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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 6:19:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VASDEF187

so i am a 20 year old college student and like many people i am trying to learn the art of finding attracive people to have sex with. i definetly prefer being a Dominant when it comes to sex but when sexual encounters are infrequent beggers can't be choosers meaning i'de take sex however i can get it. However, lately i have been getting a lot of sex with lots of different women exactly how i want it. And latley i have changed the way i talk to women. because i am a Dominant when it comes to sex, i decided to try showing more dominance when i talk to women. i show dominance in conversations the same way i show dominance in sex. to show dominance in conversations with women you should make fun of them, mess up their hair, make them feel stupid, humilliate them, pick at their flaws, and objectify them. if you can do this in a light hearted playful manner girls will want you to fuck them. psychologically you have already shown so much dominance that in the bedroom you call all the shots. lately i have been fucking girls howevery i want, whenever i want. and they like it. is this how nature intended us to behave? do you male Doms out their veiw yourself as an alpha male? subs feel free to give your thoughts too.


So you role play to get what you want....

I suppose that is what happens when you can't get what you want with who you are. 

Some put on a set of behaviors to protray Dominance.  Others... behave without any conscious effort and are seen as Dominant by others.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 7:17:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VASDEF187

with a long term relationship it is easy to transform the sex into whatever you want it to be. sorry a im twenty and i am not really looking for a long term relationship with all sorts of emoltional investments. but i do like bondage and rough sex. for a while i found it difficult to mix my fetishes with my promiscuouity becasue i thought girls would think i am weird. what is cool is that most girls i've been with have liked my kinky side and found the sex to be very enjoyable. maybe more people are into or at least open to bdsm than i thought.

If you don't want to settle down with one girl, that's fine.  By all means, have fun.  Just be responsible about it.  Right now BDSM has become quite a fad with a lot of people, you're probably just starting to figure out just how popular.  There are a lot of people splashing around in the "shallow end of the pool."  Nothing wrong with that.  Here's what you don't seem to have quite figured out.  You're now talking with people who regularly "scuba dive in the deep end of the pool" and what they're trying to tell you is that if you're serious about this then your methods won't work in the "deep end" and if you keep going the way you're going, you're gonna "drown."

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i think a lot of people are exaggerating how disrespectful i am to girls, i'm talking about little things like for example, i'll help a girl with her chemistry and make her feel a little dumb, but i still helped her right? or telling a girl her six in heels look really confortable and then challenge her to a foot race, or commanding girls to bring me food while im studying. these things show dominance, they are kinda dick but its all fun.

People play humiliation games all the time.  But, don't mistake a game for dominance.  What you're saying sounds like you need to make a girl feel dumb or insecure in order to dominate her.  What happens when you run into a gal who isn't insecure and won't buy that?  What happens when you start to realize the only gals you are attracting are the dumb, insecure, needy, clinging, likely to stalk you types?  What happens when you start to realize there are some women out there who are a lot more interesting, that are now out of your reach?  Which is what Michael was alluding to when he said this...
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

No offense but you are unstoppable with little girls.  Getting a strong independent woman who can have anyone she wants to be willing to bend her knee before you is an entirely different proposition.


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thanks for your posts, ive read them all. things change all the time and i am sure what i want out of women will too. but right now i think i am doing exactly what i am suppossed to.

Don't think it... be damn sure... cause if a lot of people with more experience than you are telling you you might want to rethink things... before you decide not to listen, you better be damn sure of yourself.  In the end, its on you, you're the one who will have to deal with how it affects your life.  Ain't my problem, isn't going to affect me if you turn out to be wrong.

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ORIGINAL: VASDEF187

Why is there a correct way of incorporating bdsm into your life? Many of you seem very closed minded here which is actually the opposite of what i expected.

There are definitely some things that are wrong... and there are definitely some things that do work.  What some are trying to tell you is, what you are doing now will not work for long.   You have a very narrow and limited understanding of dominance, people who have a lot more experience with it are trying to get you to realize there is a lot more too it than being a lil pushy, a lil arrogant, a lil condescending, and getting laid.  Actually, there's a lot more to it.

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For everyone that isn't in a monogomous relationship how do you go about finding people to have sex with? and how do you incorporate bondage into casual sex?

I attract them, plain and simple.  I turn down more offers from others than I accept.  I'm honest about who I am and what I want, by the time it comes to sex, they already know what I expect and what will happen.

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Women have to choose to have sex with me. The only way i thought i had a chance at that happening was by standing out. i stand out by being bold and occasionally saying some outlandish shit. one part of me says if its not broke don't fix it, ive been getting what i want. but maybe one of you has a better angle for me to try.

Did you ever consider maybe it is broke and you haven't enough experience to realize what you are missing?  I'll agree with you, you need to stand out.  I stand out.  The question people are trying to get you to consider is how you choose to stand out.

You made the claim that dominants should be dominant everywhere.  That's where we agree.  Here's the thing, what you are describing isn't being dominant everywhere, its being dominant with some silly, insecure 20 somethings so you can get laid.  Now if you're serious about being dominant, and being dominant everywhere, you need to rethink that.  Because those methods are not going to work when you need a waiter to give you good service at a resteraunt (more likely they'll be spitting in your food when you aren't looking), your methods won't work at a job (where instead you most likely get you fired), and they won't work with people who are secure about themselves who will most likely just get pissed with you.  Being an asshole, being arrogant, condescending, being a bully are the poorest forms of dominance, and some of the weakest. 

If you really want to dominate people (anyone), learn to build them up, learn to make them feel better about themselves, learn to encourage them to try new things.  So far sounds like all you've done is try to control their self esteem by lowering it.  There's far more power in controling someone's self esteem by raising it.

So the question is, do you just want to get laid and have some kinky sex... or do you really want to be dominant?  Deep end or the shallow end of the pool? 


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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 8:06:56 AM   
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You know, my father, bless his heart, told me that boys who talk about their conquests must talk because they have nothing else. In general what they talk about are fantasies not experiences.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 9:11:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I think that what separates someone I think of dominant from someone using dominance to get pussy would be the intention of being dominant. It is not a sign of dominance to use manipulation just to get some ass. One thing I have noted about most dominants on this board is that it is about control more than sex. Sex is wonderful, necessary, and not necessarily monogamous, but to truly dominate someone (not just top them) you gotta get into the head, and this young man is doing everything he can to keep these women from getting attached. Doms have no problem with their submissive that they are working with becoming attached... that is part of the process of domming someone (in my opinion at least). What this guy is talking about is like a male version of "The Rules", but instead of how to get married, it is how to get laid


One thing he needs to  know: 
 
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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 9:17:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile

Think you hit the nail on the head, I believe the issues you are facing is over "casual sex" vs. "relationships".  Be it monogomous or poly relationships.  There are many on the message boards who are into D/s dynamics being applied to a "relationship".  It's a bit of a misconception that most people into BDSM are into Casual Sex.   Even people are selective in regards to play partners.   Many things done in terms of BDSM activities require a high degree of trust.   In fact many submissives actually are seeking Dom/mes or Masters to serve on a regular basis.   Many aspects of D/s scream of a dependent relationship to occur.  Be this a 24/7 relationship, weekend only thing, or with selective play partners.  

Even people that are into swinging are selective about who their partners are.  Face it we live in a day and age where STDs can cost you your life.  "casual sex" is the enemy for many relationships.   Many submissives are Jealous creatures!  Remember it is the submissive that wants to please her Dom/Master.  The thoughts of another pleasing her Dom/Master don't sit well with many subs (there are exceptions).   The submissive/slave also looks for the guidence and strength of a Dom/Master.  Do you see where there are problems with having something "casual" going on here?

I think if you take time to explore D/s relationship dynamics in BDSM you'd understand the answer to the Question you just posted here.


Whiplash,
 
Thank you for actually taking the time to try to HELP this guy underestand instead of verbally slapping him on the back with a "You go GUY!".     Good post :)

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 11:29:21 AM   
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Well said Padriag.  I hope he's listening with both ears.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 2:15:42 PM   
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Since you played the “Judgment” card, I’ll play my “Common Sense” card.
 
The girls you play with have just gone through puberty and suffered through the awkward stage both in appearance and trying to find themselves.  They’ve just finished the humiliation of juvenile minds that think they are empowered to make fun of people at this stage of life.   They are just getting a grip on entering the outside world as well as personal relationships.
 
This just broke my heart reading this:

<< to show dominance in conversations with women you should make fun of them, mess up their hair, make them feel stupid, humiliate them, pick at their flaws, and objectify them.>>
 
They have just gone through this.  I can guarantee you they DO NOT like it.  Your actions are insensitive just as kicking a puppy would be.
 
<< If you can do this in a light hearted playful manner girls will want you to fuck them>>
 
Ruffling their hair playfully maybe... unless they are really into their hair and take time to style it and look their best... if so then after you do this gig... you might be pulling back a bloody nub instead of your hand.
 
<< Psychologically you have already shown so much dominance that in the bedroom you call all the shots. Lately I have been fucking girls however I want, whenever I want. and they like it. Is this how nature intended us to behave? >>

I give the younger generation of females credit for expressing their sexuality up front.  What they are responding to is your virility and you present yourself as an easy lay.  They will play your game to get what they want and you are
VERY easily manipulated by a smile or a flash of a cleavage.  They are in control. not you.  You are as much in control as a fish taking bait.


<< do you male Doms out their view yourself as an alpha male? subs feel free to give your thoughts too.  >>
 
One does not see themself as ‘alpha’ anything... that is determined by the people you interact with.  I give you a ‘kappa’.  If you want into the D/s gig, know that the reputation you establish in your beginnings is the one that sticks with you.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 2:21:24 PM   
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I had a long long explanation on the difference between "acting" Dominant and "being" Dominant. It was damned good really. I've a paper due that I'm editing at the same time and it timed out. Grrr. Instead of explaining it all again I'm going to ask the OP what he thinks the difference is between acting Dominant and being Dominant.

On a side note it would be interesting for him to come back round in say 10 years and see if he still holds the same ideas as he has now.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 3:16:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: MsLadySue

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

...  this is one boy that needs to receive a "Come to Jesus" major strapon session .


Raises hand and volunteers!  ^5's to you LotusSong


Yeeeeee-ha!  I love double teaming!  The first one to make him cry get's a Hershy bar!!  (Do want to take the front or the back..?)


A young domme finds CM, she is full of piss and vinegar knowing all there is to know.
One dom says to the other dom:
"First to fuck her in the ass gets a candy bar,  lets see who makes her cry first."

That'll teach her.

??



edit, cropped last sentence by mistake


< Message edited by cjenny -- 5/3/2007 3:18:16 PM >


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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 4:24:12 PM   
LotusSong


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ORIGINAL: cjenny



Yeeeeee-ha!  I love double teaming!  The first one to make him cry get's a Hershy bar!!  (Do want to take the front or the back..?)


A young domme finds CM, she is full of piss and vinegar knowing all there is to know.
One dom says to the other dom:
"First to fuck her in the ass gets a candy bar,  lets see who makes her cry first."

That'll teach her.

??



edit, cropped last sentence by mistake



Sorry, not the same impact.. but nice try though :)  ROFL!  You see the mental image is SO much more funny in my scenario.  (but I will tell you, I'd feel the same about a young Domme coming across the same way)

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 4:38:07 PM   
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The OP was raised by his mothers and sisters, I wonder what he would do if his sisters were treated in the same manner that he is treating the ladies? 
 
Hey, it is like Karma, whatever you give to someone, it will come back to haunt you.

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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 6:26:39 PM   
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invites the OP to come over to the stupity and pools section and appear in the subs don't know there place ...or I am the master game show...
And we will teach him.....
OP You ain't got a hair on your ass * giggles*
Now can we discuss something else please ???
like how come I did'n get laid in 2 month ???
OOHH HH DOOEEHHHH  
now I know why ... I refuse to be misstreated ......  *smacks forehead*
*makes mental note*  you must let them tread you like shit and you will get laid....
ahh screw it ... I have two good working hands... so I DON'T NEED YOU .. * sticks tongue out*
I'm going back onto the cruise ship to my cabana boys.....
I wonder if he is really that good in bed or if he only last 2 seconds with his 1 inch uhhmmm never mind I'm outta here
CABANA BOY A LARGE DRINK PLEASSEEEEEEEEEE


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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 6:40:50 PM   
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RE: Doms should show dominance everywhere - 5/3/2007 6:53:34 PM   
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*laughing hysterically at greed* Come on now, don't hold back woman, let it out!

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