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sillyslaveboy -> RE: Do any ladies prefer beta males? (8/1/2008 11:27:37 PM)
Those two are just stereotypes. Often one has different zones of life. Behaving like alpha on the job/non-BDSM environment doesn't mean being unable to submit yourself totally under Mistress' feet. Giving up my status and temper in front of Hers [img]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m26.gif[/img], whenever i had chance to prove myself a worthy slave was never big deal for me. :) quote: ORIGINAL: Coupleofwhats I like a man who is successful and ambitious, but not a workaholic. I like a man who likes women. I like a man that I don't have to baby. I like a man who speaks up for himself when the need arises. I like a submissive who understands the difference between groveling and service. I like a submissive who is also a hardcore masochist. Very well put :) as if You were describing humble myself, like in some previous posts of Yours as well. :) If i ever be available in the area of NY, i would beg to let You know it.

thetammyjo -> RE: Do any ladies prefer beta males? (8/2/2008 6:19:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raechard quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo Why would beta = wuss? Beta is the second in position not the omega, omega would be the end, the wuss. I see this film in a whole new light now. nmta I love that movie. Those 1970s sci fi flicks are so great to watch. In that case though they are using "omega" to mean the last "normal human man" "on earth" or NYC as the case may be.

thetammyjo -> RE: Do any ladies prefer beta males? (8/2/2008 6:24:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ferns While this is off topic, and the point could have been articulated differently, I agree with lightscribe and bottomboy81's point. It's perfectly valid. I expect an equal and what I offer has to be compelling enough to attract what I want. If I seek someone with two degrees, a great body, a stellar career and financial security, of course I should be able to offer a comparable set of qualities. I wouldn't settle for less, why should he just because he is submissive? No one should on either side of the kink equation. Some of the dominants here, however, aren't interested in the so-called alpha thus we can't honestly answer lightscribe's question. Some of the dominants here all ready have one or more subs or slave so clearly we have found a decent or good balanced dynamic -- again our self-reflection is done and each have something of value to offer the other and frankly we may have not interest in sharing that with basically strangers online. So that means the pools of those who can sincerely answer lightscribe and others who agree with him is much smaller than every dom that reads or posts to the board.

lightscribe -> RE: Do any ladies prefer beta males? (8/2/2008 10:24:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RedMagic1 I just told Ferns, a domme, that she was wrong. Twice, pretty much. Nobody's calling me out for that. I disagree with her statements, but I respect her. Your attitude and behavior demonstrate disrespect of others. That is why you get pushback and I don't. That is also why I will be offline for the next four days, on an extended date with a woman I met on this site, who happens to be employed as a pro domme. I'm not a sub, but I do bottom at times, as does she. The problem you are encountering is not the fact that you are a bottom, but that you show little respect to others. Good for you, RedMagic1. Of course a couple of old sayings do apply here to this: "Those who wish respect must first give and earn respect." Many of the dommes on here demand respect without first giving a valid reason for why they should be respected in the first place. If they have not earned any reason to be respected through their actions or lack thereof, then why should I or any male submissive be interested in them? And secondly I have found also that: "Those who brag the most about themselves are the very same ones who have the least to brag about."

lightscribe -> RE: Do any ladies prefer beta males? (8/2/2008 10:27:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo quote: ORIGINAL: Ferns While this is off topic, and the point could have been articulated differently, I agree with lightscribe and bottomboy81's point. It's perfectly valid. I expect an equal and what I offer has to be compelling enough to attract what I want. If I seek someone with two degrees, a great body, a stellar career and financial security, of course I should be able to offer a comparable set of qualities. I wouldn't settle for less, why should he just because he is submissive? No one should on either side of the kink equation. Some of the dominants here, however, aren't interested in the so-called alpha thus we can't honestly answer lightscribe's question. Some of the dominants here all ready have one or more subs or slave so clearly we have found a decent or good balanced dynamic -- again our self-reflection is done and each have something of value to offer the other and frankly we may have not interest in sharing that with basically strangers online. So that means the pools of those who can sincerely answer lightscribe and others who agree with him is much smaller than every dom that reads or posts to the board. Thank you tammyjo for your honest response and thoughtful reflection on what I asked yesterday. Those though who have not taken the time to answer the questions I seek answers to and who answer flippantly or idiotically only validate my points further. So thank you for actually be the first person to give me an insightful and thoughtful response.

MistressSybella -> RE: Do any ladies prefer beta males? (8/2/2008 2:34:53 PM)
I prefer those who know themselves and accept themselves. What drives me nuts are those act in conflicting ways, being darling submissives one day and then trying to resist the next. I'll take a beta who has accepted themself and is happy, over an alpha sub stuck in limbo any time!

MISTRESSKUMA -> RE: Do any ladies prefer beta males? (8/2/2008 3:47:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MISTRESSKUMA Ever wonder why you're the only one on the block hostile and alone? Ever wonder why other people are successful and you are not? Ever wonder why others find happiness in this world, but you don't? It's the same world, isn't it? Are you hostile to the sidewalk too? You get what you put out so what your seeing in this world you hate, is a reflection of you. You are your worst enemy.

hermione83 -> RE: Do any ladies prefer beta males? (8/4/2008 12:00:35 AM)
quote: 99 percent of males are not good enough for most women on this site so I guess most women are looking for so called beta males who don't exist. If you're a woman looking for long term and have been here for more than a few months, there is some thing wrong with your expectations as EVERY SINGLE WOMAN on this site has no problem getting the opposite gender interested. I think many to most dommes on this site need a serious reality check on their expectations. If you are man or woman and have had 100s or 1000s of offers and remain here for months or years, you're expectations are obviously not functional. Are you rerring to just Dominant women, when you say women? You said every single woman has no problem getting a man on this site, so I'm thinking not. I'm not a Domme, but, I just had my one year anniversary here the other day. I'm sure I have had hundreds of offers, but I would definitely disagree that my expectations are not functional... Or that I've had hundreds of good offers. I've had a few good people contact me, and tried to explore things with all of them. Many of them would not like something within a few days and just stop talking (probably were not authentic....), ended up being ridiculously aggressive (telling me they loved me on the first phone call?), or it was they didn't meet my standards after talking a little while. But anyway, a lot of people I know here have found someone within the first week of joining - but later on were not happy. It takes time finding relationships in general... I'm sure there are people who found someone after years of being here..

DelilahDeb -> RE: Do any ladies prefer beta males? (8/4/2008 1:01:03 AM)
OP: Short answer? Absolutely. Long answer? Not interested in "types" but individuals. And the individuals who interest me are neither self-effacing nor aggressive. Assertive is a good thing; willing to have an opinion and share it, or shrug and say "I dunno." I'm not looking to play head games before we get to the dungeon; 's why my profile says I'm not interested in fantasy role play. It is the old basic interaction for me; friendship first. If I don't like you, why would I want to play with you? There's casual friendship, the sort I have with occasional play partners; and there's intense friendship, where a true bond of some sort forms. I have one of those relationships with a sub, and a few others just beginning to blossom. Lady Delilah Deb

firefey -> RE: Do any ladies prefer beta males? (8/4/2008 11:19:26 PM)
<quick reply> ok, going to try an explain a few things here. numer one, lightscribe, perhaps you simply meant your original post in the best way possible. but the way in which you presented your argument was wrong, wrong, wrong if your goal was insightful reflection. you start off with the story of a slovenly domme who has nothing to offer and is obviously not being realistic about herself and her relationship goals. you then ask ALL the dommes here on the forum to justify what they have to offer such as sub. scratch the ask. although the sentance is in the form of a question it is in fact a demand. just who do we think we are searching for men above our station? the order in which you lay out your argument, and the tone of your so called querys very clearly show you believe most (if not all) the dommes on this site are just like the one in your story. now if this is not what you meant, perhaps rewording is in order, because this is what came across. secondly, the bit about having to earn respect is generally correct. however, many of the women here have been around for quite some time and have already put in the time and effort to earn the respect in general of this forum. who are you exctly? how much time have you put into earning respect from others? and why should you, the very new kid on the block, be the dictator of who is worthy of respect and who is not? now, again, you may mean your coments in the best light. but with the rather terminal case of foot in mouth diseas you seem to have, it's very difficult to get past the very wrong (and confrontational) way you say things. unfortunetly i cannot say much the same about bottomboy81 who's band wagoning has me feeling a little sad. what a pitty someone with as high an oppinion of himself, as he seems to, does not have the compashion, individuality and compsure to go with it.

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