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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

Hell yes.  Me likey.  

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ORIGINAL: NovelApproach

Ohh, now that's an idea with a whole lot of possibilities.  And if one were into cross-dressing or costume fetishism, having a sub dress up in either an elaborate Geisha's kimono or traditional male kimono could be a lot of fun.

Hmm... I'm taking my sub to Obon-dori (a traditional midsummer japanese celebration) soon, maybe I should dress him up in what I normally wear. 

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

During a recent conversation I was discussing the importance of Geisha within society in Japanese history. A recent thread regarding butlers within the board brought to mind the possibility of a male equivalent of the geisha.

Hummm time to do some research on Geisha training.

The comment made was that essentially a male version of a Geisha would make the perfect male wife. They are trained in very specific arts with which to entertain such as dance or music. They are known for their charm, demureness, wit and intelligence. They are trained in etiquette, service, and to be entertaining and delightful. Their training serves them to be the perfect companion no matter the circumstances they find themselves in. They have years of training in which they are moved up in rank according to their accomplishments in learning their various skills.
They have years of training?  They are trained in etiquette, service and entertaining?

It is not uncommon for Geisha to have many clients but only one Danna (or patron) with which an emotional relationship is shared. Not quite what I'm looking for to that extent, I'm a bit selfish and prefer to keep what's mine for my own use rather than share. I see it more as the training and the pride in service that intrigues me regarding the mindset of a Geisha and transferring it into the training and mindset of a male submissive or male wife.

Perhaps some would consider this to be the equivalent of a butler but I see it differently. In my opinion a butler is closer to the aspect of male servant that is unobtrusive and inconpicuous. Whereas a male geisha is a true companion and amusing presence in the life of their Dominant. While both are committed to service, geisha hold a far more interpersonal connection and dynamic than that of a butler.

I appreciate your comments and opinions. Any thoughts? Am I the only person that sees where this mindset would be a wonderful thing in regard to a submissive or male wife?

I love the idea of a male Geisha, but now I am a tad depressed because I don't know how to find a male Geisha, and reality is crashing
down on my head.
Great idea though, Jo.
You have certainly given us something to think about!

PS
No, I have not gone batty due to classwork and studying having come to an end. Although it's perfectly reasonable that it could be assumed to be so.

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

During a recent conversation I was discussing the importance of Geisha within society in Japanese history. A recent thread regarding butlers within the board brought to mind the possibility of a male equivalent of the geisha.

Hummm time to do some research on Geisha training.

The comment made was that essentially a male version of a Geisha would make the perfect male wife. They are trained in very specific arts with which to entertain such as dance or music. They are known for their charm, demureness, wit and intelligence. They are trained in etiquette, service, and to be entertaining and delightful. Their training serves them to be the perfect companion no matter the circumstances they find themselves in. They have years of training in which they are moved up in rank according to their accomplishments in learning their various skills.
They have years of training?  They are trained in etiquette, service and entertaining?

It is not uncommon for Geisha to have many clients but only one Danna (or patron) with which an emotional relationship is shared. Not quite what I'm looking for to that extent, I'm a bit selfish and prefer to keep what's mine for my own use rather than share. I see it more as the training and the pride in service that intrigues me regarding the mindset of a Geisha and transferring it into the training and mindset of a male submissive or male wife.

Perhaps some would consider this to be the equivalent of a butler but I see it differently. In my opinion a butler is closer to the aspect of male servant that is unobtrusive and inconpicuous. Whereas a male geisha is a true companion and amusing presence in the life of their Dominant. While both are committed to service, geisha hold a far more interpersonal connection and dynamic than that of a butler.

I appreciate your comments and opinions. Any thoughts? Am I the only person that sees where this mindset would be a wonderful thing in regard to a submissive or male wife?

I love the idea of a male Geisha, but now I am a tad depressed because I don't know how to find a male Geisha, and reality is crashing
down on my head.
Great idea though, Jo.
You have certainly given us something to think about!

PS
No, I have not gone batty due to classwork and studying having come to an end. Although it's perfectly reasonable that it could be assumed to be so.

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

This sounds like a lovely idea and I agree with you, I do not like to share my sub either so that would be out. But for him to learn to serve and entertain like this would be something I would be interested in.

~Lashra

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ORIGINAL: Nikko1962


Lovely post and thoughts.  Very interesting idea.  The male wife as a geisha.  I would expect the male wife as you describe in other posts, would be expected to be, among other things, a charming host, conversationalist and possibly even an entertainer.  In particular as a host of a dinner party, I can somehow see the expectations of the domme (Danna) that the male-wife (Geisha) be expected to understand and prepare for the particular interests of the guests.  For example, possible culinary restrictions, any allergies, hobbies and interests, etc.  Even those of us (me) with limited social skills would have to become adept at small talk and breaking the ice between strangers at a party.  Making them feel welcome and part of the evenings conversations and festivities.  The role of the Geisha is to be very unobtrusive while at the same time the glue that holds the evening together.  Making sure that wine glasses are never empty, etc.   A successful evening for a Geisha is to have never spoken about herself, only the interests of her guests.
 
On a side note about Japan, Geisha are certainly not prostitutes in any form whatsoever and Samurai are not merely swordsman.

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ORIGINAL: aidan

What's the tuition, and do you offer night courses?

I'm all for the idea of being a "male geisha". I have an interest in Japanese culture, the costuming and ceremony involved in the geisha concept are delightful, and it seems like a really unique approach to male submission. Yet another way to make one's self useful to their partner; that's always a good thing.

I was actually talking with a group a few weeks ago about an idea I had for a the combined role of a samurai and geisha (with accompanying outfit!). Some purists might scoff, but...meh. It fits me pretty well, I think. And the root of samurai is "one who serves", so it's not too far of a stretch for a submissive.

I just wish I could do my hair up all fancy-like. Tight, knotted curls don't lend themselves too well. :-s

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ORIGINAL: switchsecrets

does ballroom training count?