bad that your ego will need to be scraped off the floor. This will happen because you think that she is so magnificent that you just gotta have her. She will bend you like a pretzel and you will ask "how high" when she says "jump". I have seen your type when I was young, and I always pondered how come men could be assholes to nice girls, but the ones that were hard to get and total bitches had them peeing on the floor like love starved puppy dogs. It happened every time.


Julia :)

I was going to say the same thing..but more along the lines of  "and someday..some woman will bitch-slap him into reality" .. but you said it so much nicer .  tahkn quew, daaaahling :)

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 9:47:33 PM   
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If it is true that a dominant is in charge of himself first, then I can’t agree that you are 'showing' any dominance.  You, dear domlybadass boy, are controlled by  your cock.  Ho-hum, not very unique. 


Case in point where any domlybadass mind is controlled by their cock, is subject to being controlled by the power of the almighty pussy it caves for the most.  Upon encountering DomlybitchgirlfromHell who is in control her pussy, she uses the magic bitch powers of her mind to take control of domlybadass boy cock thus taking control of his mind.  Match Point, Game is over.  

Domlybadass has been transformed into sissyboy where he is no longer in control of anything because he was never in control of himself.   Sissyboy formerly known as Domlybadass hides behind the rationalizationed illusion of LOVE for justification for being in a relationship with DomlybitchgirlfromHell.   Everytime a friend or relative reminds sissyboy of his domlybadass past he does not want to talk about it, as if he's ashamed.  Sissyboy is totally convinced that DomlybitchgirlfromHell is the best thing that's happened to him, no matter how much she's taken control of his life.

Is there anybody on the message board who has never seen this happen before?  juliaoceania made a good point and so did catize.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 10:01:32 PM   
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Is there anybody on the message board who has never seen this happen before?  juliaoceania made a good point and so did catize.


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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 10:07:03 PM   
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I think that what separates someone I think of dominant from someone using dominance to get pussy would be the intention of being dominant. It is not a sign of dominance to use manipulation just to get some ass. One thing I have noted about most dominants on this board is that it is about control more than sex. Sex is wonderful, necessary, and not necessarily monogamous, but to truly dominate someone (not just top them) you gotta get into the head, and this young man is doing everything he can to keep these women from getting attached. Doms have no problem with their submissive that they are working with becoming attached... that is part of the process of domming someone (in my opinion at least). What this guy is talking about is like a male version of "The Rules", but instead of how to get married, it is how to get laid

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 10:07:18 PM   
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some of my girls do want more from me than just sex, i try and accomodate that too. it does come around to bite me in the ass sometimes but whatever, it comes with the territory and 20 year old girls love drama anyway. i try to keep my relationships as fun and as light hearted as possible so no one gets attached. i think grief and attachment may be linked. fun is a little more single serving


A couple of things concern me here.  Yes grief and attachment may be linked.  Because some of these girls have simply fallen in love with you and desire commitment.   What's this about 20 year old girls loving drama?  This sounds like you are not taking much responsibility for your own role or hand in causing the Drama.  Actually more like a cheap ass excuse or justification for your own actions.. "it comes with the territory and 20 year old girls love drama anyway."   

So the next time you yourself are feeling emotionally upset over something, would it be fair to say you are upset because you simply Love Drama?   Come on here, if you not wanting a relationship at least you can do is take a little responsibility for the heartache and pain caused from time to time in your mission to get laid.   


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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 10:38:45 PM   
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Funny thing about this.....  Somewhere on another board, there is a post from another 20 year old dom who wonders why he isn't taken seriously.  Doesn't it suck when some people just prove the stereotype?

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 10:42:36 PM   
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Frankly I would enjoy watching my 21 year old UM deal with this one, whether it's him trying to mess her hair or dealing with chemistry. My money is on my UM taking him down bad in both areas. 'Course she's a chemistry major and she played offensive-defensive line on the boys' football team so she's really good at tackling boys....

Just my thoughts.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 10:44:59 PM   
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, come on Irish...say it...

LOL nope, sorry CD...I have actually been a very very good girl on these here boards in the last couple days and I don't plan to wreck it now

though I will admit that with his new postings, it is getting harder and harder to bite my tongue.


Yes, I have noticed you have NOT been as cruel, mean and ugly as you were last week...last month or 3 months ago..... 
I often wondered why you had such a need to be mean, cruel and ugly.
If I were that way, I would be miserable and have absoultely NO friends..and who the crap wants to be that way..to drive people away instead of being the sweetness that draws the honorable?

I am sure that you have heard the phrase 'fuck you' before, right?




Gee whiz !!  Where is Mod XI ??  I said that on a post once and I was told to stop it or I would be banished.    LOL
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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 11:37:42 PM   
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I think there are many people who are not sexually in control of themselves.  Regardless if they are male/female or dom or submissive in nature.   In terms of the OP practicing Domly control techniques on women to fetch him food while his is studying or whatnot, this not does not alarm me much.  Hell, even messing up or messing with a girls hair does not bother me.  It's not the act of messing with the hair, it's how it's done that makes it acceptable or unacceptable.   It can be a fun experience for the women or can be a very offending move.  The thing missing from the OPs post about messing with hair is something called "context" of how this was done.  I believe some people can't see or begin to understand how any women would love to have her hair messed with.   Is this being bold to mess with a womans hair, hell yeah.  It's a sink or swim type of thing.   If a man can mess with a womans hair in a playful and fun way, it can work.  If a man messes with a woman hair in a disrespective, creepy or asshole manner... bad news!  A lot of this depends upon the connection between two people, the moment when it's done in, and the context of how it's done.  I find missing (fill in for yourself blanks in the OPs posts) and it's hard for me to judge these things. He did mention about doing these things in a light hearted playful manner!

It boils down to small levels of basic submission and wanting the attention of the dom or not...

In regards to sex, again  I think there are many people who are not sexually in control of themselves.  Regardless if they are male/female or dom or submissive in nature.

In my own book being a Dom includes using self control, and thinking with the right head.  Reasons for thinking this way I believe a lot of people have covered, ranging from STDs, emotional aspects, and even self control as a foundation for control.

Some of the things the OP has done in a light hearted playful manner, I myself have done without offending or really pissing anybody off.   On one hand I can relate to the OP, on the other hand I can not relate.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 11:41:43 PM   
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Why is there a correct way of incorporating bdsm into your life? Many of you seem very closed minded here which is actually the opposite of what i expected.

For everyone that isn't in a monogomous relationship how do you go about finding people to have sex with? and how do you incorporate bondage into casual sex?

Women have to choose to have sex with me. The only way i thought i had a chance at that happening was by standing out. i stand out by being bold and occasionally saying some outlandish shit. one part of me says if its not broke don't fix it, ive been getting what i want. but maybe one of you has a better angle for me to try.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 11:50:25 PM   
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i think a lot of people are exaggerating how disrespectful i am to girls, i'm talking about little things like for example, i'll help a girl with her chemistry and make her feel a little dumb, but i still helped her right? or telling a girl her six in heels look really confortable and then challenge her to a foot race, or commanding girls to bring me food while im studying. these things show dominance, they are kinda dick but its all fun.



Your kind of getting it now. I am actually happy to read these follow up posts..at least happier than I was before.

Your just looking at it from a very negative and degrading viewpoint.

Its not that your making the girl feal dumb is getting you layed, but rather the fact that you exerted confidence by helping her with the chemistry.

Your viewing this as your objectictation and degradation as what got you layed, when its really more the confidence you have exerted.

By focusing on that confidence, you can still be just as successful with women without any aspect of disrespect.

Plenty of guys do it...even with young girls who dont know any better.


The other issue is that, lots of young girls have the manifesto: "I have the pussy. I make the rules". As soon as you demonstrate that that kind of control technique won't work on you (ie; as soon as you master your penis, leading you into battle), the quicker they will realize that you have some substance to you.
 
Ladies don't want to be mistreated. They want to be secure and they want a man to be man. They know that, eventually, sex is going to come into it but, they want to sense the other things that make them want to submit (in whatever way that may be).
 
When I was your age, I had a "girlfriend" who did nothing more than come to my house, cook and clean and, occasionally, she got some sex. It was, very much, a D/s relationship although I didn't recognize it, as such, at the time.
 
You have a wonderful opportunity to learn about this lifestyle and all it entails, at a very young age. That is a HUGE advantage. Don't squander it. Find an older guy that's been around, for a little while and latch onto him. Learn what it really means to live your life by a code that produces the results that YOU want.
 
Good luck.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/2/2007 11:59:31 PM   
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Why is there a correct way of incorporating bdsm into your life? Many of you seem very closed minded here which is actually the opposite of what i expected.

For everyone that isn't in a monogomous relationship how do you go about finding people to have sex with? and how do you incorporate bondage into casual sex?

Women have to choose to have sex with me. The only way i thought i had a chance at that happening was by standing out. i stand out by being bold and occasionally saying some outlandish shit. one part of me says if its not broke don't fix it, ive been getting what i want. but maybe one of you has a better angle for me to try.


Think you hit the nail on the head, I believe the issues you are facing is over "casual sex" vs. "relationships".  Be it monogomous or poly relationships.  There are many on the message boards who are into D/s dynamics being applied to a "relationship".  It's a bit of a misconception that most people into BDSM are into Casual Sex.   Even people are selective in regards to play partners.   Many things done in terms of BDSM activities require a high degree of trust.   In fact many submissives actually are seeking Dom/mes or Masters to serve on a regular basis.   Many aspects of D/s scream of a dependent relationship to occur.  Be this a 24/7 relationship, weekend only thing, or with selective play partners.  

Even people that are into swinging are selective about who their partners are.  Face it we live in a day and age where STDs can cost you your life.  "casual sex" is the enemy for many relationships.   Many submissives are Jealous creatures!  Remember it is the submissive that wants to please her Dom/Master.  The thoughts of another pleasing her Dom/Master don't sit well with many subs (there are exceptions).   The submissive/slave also looks for the guidence and strength of a Dom/Master.  Do you see where there are problems with having something "casual" going on here?

I think if you take time to explore D/s relationship dynamics in BDSM you'd understand the answer to the Question you just posted here.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 12:05:34 AM   
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Why is there a correct way of incorporating bdsm into your life? Many of you seem very closed minded here which is actually the opposite of what i expected.

For everyone that isn't in a monogomous relationship how do you go about finding people to have sex with? and how do you incorporate bondage into casual sex?

Women have to choose to have sex with me. The only way i thought i had a chance at that happening was by standing out. i stand out by being bold and occasionally saying some outlandish shit. one part of me says if its not broke don't fix it, ive been getting what i want. but maybe one of you has a better angle for me to try.


Why is there a correct way?  Because there is.  *Laughs*

I'm sure with all of the sex you are getting, not much blood is making it to the brain, so let's reiterate some common themes.

Being an a**hole is not the same thing as being a Dom.  Same goes for abusive men who hide behind the lifestyle as their "reason".  The Dominants (won't speak for All) who live this lifestyle, live it in their life.  The more respected Ones aren't out for a quickie to serve only their own needs.  That's one of the major differences between having a f*ck toy and having a sub.

How about these girls that you have been so proud of as your conquests?  Are you watching out for their well being?  Do you consider them under your care during a scene or sex?  How about after care?  Those are things that Doms take into consideration.

You can incorporate bondage into your sex life with anyone who consents, but it's a bit discouraging to hear you call yourself a dom (yeah, I got that small d thing from the other person's post, since in this case, I agree) just because you learned how to tie a knot.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 12:20:14 AM   
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Not to single you out Questingbear, but while I know from some girls I knew in high school that there are girls out there who respond to the a-hole I also know that wasn't me and it wasn't any of my female friends. We all had boyfriends, we all had good grades, and we were all popular without our individual clinques.

Perhaps the girls you targeted were more likely to respond to these tactics but did you really try them on all the girls you could?

Besides saying that this reveals something about girls, perhaps it may also say something about which girls boys approach. In other words, it reveals a good deal about what immature boys and men think should be attractive in an immature girl or woman. Let's consider the OP -- he's looking for sex, right? So what types of girls will he approach? Those whom he thinks may be most open to sex -- probably based on what she says, what she wears, and how she behaves. I'm betting he'll ignore other types of girls.

It's similar to complaints from subs who say everyone they approach turns out to be a pro who demands money. Then you discover that they go for the flashy clothes and the trashy talk and you can only say: maybe you are going after the wrong type of dom.


Agreed. While I tend to look at the OP as a young person who has "discovered" something that's not-so-new, I think that this approach has a limited range of effectiveness. However, he wants to get lots of kinky sex and that's typical male college student thinking. Another poster mentioned that it's not quite dominance, but a particular subset of dominant-appearing characteristics. Perhaps at some point he'll expand his repertoire and be able to command the attention of those who are submissive but would find his style offensive or hilarious.

I can also relate to your point about subs who complain about dominants demanding money. It often turns out that they're searching for a Domme on the basis of looks and/or a profile that includes the equivalent of "kneel before your keyboard and begin your virtual worship of my feet, pig".

I'll give the OP credit for finding the message board and making an effort to post. I feel somewhat indulgent cuz he's a little cutie. I'd do an atomic Aunt Bertha double cheek pinch on him if he ever tried those tactics on me though.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 12:59:25 AM   
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Why is there a correct way of incorporating bdsm into your life? Many of you seem very closed minded here which is actually the opposite of what i expected.

For everyone that isn't in a monogomous relationship how do you go about finding people to have sex with? and how do you incorporate bondage into casual sex?

Women have to choose to have sex with me. The only way i thought i had a chance at that happening was by standing out. i stand out by being bold and occasionally saying some outlandish shit. one part of me says if its not broke don't fix it, ive been getting what i want. but maybe one of you has a better angle for me to try.


Actually you asked what other Doms views were and for submissives to feel free in sharing their thoughts as well.  Like my Aunt used to say, "If you can't take the heat you shouldn't be cooking in the kitchen". 

The title of this thread "Doms should show dominance everywhere",  I would agree with this.  However being Dom is not just some act or mask to wear. It's simply who are really are.  Dominance and getting laid are two different things.  I still believe you need to decouple "sex" and "dominance" from one another.

In terms of casual sex, that's your choice and your partners choices as well.  They should be aware that you are into casual sex, and that you have multiple causual sex partners.  Yes, you should let the women you are screwing know that you are screwing other women too.  They need to be aware of the Risk factors in having sex with you.  

Beware that if you become infected with HIV or HEP and spread it to 20 women, that the fun wild sex will become a life changing event you can not undo or take back or change.  Things like HPV a cancer causing virus are another issue.  You should be aware of the implications casual sex can have on yourself and other people.   Do you honestly view or somehow believe "casual sex" is responsible behavior considering the risks?  Have you considered simply establishing a play partner (fuck buddy) relationship limited to one or a couple of women?   What makes you believe you are so unstoppable, that you are confident you can not catch HIV or some other nasty STD?  You said in your post you felt unstoppable.

I'm sorry you don't my stamp of "casual sex" approval on this thread.  You are not going to get it from me that's for damn sure.  I know I'm not telling you want you are wanting to hear.  I am telling you what I honestly think and feel.  Sure there are also emotionally implications involved in "casual sex", however there are other things of greater consideration to take into account for.

One of the beautiful aspects of having D/s relationships, is the fact you can be in a relationship and get all the Nasty Dirty Kinky Sex while maintaining a working healthy relationship with somebody.    Also you get to work out and deal with relationship control dyanmics at the same time.  Should be a win win relationship.  Without having to resort to casual sex as a means to get your kink on.    Many vanilla go out and cheat because they feel to ashamed of getting Nasty with somebody they love at home.   If anything certain aspects of D/s and BDSM promote having a stronger relationship not weaker ones where people have to look outside the relationship itself for pleasure and satisfaction.

Time for me to step down off my soap box and post this... 

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 1:24:00 AM   
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Being a younger bloke myself I can kiiind of understand what you're going through, VASDEF187.  Having said that I am completely aware of the differences between being dominant and domineering.  You my friend, are the latter.  I've been involved in this lifestyle well before this community or any other would consider it appropriate (I was 16 when I first found Gor).  So if you can't find an older Dominant/Master to have a chat with, send me a message, we can have a chat.
But mate, don't begin to think of yourself as a Dominant or Master when all you're doing is walking all over a few doormats in order to get some tail, you are neither.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 1:30:20 AM   
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There is no ONE correct way of implementing anything into your or someone else's life.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 1:40:19 AM   
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Why is there a correct way of incorporating bdsm into your life? Many of you seem very closed minded here which is actually the opposite of what i expected.

For everyone that isn't in a monogomous relationship how do you go about finding people to have sex with? and how do you incorporate bondage into casual sex?

Women have to choose to have sex with me. The only way i thought i had a chance at that happening was by standing out. i stand out by being bold and occasionally saying some outlandish shit. one part of me says if its not broke don't fix it, ive been getting what i want. but maybe one of you has a better angle for me to try.


I've missed a couple of pages in this thread and so apologies if I am repeating what anyone has said

But in reply to you vas - you're having kinky sex - and in lots of ways, good on you. Kinky sex is great. For many people it's the first sign they can latch onto that they are into BDSM. You're not a dom though and the women you sleep with aren't subs IMHO. You all may have potential to be those things but right now you're a young man who likes schtupping as many women as he can get his hands on in a slightly kinky way. You've found a routine that works for you and I for one am not gonna haul you over the coals for that.  It's not unusual for 19 year olds to be obsessed by sex. And at least you are being upfront about what you're doing. I think where you've come unstuck is in bringing your experience onto here and labelling it Dom behaviour - because that's going to get a lot of people's backs up because it doesn't fit in with what the overall code of Dom behaviour is. Not good Doms anyway. But 19, 29, 39, there are men out there who act like you act. Does it mean they are dominants that the subs on here would recognise and want to play with? I don't think so. Does it mean that the Doms on here would see brotherhood in you? I doubt it.

Enjoy yourself. Be responsible. Both for everyone's health and everyone's mental well being. And if you do think that BDSM is where your urges are taking you then get learning and get growing.


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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 2:30:52 AM   
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I have to agree alot with the Mad Rabbit we or a lot of us I am sure were quite the same way in our youth if we got luckly ,and some around here didnt ,we matured learned some manners met some older people who guided us along a more sane path and I like to think we became something better .

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 6:09:46 AM   
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Why is there a correct way of incorporating bdsm into your life? Many of you seem very closed minded here which is actually the opposite of what i expected.

For everyone that isn't in a monogomous relationship how do you go about finding people to have sex with? and how do you incorporate bondage into casual sex?

Women have to choose to have sex with me. The only way i thought i had a chance at that happening was by standing out. i stand out by being bold and occasionally saying some outlandish shit. one part of me says if its not broke don't fix it, ive been getting what i want. but maybe one of you has a better angle for me to try.


Yes girls choose to have sex with you.

And no there isn't a correct or incorrect way, as long as you've got consent and all that jazz. But basically what you are asking is the question that every 19 year old man asks: How do I get laid?

But there is a large difference between being a dominant and being an asshole. You can be an asshole while being a dominant and it means you'll get about the same treatment as a vanilla asshole. Girls will fuck you until they realize you are a POS and then they will leave for bigger and much better things. The only difference is that they might stay a little longer while looking down their nose at you because you can provide a service they want.

And yes, that is exactly how I meant to say it. However, the angle I would suggest trying is just being yourself. Because when you get older and it's women you are messing around with, not girls who don't know better, your current plan probably won't work as well. I've slept with the assholes. And left them. Then I discovered the nice gamer geek boys. Sweet, polite, but oh so very very very naughty and oh so very willing to have all the kinky sex our bodies could handle. Then I "settled" down to just one of them.

You'd be surprised how overtly dominant those men become once you get them alone.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 5/3/2007 6:11:07 AM >


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