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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 12:33:36 PM

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I'm sorry...I just think you have a poor example here.

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 12:37:12 PM

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What is it with people thinking Dom and top are the same word?

Anyways...the other questions is based on one thing...

the bottom is the one who would initiate TFTB...not the top....so why do people think it has to do with the Top being "weak"?

As a presenter I'm with LA...let's make it a GOOD thing.

I just really liked this point, especially as when I top, I am still not in authority. Not many people 'get' this point.

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 12:46:42 PM

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Darcy...I understand completely!

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:05:54 PM

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I'm sorry...I just think you have a poor example here.

lol
you asked a question..some one explains by the use of an example..and you find it a bad example.
That means you know the answer...else you can't judge about it ;)

but on the other side..perhaps it is bad.
But those who don't try..fail always.

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:06:17 PM

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It's .dark. posting - Darcy is away.

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:07:51 PM

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Not many people 'get' this point.

could also mean..it is no point.
Strength in numbers?

well still it is an interesting view...but still one of many I guess..and as valuable

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:09:29 PM

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lol
you asked a question..some one explains by the use of an example..and you find it a bad example.
That means you know the answer...else you can't judge about it ;)

but on the other side..perhaps it is bad.
But those who don't try..fail always.

I must be missing the point also, D.
So if Darcy decides to punch me, and I let it happen, but did not initiate it - I am weak?

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:11:58 PM

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Not many people 'get' this point.

could also mean..it is no point.
Strength in numbers?

well still it is an interesting view...but still one of many I guess..and as valuable

Oh, there is a point. But just not everyone sees the same points. Its like beauty, not everyone sees the same thing as beautiful, but it's still there.

Numbers are irrelevant - as long as the people involved together get the same point.

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:12:05 PM

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lol
you asked a question..some one explains by the use of an example..and you find it a bad example.
That means you know the answer...else you can't judge about it ;)

but on the other side..perhaps it is bad.
But those who don't try..fail always.

I must be missing the point also, D.
So if Darcy decides to punch me, and I let it happen, but did not initiate it - I am weak?

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not defending yourself is...weak yes...
but as I said..perhaps it is a bad example. But to judge about an answer..you must know the real answer ;)

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:13:09 PM

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Not many people 'get' this point.

could also mean..it is no point.
Strength in numbers?

well still it is an interesting view...but still one of many I guess..and as valuable

Oh, there is a point. But just not everyone sees the same points. Its like beauty, not everyone sees the same thing as beautiful, but it's still there.

Numbers are irrelevant - as long as the people involved together get the same point.

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agree..

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:16:13 PM

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not defending yourself is...weak yes...
but as I said..perhaps it is a bad example. But to judge about an answer..you must know the real answer ;)

Maybe I am just missing something. Are you talking from a fighting POV or a action between a dominant and their submissive POV? Because if Darcy punched me, and I submit to it, that doesn't make me weak at all.

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:22:27 PM

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not defending yourself is...weak yes...
but as I said..perhaps it is a bad example. But to judge about an answer..you must know the real answer ;)

Maybe I am just missing something. Are you talking from a fighting POV or a action between a dominant and their submissive POV? Because if Darcy punched me, and I submit to it, that doesn't make me weak at all.

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it wasn't about submitting. It was about a punch in general. Most people don't see a punch as normal..lol
Sometimes I give examples about outside the lifestyle.

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:23:14 PM

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Because if Darcy punched me, and I submit to it, that doesn't make me weak at all.

But, if YOU punched DARCY, and he didn't defend himself?

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:23:25 PM

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If some one wants to punch you..and you didn't initiate it..but you allow it to happen..you are weak.

You could also be blind, have your back turned, have slow reaction time, be paralyzed, a pacifist, or told to so by your Master.

Since you used "wants to punch you" it implies that you may not be in the same room, or plane of existence as the person desiring to punch you in the first place; weakness or strength doesn't come into play.

Then again, being punched may be the thing that gets you off. Therefor it doesn't mean you are weak, it can mean you are having sex as you define it.

Any example open to this much interpretation can't be "bad" can it?

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:23:44 PM

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Oh, there is a point. But just not everyone sees the same points.

isn't that called opinion?

lol

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:25:31 PM

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If some one wants to punch you..and you didn't initiate it..but you allow it to happen..you are weak.
You could also be blind, have your back turned, have slow reaction time, be paralyzed, a pacifist, or told to so by your Master.

Since you used "wants to punch you" it implies that you may not be in the same room, or plane of existence as the person desiring to punch you in the first place; weakness or strength doesn't come into play.

Then again, being punched may be the thing that gets you off. Therefor it doesn't mean you are weak, it can mean you are having sex as you define it.

Any example open to this much interpretation can't be "bad" can it?

yes and we could fantasize way longer about it..
lol

I said..It might have been a wrong example (post 84, this is 96)

Feel free to give her better examples..to asnwer her question.
I tried

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:32:35 PM

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Because if Darcy punched me, and I submit to it, that doesn't make me weak at all.

But, if YOU punched DARCY, and he didn't defend himself?

I'm probably the 'wrong' person to ask that.
But I will answer.

I will take the question as it pertains to BDSM. As I top on occasion, if Darcy desired me to punch him, and I did so during a topping session and he did not defend himself (why would he?) - it would not make him weak.

Regardless - I would not punch someone I topped without prior discussion as to whether they would enjoy it or not. Communication is a wonderous thing. But then I am in a relationship where topping from below occurs - because when I top Darcy he still has total authority. And that is the 'point' that few 'get'.

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:36:21 PM

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it wasn't about submitting. It was about a punch in general. Most people don't see a punch as normal..lol
Sometimes I give examples about outside the lifestyle.

OK, that makes a bit more sense to me in your reasoning now. We had crossed wires.
But even so, if someone punched, I would find it weak if someone responded with another punch, and total strength in turning and walking away.

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:38:01 PM

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Oh, there is a point. But just not everyone sees the same points.

isn't that called opinion?

lol

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RE: Topping from the Bottom Misused and Overused? - 2/28/2008 1:38:17 PM

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hi dark! lol...damnit with the couple's profiles

Anyways...I said I didn't think it was a good example because it couldn't be understood in relation to the topic at hand...seems I'm not the only one who feels that way. That's all. Doesn't mean I have the answer. In fact I don't. I tend to disagree with the notion that the D-type is always responsible for every last thing. So of course I don't understand why people make that statement.

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