popeye1250
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Race is not just defined by Genetics. Its also defined by culture and ancestory, such as the English and German races, while both Causasian are also seperate identeties.
PS5, if that's the criteria the govt. uses then they're fucked.
You could "claim" to be any "race" under that!
(A disgression, thank you to Dr.Sylvia Spengler, principal investigator of the Human Genome Project)
Do you agree that genetics is what makes what we are biologically? Popeye, here is what Dr. Spengler, of the Human Genome Project, says about the concept of race in humanity: "Race is something we do to each other; it has nothing to do with what our DNA does to us." (I'm trying to keep it simple.)
So I hear you ask: "I see race! There are obvious physical differences between groups of humans! I see different skin colours! That must be based on genetics and it's the proof race exist!" .
Fine then, let's use the example of skin colour (people's favourite). Melanin is the substance that colours our skin. The different shades of melanin that appear on our skin is indeed controlled by genes to a minute extent. But this is how small that extent is: each cell in the human body has 100,000 genes; only about six genes control skin color. Here is a concrete example of this: take a group of four men. Two are black, two are white. There is one short black man, and one tall black man; there is one short white man, and one tall white man.
Well, surprisingly for some, "the tall person and the short person are significantly more different than the black man and the white man of a similar height". That's because there are dozens of genes that control our height. Not just six.
Race is a pure invention: you might have more in common genetically with an African Bushman than with your own Irish cousin. It's a social construct, it's been around for a long time, but it's not accurate scientifically. It may reassure a few people to feel they have 'Irish blood' or (god forbid!) 'Celtic blood' but it's completely innacurate.
From an ethnically-mixed heritage, I salute you :-)
PS: Manning was a fat bastard and I don't think he was funny; let's hope he is cavorting in hell with tousands of black-jewish-gay-single-mothers-with herpes-from Brighton-pro-European demons 
KittenSol, tell that to "La Raza" who are trying to claim that "Hispanic" is a "race" probably to try to claim some type of "advantage" in our laws against illegal aliens.
"It's not a racial thing, it's a LEGAL thing."
Evidently they don't think our immigration laws should apply to illegal alien Hispanics.
It's groups like that that are trying to make a big deal out of "race" as if one race should be "favored" over another.
I'd be perfectly happy to live in a "raceless" society where one would be hired on the basis of test results alone and there'd be no "affirmative action" programs or anything of that sort.
You wouldn't get any argument from me!
You would however get arguments from "minority" groups who try to use "race" as an advantage or an excuse.
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