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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/11/2008 7:47:52 PM   
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Many of us single women do it because we have to... When two people are involved, its very reasonable to think that 2 people work split in two less of a load on person making both happier and content. Besides, I learned long ago... yard work and kittens dont mix well. I have the scars to prove it too. Im not knocking the slaves that do everything. If it works it works....

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/11/2008 7:48:44 PM   
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The subject of the thread made me chuckle.  I recently witnessed a scene in an event playspace where a top sat in a chair and drummed and occasionally offered advice while the bottom tied and suspended herself.  Talk about the sub doing EVERYTHING for you?!??!

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/11/2008 8:08:16 PM   
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Echoing what others have said, it really does not take all that much to run a house if you A don't have ridiculous expectations of perfection and B are organized and on-the-ball.

It also helps to minimize clutter.

I do the cooking. Everything else is women's work.


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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/11/2008 8:25:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tigerstyle

Echoing what others have said, it really does not take all that much to run a house if you A don't have ridiculous expectations of perfection and B are organized and on-the-ball.

It also helps to minimize clutter.

I do the cooking. Everything else is women's work.



I agree for the most part but I have also have shared the cooking because of what I like to cook.

However, a slave is supposed to do the housework while a master is to be the financial role model. He is to train his slaves on those aspects of life that are...work, save and invest.

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/11/2008 8:47:00 PM   
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Well, speaking only for myself I've never met any Master that did nothing while the slave did everything.  I for example mow the yard, trim the hedges, edge the driveway/sidewalk, spray for bugs, clean the vehicles, take them to the shop when nescessary, replace shingles on the roof, etc. (basically all the outside stuff).

But if a "Master" indeed just sits around and does nothing then yes I'd say he's being lazy.

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/11/2008 8:50:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Padriag

Sometimes its the slave who is being lazy.

I had a submissive staying with me for awhile who aspired to be my slave.  Her only job was to clean the house, cook the meals, do the laundry and serve me.  Meanwhile I worked full time running my various businesses, plus construction, plus all the other stuff I do.  My days are often 10-12 hour days.

The problem was she couldn't keep up with me.  I work hard, I expect a slave to work hard.

You bet your ass a slave is there to serve me... I work damn hard and have built a good life for myself, one where I can afford to support a slave or three.  I intend to enjoy it.  So while I don't particularly have a problem with being a "sugar daddy"... they are soooooo gonna earn it.


Good point there.  I work a day job and a part time side job.   Plus I take care of the outside of my house.  I don't think it's too much to ask for a slave to take care of the inside after working a day job.

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/11/2008 8:56:47 PM   
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Thank you for everyones thoughts on this topic. I posted it after being annoyed at the amount of people i have come across that expect that it doesn't matter if both the Master and slave are working full time because she is slave she should also do all the housework, cooking etc.

In my own situation I can't do it all. i suffer from chronic fatique syndrome and have to carefully manage my energy level so that I can be of any use to my Master. Some days I can't even get out of bed yet alone go to uni, go to work, come home and spend another hour cooking (I don't beleive in just add water instant meals, all my sauces etc are made from scratch) then another half an hour doing the dishes, wiping down the benches, sweeping and mopping the kitchen floor. The days that I can do all that by the times its done its 9pm and time to go to bed so that i can hopefully have the energy to do it all again the next day.

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/11/2008 10:13:25 PM   
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I have to admit that when I met Sir I was not domesticated at all.  I could bake a few things but had never been taught to cook and grew up in a house where spotless wasn't good enough so I'd get panic attacks about housework when he'd walk through the door.  It's taken a lot of time and a lot of "good girl"s, but I have learned to cook and am learning how to manage keeping a house.  I do get overwhelmed sometimes and let things pile up around exam times and such, but I am a lot better about it.  About a year ago I came home and my perfectly organized living room was in shambles because Sir had bought me an HDTV for my birthday and was rearranging the furniture to accomodate everything.  Well, Sir makes a HUGE mess in any sort of situation like that (he decides everything must come out of every drawer and box), and I had a massive panic attack wondering how on earth I'd ever get it clean again.  If I get a warning about the chaos, I can deal, but to just walk in on it.  Yikes!

I'm becoming more service oriented and getting better by the day about housework, but it isn't something I'd choose to do of my own volition.  Sir likes to joke about how "domesticated" I am compared to who I was before, but I keep telling him it's all the times he tells me "good girl" that is brainwashing me.  I have about 10 years of school left before my ultimate goal of being a CRNA is accomplished, but Sir's already asked me what I want when I graduate CRNA school and take over bringing home the bacon.  I want a maid twice a week to do the heavy cleaning so I don't ever have to worry about it again.  He's fine with it.  Gives him more time to work with his photography and rebuilding cars.

Thanks to whoever sent the flylady link.  I've been trying to work out a schedule to where it's a little each day and manageable, and that site looks like it has more than a few good ideas! :)

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 12:09:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Willowmoon

Thank you for everyones thoughts on this topic. I posted it after being annoyed at the amount of people i have come across that expect that it doesn't matter if both the Master and slave are working full time because she is slave she should also do all the housework, cooking etc.

In my own situation I can't do it all. i suffer from chronic fatique syndrome and have to carefully manage my energy level so that I can be of any use to my Master. Some days I can't even get out of bed yet alone go to uni, go to work, come home and spend another hour cooking (I don't beleive in just add water instant meals, all my sauces etc are made from scratch) then another half an hour doing the dishes, wiping down the benches, sweeping and mopping the kitchen floor. The days that I can do all that by the times its done its 9pm and time to go to bed so that i can hopefully have the energy to do it all again the next day.


Willowmoon, I think this thread is a good topic to post about.  It's something that should be thought out a little more by some people.   It's called simply getting to know another person, what their limits or limitations are.   Limits can be physical as well as mental things.   There is only so far a person can go before they physically and mentally break down.  Not everybody can keep up at the same rate as others.

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 2:24:55 AM   
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I know more than one female submissive who used to be with a vanilla guy who did nothing while she did everything. It is an indirect way of feeling like one is serving.


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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 3:32:58 AM   
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I tried the sitting around and doing nothing scanrio a few years ago, it's lovely at first but after 10 days I was bored stiff! I'm not really one for sitting around doing nothing. I went around the house looking for jobs to undetake that my slave couldn't, the garden looked like it had been designed and constructed by Capability Brown, finally nailed wallpapering, something that had previously defeated me, painted windows, cleaned gutters, put up shelves and by the end of the fourth week if I'd mowed the lawn once more I'd of scalped it completely!
My slave bless her realised I was getting basically frustrated through lack of activity, I couldn't even chase her about the house as she was exceptionally house proud and wouldn't take any shortcuts.It was her wish to do everything she could around the house and do all of the usual domestic chores we came to a compromise and I took on the shopping, bill paying, some of the cooking. We were both very happy and if it wasn't for her job being relocated far overseas at a time where due to family commitments I was unable to even consider relocating. So we parted on amicable and we still talk today as friends.
Those were my experiences, I know others who have found the same problems, yet know people who are have enjoyed this domestic relationship for many many years. What I do always remember was my late grandmother who did absolutely everything around the house for my grandfather, and really enjoyed doing it. She came from a completely different generation where being a "good housewife" was something to really aspire to. Obviously times change, though it's not really the "western" ethic these days, I have a Lithuanian neighbour who's wife is almost the embodiment of my grandparents ideals. So it's an interesting parallel between our little world and vsnilla life in general.

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 7:33:09 AM   
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........and so, the domestic jobs you do or dont do around the house define or decide the emotional/mental role dynamic in your relationship???
 
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it's all based on a uniting.  United.  Companions.  Together in commitment towards a common goal.  Working together.
  Hopefully that goal is about more than just who washes the dishes and who mows the lawn....or comparing who gives and takes more in the relationship.
  Because, imo, if one person is always taking and never giving...and one person is always giving and never receiving>  it's doomed , no balance can be obtained on that tipped scale.
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 7:41:22 AM   
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that was nicely said.

It may look, from an outside perspective that the one who does the household chores is doing more while the other just flits around.  I know that when I am doing something that frees up time for him, I'm not enabling laziness but enhancing an environment that he enjoys and I reap the benefits of that.

I'm also still stuck on Stella's enegy thoughts.  I have possitive energy when I clean, I like being in a clean environment and I like providing that environment to those that I care about, be it my offspring or m'Lord.  I aslo know that it creates possitive energy for those around me.  I know that this possitive energy stimulates the creativity in my son and it creates a more productive side of m'Lord.  Some people just get stressed when their envorinment isn't pleasing and it stifles what they are capeable of doing.

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 9:02:57 AM   
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Due to her size & stature there were certain tasks she found extremerly diffuicult, if not impossible to undertake. One strange one was getting spiders webs off of the ceiling or ceiling light fittings etc, I had old Georgian house with very high ceiling and she wasn't good with heights, so I did that bit as even I need a ladder to reach some, we deep cleaned the carpets with a Vax monthly and I was needed to shift the furniture. She was wasn't great in the garden at times, pollen allegies.
In a way, by letting her undertake all of the domestic chores I felt like a spare part at a wedding! Though I loved the control and service aspect, and I was always felt that I was needed for more than just guidance as I simply can not sit round and do squat. She realised this quickly and as in any good relation we got together and re-worked the rules. If your not prepared to let the relation evolve it's doomed to failure. I admit I enjoy food shopping, allways have, yet I detest clothes shopping, so she had that task and thankfully my wardrobe improved somewhat as a result.
My grandfather always did his bit to help my grandmother in the nilla world, so why can't a good Master/Mistrress help their ward?

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 9:37:51 AM   
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should have read
to no one in particular  LOL  hadn't had my coffee yet<<<am blaming it on that...sheesh

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 9:41:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OmegaG

that was nicely said.

It may look, from an outside perspective that the one who does the household chores is doing more while the other just flits around.  I know that when I am doing something that frees up time for him, I'm not enabling laziness but enhancing an environment that he enjoys and I reap the benefits of that.

I'm also still stuck on Stella's enegy thoughts.  I have possitive energy when I clean, I like being in a clean environment and I like providing that environment to those that I care about, be it my offspring or m'Lord.  I aslo know that it creates possitive energy for those around me.  I know that this possitive energy stimulates the creativity in my son and it creates a more productive side of m'Lord.  Some people just get stressed when their envorinment isn't pleasing and it stifles what they are capeable of doing.


[I'm not enabling laziness but enhancing an environment that he enjoys and I reap the benefits of that]

Yes, I liked this too

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 9:42:08 AM   
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[so why can't a good Master/Mistrress help their ward? ]

You won't hear me say it LOL
   we help each other...perhaps in different ways or different areas  but we help each other : )

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 12:16:46 PM   
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LOL! The reality really is that we are all human. I do not have to ask Master for any help - he offers. He provides for us, I keep the house clean, dinner on the table, etc. I never found it too much to handle. Really - i get to stay home all day... why would I complain? He's not an ogre either - if i fall ill he's right there doing things, because, really - the faster i am well, the faster his needs are again serviced... this is why a poly might be good - unless all the girls fall ill at the same time... which might just be a nightmare.

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 6:26:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Hello willow.  I would love to know how you zeroed in on My life just now.

I am currently sitting home, alone and bored on a Friday night.  Why is this, you might ask?  It is because My sub was, in My opinion, too tired to attend Community At Play with Me this evening.  We literally turned the car around, en route, so that each of us could go to our alternative resting places, and skip the plans I had come up with.

Right now, I am very torn.  Yes, I honestly believe that My own sub should do what it is that pleases Me.  In other words, he most certainly should have been willing to make the trip with Me, and have O/our little bit of escape.  Due to other reasons, I needed to do this, but before even getting out of town, I could tell that he was not prepared in the way I feel he should be.  This might be skewed because of My personal perception.  Long story short, I did not feel that he wanted to serve Me, and I am now home this evening.

Needless to say, I am greatly disappointed.  (Does the phrase all dressed up and nowhere to go make sense to anyone?)  I have yet determined on how to handle this.  Part of Me says, "screw it".  I refuse to sit at home, when social opportunities are available.  I do not, for a moment, believe submission is an option, done when it is convenient, or taken with selective choice.

Yet, I understand his position, and am empathetic to his needs.  Had he told Me from the beginning that he could not live up to My expectations, it would have been different.  However, he did not come to Me, in the proper way, which he knows is important.

Perhaps I will have a better answer in the morning, when My mind is clear.  I would hope that he knows that submission is not an option,  It is My belief that either one serves Me or they don't.  It is his time to chose.



LadyPact, I definitely understand the miserable feeling of "all dressed up and nowhere to go". It's no fun at all. But I was concerned to read Your last paragraphs, sounds perhaps more serious than that? That You are questioning his commitment to You? I offer these words, hope maybe they help.

From My reading of the situation, it sounds as if he did try to do what he knows You wanted, ie to go out with You. That's why it got as far as being en route to the function before You chose to turn around and go home. Perhaps his mistake was in not being fully open with You and fessing up to how tired he was. As a sub myself, i know how very hard that is to do. Being the object of your Dom/me's disappointment feels terrible, so i can't entirely blame him for trying to put a good fist on it and turning up anyway. The fact that You could see he wasn't in the right frame of mind is due to Your own sensitivity and perspicacity ... but perhaps You might be judging his actions just a tad harshly. It's true that You and the whole family are under great strain at the moment anyway, and so i think that he would try anything than to disappoint You ... and yet, now he has. he must be feeling awful. As do You. Hope You can work it out!

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I must repost this and agree.  This might have just been the tired frustrated ramblings and there's no way to assess much based on just a few paragraphs, but it does seem to cut a little deeper than that.  Might I ask why the choice just to go home separately, rather than go home and enjoy a long hot relaxing shower followed by a movie snuggled on the couch together before bed?

It can suck no matter what when you have great expectations for a fun time and they fall through, especially if it's due to one person not managing things well enough.  But I think a heck of a lot of life is just making it work for you, however things happen to fall.

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RE: Slaves do everything while Master do nothing - 5/12/2008 6:35:05 PM   
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Subs have no idea how much WORK it is to keep thinking of new things to keep them busy. 

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