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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 7:39:06 AM   
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Also, Fey-  Pain means he is still alive.  Celebrate every breath you take with each other.

Thank you for the reminder. I did almost lose him during and after the surgery so, yeah I am treasuring just hearing his heart beat and his ability to breath independently, the warmth in his hand, his every motion or act or word.




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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 8:40:39 AM   
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*fast reply*
It's funny...when I realized that my relationship was moving into the realm of TPE, the thought of micromanagement never entered my mind. It's not how I think of it. I prefer to think of it as revolving my life around his preferences. I love the thought of dressing to please him. I love the thought of cooking meals to please him. I love the thought of knowing that I'm at Target at 1:00 in the afternoon because he wants new T-shirts. I love the thought that he knows where I am at any point during the day because he set my schedule. I don't think I've come across on this forum as someone who is mindless and needs direction. I think I'm fairly intelligent. The concept of being controlled in all aspects of my life by him is so appealing to me. I just really can't put it into words, but I know it has nothing to do with my inability to do that. It's not a rash decision and it isn't something that I craved with other bdsm relationships I've had. It became appealing with this one because we have the same connections, attractions, drive, whatever it is. It seems like the natural pregression with this one. Not with just anyone...it really is hard for me to put into words. I think the end result for me will be an emergence of who I really am.

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 9:02:54 AM   
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That sounds cool Aileen, and the best part is that you are open to that sort of evolution in your life.

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 9:09:46 AM   
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I don't think that TPE is necessarily the same as micromanagement. I also don't think that the slaves or submissives who practice it are mindless or disorganised without that input, if anything, I think it can be beautiful/inspiring. I just feel that *I* would feel "trapped," or under pressure to be constantly "on" if I agreed to that relationship dynamic.

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 9:27:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: feydeplume

I am honestly curious and please don't think i am being funny or mean or any thing.

How does TPE= micromanagement? I keep reading this and I am serious lost about where this idea comes from. Is it porn? is it some kind of icky cmail thing? Is it from some movie or something?

I have never seen a TPE that has micromanagement in it. M's are generally busy people and have and need slaves to make thier busy lives work well or at all in some cases.



I guess the rest of us aren't busy because we don't need them to help life run well.

To answer your question, the idea of micromanagement comes from the numbers of s types in the past who've wanted it. In establishing preferences, I think we all agree that it is many times preferable for some folks to be with someone else. That doesn't mean their life or practices are less or greater. It just means they're different.

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 9:31:15 AM   
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Where does this *micro-management IS TPE* come from?

In my case, it comes from things women have asked me to do to them/for them, both online and in real life.  Also, a few days ago, I had (Platonic) lunch with a domme who's been active on CM for a little over a year.  All of her subs have been online-only; I'm the first person she met in real life.  She told me about one man who works from home -- and she's a university student -- so she basically controls his every move via webcam.  She gets to see him, but she doesn't allow him to see her, except on occasion.

This has nothing to do with anything I've read, and everything to do with conversations I have had with real people, who are really doing it, or who really want me to do it to them.


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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 9:39:05 AM   
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I have never found anyone that has a better head on their shoulders than me, so it is impossible for me to fully submit. I started out that way, but found it isn't possible for me. On the flip side, I don't want all that responsibility of completely managing someone else. Nor do I want someone that dependant. So here I sit....just a kinky switch I suppose.

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 10:51:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: domiguy

In my hiatus from CM, met a few people and did some soulsearching, determined I didn't have one.

Anywhoooo,  back to the matter at hand.  Real relationships...Not the casual thang. Not the thing that is sporadic. Not online crud.  I mean domming, dating, real time, 24/7, seeing, fucking, breathing and talking to someone on a regular basis. Digging that person..The emotional shit, the twue connection. Not just sport fucking and seeing what can be done, or pushing the edge of the envelope out of curiousity...I'm jusss saying...Can you feel the love my brothahs and sistahs?

This is not only about me, but I imagine that it applies to many of the people that frequent this site.  How much of this is sexual and how much of it is an actual 24/7 thing put into practice?

I don't discuss relationships or my life out here. I don't frequent dungeons( I might just haven't gotten around to it..Which means I probably never will)  Would never post pics of a sub's tits, ass or snatch that I gave a rats ass about.  They are mine and not for publ;ic consumption.  Way too private....Oh my God! I am a fucking prude!  Maybe I have become my pa.  I'm pretty sure Pa was a twisted fuck.

I recently mentioned in a post that I consider much of "this" to be kink.  So I did some brain searching after I received a few pm's.  Some of the pm's were in agreement  but others went along the lines of.... "was disappointed that you are not "full time"...That you are not the 24/7 take control type of guy...You really suck ass."....lol.

I take charge..Kind of.  I'm the boss (sort of)...But you go your own way and I expect your decision process to be sound.  The decision making process does not always end with me. You still have your life.

Who has got the patience for TPE?  Who has the ability to cater and meet the needs of someone who is always in search of some form of reinforcement or that their actions need to be approved. Maybe my name should be "SortofDom"....But so much of this shit seems too demanding and simply over the top, at least for me.  Much of it seems to much like men just behaving poorly and boorishly and woman who lack the mustard to be heard and an overall grace.

I know that I am taking things to a rather extreme.  Maybe I am just into the kink and the relationship (master/slave or sub...TPE) is the reality.  Or maybe the kink is the driving force.

Not looking for halfbaked feedback in regards to me....Because, quite frankly, none of you are worthy.

What I want is an open discussion.  Based on frankness, honesty and reality.  I realize that there is no "one size fits all."

What drives you?  Could you really take control of someone...TOTAL POWER EXCHANGE?   Or, subs,  give up everything?.... Would someone who is capable of making reservations, spanks your ass and tells you to get the cum out of your hair enough?

Subs and Doms...What say you?



first, respected Domiguy...did someone really and truly tell you that you suck arse? really? if so...spank them posthaste.

secondly, there is a tremendous middle ground between "TPE" and "just kink." the vast majority of D/s lifestylers fall somewhere within that middle ground. but my question to you would be, what IS kink? perhaps i'm too anal about words and such, but i've always hated the term "kink" because it seems to denote a playfulness or light-heartedness that i just cannot relate to. but maybe i'm all wrong about kink...maybe it does not mean just fun and games with no solid foundation or purpose to it all..?? i have no idea.

anywho, when i first discovered the lifestyle, i honed in on M/s (a form of TPE i guess) and nothing else from day one...because i knew that the only path by which i could find fulfillment, peace, security, sanity, etc...was one in which my life was entirely in the hands of someone else. i did not simply want a Master...i needed a Master. like, yesterday. being very submissive and meek my whole life led to many disastrous, scary and generally terrifying situations for me and the life that i was living was quickly headed for destruction. a typical day in my life consisted of going to work and having my fellow employees dump their workloads on me (because i couldn't stand up for myself), being felt up by my boss (because i wouldn't complain), going "home" to my roommate who was allowing me to stay with him rent-free in exchange for all the pussy and blowjobs he wanted, and medicating myself with warm vodka and/or coke, special k, or whatever else i could get my hands on at the moment so that i could be numb to it all and have the strength to do it all over again the next day. physical abuse was common for me. rape, even more so. a group of coworkers having fun, a fraternity at my college, a cabbie that i caught at the train station...whatever. such was life. it got to the point where i didn't particularly care whether i lived or died, and was pretty sure anyhow that i WOULD die..probably violently, probably soon. such was life.

so again...i needed a Master. i needed that structure, guidance, discipline, and total control. someone who would care for me and protect me, but who would also make a productive and positive citizen outta me...for their own use and otherwise. also for me it is a great comfort and source of security to know that i have no more choices in life...and that i have a Master who would sooner bury me than let me go free, or to another. i have a place and a purpose and that just feels good.




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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 10:54:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

*fast reply*
It's funny...when I realized that my relationship was moving into the realm of TPE, the thought of micromanagement never entered my mind. It's not how I think of it. I prefer to think of it as revolving my life around his preferences. I love the thought of dressing to please him. I love the thought of cooking meals to please him. I love the thought of knowing that I'm at Target at 1:00 in the afternoon because he wants new T-shirts. I love the thought that he knows where I am at any point during the day because he set my schedule. I don't think I've come across on this forum as someone who is mindless and needs direction. I think I'm fairly intelligent. The concept of being controlled in all aspects of my life by him is so appealing to me. I just really can't put it into words, but I know it has nothing to do with my inability to do that. It's not a rash decision and it isn't something that I craved with other bdsm relationships I've had. It became appealing with this one because we have the same connections, attractions, drive, whatever it is. It seems like the natural pregression with this one. Not with just anyone...it really is hard for me to put into words. I think the end result for me will be an emergence of who I really am.


I'm not convinced after reading some of the thoughtful replies in this thread that we're all so very different.  The first part of Aileen's post above, for example, reads exactly like how I feel about my own relationship.  It diverges at the point where set schedules come in and in being controlled in all aspects. We're just not interested in those things, although others are, and I totally 'get' the attraction to that life.

But the devotion and arranging my life around his?  Sure.  I'm thinking that's actually got more to do with love than relationship dynamics; at least for us.  Maybe it's not all domly dom, but he has a fair bit of devotion to me as well, and thought regarding how his decisions affect my life.  A good bit of sacrifice on his part, etc... I don't know what to call it.  It just is. :)

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 11:44:38 AM   
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I've more or less come to the opinion that the vast majority of slaves and submissives fall into one or more of the categories below...

Slaves seeking a Master, because they "need" one, but in reality, are using it as a way to protect themselves and avoid dealing with their own emotional issues and problems.

People looking to fulfill some form of power or control kink that takes precedent over actually having a strong and deep relationship.

People who bring a pre-canned expectation of what a dominant or submissive "should" be that trumps who the other person simply "is" and thus strangles the relationship, resulting in tons of problems when reality falls short of the ideal.

I've, more or less, taken to dating through normal, vanilla mediums as opposed to BDSM mediums to circumvent and avoid all of that. We attract people compatible to us and my personality is more than enough to bring around the women who desire strong male leadership and masculinity. It's really quite nice to be with a women who simply prefers that the man makes the decisions without any concern to whether her actions are proper submissive behavior and likes a guy to pull her hair without any concern as to whether or not he meets the proper standards of a dominant.

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 12:06:28 PM   
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I certainly don’t think I can magically attract submissive types without them knowing I'm into things. There are all types of submissives, good bad, smart dumb and all other classifications as diverse as  NHRA drag racing divisions. Pretty much the same with Doms.

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 12:28:00 PM   
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Very long post....Snore.


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ORIGINAL: missturbation
So you are allowing others opinions of you to make you question your judgement on whether you are a dom or not?


Egggggsactly!...Actually it was the input from several others that got me a thinking...At first it was that they were kind of downplaying my interests by alluding to the fact that without TPE there could never be solid a connection between us.  Then I got to thinking..."What the fuck!  I could do this shit with my eyes closed...How dare these lowly subs question my authority! Off with your britches and on your knees!  But then after some searching I determined I don't have the energy, patience nor the overall desire to participate in something so time consuming. TPE IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITIES.. I know I would get bored with my creation; I would abandon my frankenstein...I would never get to shout.."It's Alive!"

The cops would be stretching out the crime scene tape and chalking around subsusies' lifeless corpse...When one of the detectives shoots me a sideways glance and says, "Man, I have never seen anything like this before in twentysix years on the force.  You stabbed her in excess of six hundred and fifty times...Can you even begin to tell me what happened here?

I stop my incessant rocking and look out into the distance and slowly mumble, "She kept asking whether I wanted SpaghettiOs or chicken tortilla soup?"  I told her, "I don't fucking care, make whatever you like.....But the bitch wouldn't let up...She kept asking and asking and asking and asking and asking and asking." I lower my head into the palms of my hands and begin to quietly sob.  A short time later when I have collected myself, I ask the nearest officer, "I am feeling much better now, is it okay if I go fishing? I mean, what the fuck! Clearly this is a case of justifiable homicide."

I don't want to have to locate you a new brain..I want to use the one you have. I want a live woman not some cadaver.

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ORIGINAL: cjan
Yes, real people who are sane and balanced and don't need someone to micro-manage their lives are preferable over the alternative to many folks. I also prefer friends and lovers who don't fit comfortably into little boxes and are not obsessed with labels and "lifestyle" paradigms.


This is a solid thought.  Many like BSB, Lusciouslips,The Heretic LaT,Ivy,Ocean, Michael and many others kind of go along with this notion.

I think TPE is based upon the concept of micromanagement.  Otherwise we would be discussing CPE (Conditional Power Exchange)  PEbth (Power Exchange by the hour) or HAPE (Half Assed Power Exchange) .  I am a strong proponent of HAPE...In fact, one of it's founding members. There is talk of the issuance of a commerative coin.  On one side is a girl tied and bound on all fours left completely alone...The other side is a fine reproduction of me fly fishing.

I can't take the time to tell you what to do.  I definitely don't sweat the small shit and would expect you to follow suit....

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

My goal is 24/7 TPE. I want it all and we are slowly working towards it. He knows where I am at any time during the day. He plans on eventually controlling my food, clothing, my job, schedule, everything. The fact that he wants that and I want that does not mean that I'm incapable of making sound decisions. We both feed off of the intensity of that level of control.
What she said...exactly.


You two are about as compatable for a TPE as a dog is to playing the violin...You would never survive. It's a complete fantasy.

Your opinions would mean shit....You two are extrememly opinionated and wouldn't begin to take to that lifestyle.

You would bail the first time it didn't meet your standards or live up to your heightened and elaborate fantasy...Today you are going to fuck your most expensive pair of shoes, this afternoon you will blow the homeless and later I think a touch of forced "bi" might just put a cap on a great day...Ooooh, I'm sorry by using the word "touch" I actually meant a good five or six hour session of some fine ass pussy eating.

Good luck with that.  Have you ever considered  joining HAPE?  You would both be perfect.

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ORIGINAL: DarkWhipster

I have read through any of the above responces and see merit in all of them. The fact is either Y/you are or Y/your not. Those that are accept it and do not need to flaunt it or dramatize it. They know just exatly who they are and can not change regaurdless of relationships or circumstances of life.
  Those that are not may feel fleeting sparks of Dominancy or sub/ slave tendancies. But only in some arena where the role play is being acted out.
  Those that ARE , are very capable of the 24/7 lives. However it will take two that ARE. Any other combination would fail.
  Those that are not will enjoy sparks and intermitant surges of the life and lets hope they realize this and limit themselves to their abilities.
  I was raised in this and am the 4th generation. My Sons are being groomed in the same ways I was. They are the 5th generation of a very old and steadfast tradition. And yes they will manage every aspect of Their lives as well and Their spouses and childrens lives. For Disapline at every level is demanded and expected.


Perhaps you should introduce your sons to Aileen and phatslut....I'm not a professional matchmaker but I can spot when two people are heading in the right direction....A union truly blessed by God.  Relocating to Idaho doesn't seem like such a big deal.  They should be inspired to serve the fifth generation well...Or even "The Next Generation."  You wouldn't happen to be a Trekkie by chance?

You all seem to share the same ideology...The gals should have no problem fitting in with their 'ho counterparts. No thanks necessary, afterall,  I'm an idea man.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Is a lion a lion one minute and a cat the next, or is he a full time lion? I think a life going through the motions with a spot of fun now and again is about as appealing as hacking indiscriminately at my knackers with a scythe.

In terms of Total Power Exchange, I don't know what it means and quite frankly I don't really care. Assuming you're asking whether or not total authority is the reason for being, then, yeah, that's for me. I don't believe that holding the levers of power can only lead to a relationship where the woman is utterly devoid of the ability to employ her reason: you can use those levers as you so wish. Think of the Rule of Law: the law is not an absolute authority, but it certainly is the authority; you're entitled to an appeal, but you must obey the decision of the law (assuming you want to avoid the consequences of the alternative path).


I do like this notion. A woman can have her thoughts, as silly as they are. But I am the final judge.

But like most things that come from over the pond it is hard to take seriously...Probably the accent, or maybe that nothing of use has come from that puny island in the last century or so.

Even the Lion needs rest...Though proud of his pride, it is not uncommon to send the yatches scurrying off into the bush...Just to watch them lick the bush, or just to get them out of our mane for a few fucking hours... Send them out to do some hunting even though we have just gorged ourselves on the hind quarters of some beautiful and breathtaking water buffalo.

It is good to be the King,  but every King needs a break...You keep wearing the crown for too long and you end up dead on the crapper.

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

That sounds cool Aileen, and the best part is that you are open to that sort of evolution in your life.


The phone rings...I answer, "Hello"....Lil' cute subsusie squeals at the sound of my voice and says, "I'm at Target, just thought you might want to know where I am."  I pull the phone away from my ear and stare at it for several seconds in complete disbelief. Then slowly respond.  "If you are the target of a mob hit, you can call me...If you accidently get shot while at target practice you can call me....Never, ever, ever call me to tell me that you are at fucking Target again...Are we clear?..Now go fuck yourself." 

It is nice to know that you are in someone's thoughts...The meaningless gift or hummer. Offer the unexpected.  A simple flower, the card or the hand written note of appreciation. Though personally not familiar with these tactics I have heard that they have reaped tremendous dividends for others.

Feb 12th was Lincoln's birthday...Pretty wise dude.

"You cannot help men  by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves."

"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy."
 
Poor Lincoln. His wife was one crazy bitch.  I'm sure he finally enjoyed the sweet release of death.
 
And lastly in close, Mikey and BSB, no one wants to hear your monotonous praise for each other that has continued after the "break up."  It's sickening. 

Like so many others I wished you relationship would have ended with a degree of harsh finality.  A door slam,unforgivable passed words, slapped face, black eye or the highly coveted restraining order.  I have kept in contact with some of my previous fucks and it appalls me.

I wish your relationship would have ended badly. One of you should be emphatically stating that your time together was like your life was put on ice and that the 342 days that you spent together were ripped away never to be recovered...Similar to the activities of a kidney stealing crack ho.

The damage was irreparable. 

I leave you now...To go see what is happening in the Halls of HAPE.

I wish you all.....

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 12:31:49 PM   
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Poor Lincoln. His wife was one crazy bitch. 


He was also a depressive.

But can't you still appreciate another person's growth in experience and being open to things.  Even if you are not.  Aileen sounds happy and I'm happy for her.  I don't necessarily dig that level of micromanagement, I know that I would find it stifling, but each should find their bliss.

I'm still waiting for the universe to unfold...


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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 12:38:51 PM   
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Hi, domi, and welcome back.  (By the way, Firm says to say hello, too... he's done so a couple of times, but both threads were deleted.)

For me, I don't think I could take the "full-time TPE" that many seek and enjoy.  I'm a pretty saavy person and very capable of managing myself.  Firm is pretty saavy, too, and takes advantage of my abilities to make his life easier.  He decides when and what I get to decide, and that currently covers quite a bit. 

It works for us. 


Makes sense. It's a mutual arrangement of needs meeting needs.   

Say, "hello" to Firm as well. Even though he is crazy as a loon....lol.  Have you worn a Michelle Obama mask to bed yet?

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 12:41:51 PM   
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Say, "hello" to Firm as well. Even though he is crazy as a loon....lol.  Have you worn a Michelle Obama mask to bed yet?


Hilarious!!! 

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 12:51:28 PM   
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Poor Lincoln. His wife was one crazy bitch. 


He was also a depressive.

But can't you still appreciate another person's growth in experience and being open to things.  Even if you are not.  Aileen sounds happy and I'm happy for her.  I don't necessarily dig that level of micromanagement, I know that I would find it stifling, but each should find their bliss.

I'm still waiting for the universe to unfold...



Just like you ungracious subs to tear down a President...I don't remember you having anything positive to say about Bush either.

No, I like my yatches stunted and tiny...Virtual midgets.  Why are there no midgets on CM?  I know they like being called "little people,"  fuck them all nonetheless.

We like Aileen, however, she is going down the wrong path...Everyone knows it.  If someone else would put up this type of post last year, before my time in Africa, she would have been all over it.  Never going to work.

You gots to wonder about this kind of control....I wouldn't want to be this far up a woman's ass.

A woman is hard enough to deal with, subs are even more demanding, the uber sub comes along with a manual which explicitly shows where to place the barrel of the gun in your mouth to insure success,

I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one.-- Jay Z

I aint got time to bleed.--"the Body" in Predator

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 12:59:19 PM   
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I want to join HAPE also... where do I sign up and buy a coin? 

I will first need to resign from my position as the President of PEWIWI (pronounced: Pewy).  Power Exchange When I Want It.  We do not have a coin yet, but you can buy a commemorative flogger which doubles as a pancake spatula.  You need to call Franklin Mint to get one... but if you act now... you will recieved a pair of forcepts, which also double as an apple corer... just pay $85.00 for shipping and handling.

"Mutual Arrangement of Needs Meeting Needs" MANMN . I like that one also.

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 1:10:50 PM   
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Poor Lincoln. His wife was one crazy bitch. 


He was also a depressive.

But can't you still appreciate another person's growth in experience and being open to things.  Even if you are not.  Aileen sounds happy and I'm happy for her.  I don't necessarily dig that level of micromanagement, I know that I would find it stifling, but each should find their bliss.

I'm still waiting for the universe to unfold...



Just like you ungracious subs to tear down a President...I don't remember you having anything positive to say about Bush either.

No, I like my yatches stunted and tiny...Virtual midgets.  Why are there no midgets on CM?  I know they like being called "little people,"  fuck them all nonetheless.

We like Aileen, however, she is going down the wrong path...Everyone knows it.  If someone else would put up this type of post last year, before my time in Africa, she would have been all over it.  Never going to work.

You gots to wonder about this kind of control....I wouldn't want to be this far up a woman's ass.

A woman is hard enough to deal with, subs are even more demanding, the uber sub comes along with a manual which explicitly shows where to place the barrel of the gun in your mouth to insure success,

I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one.-- Jay Z

I aint got time to bleed.--"the Body" in Predator


believe it or not some guys/Dominants actually NEED to have that level of control over a woman and her life as well. not because they're insecure, not because they want an excuse to treat someone like garbage, but simply because that is what fulfills them in a personal relationship. my Master has a very controlling/my way is THE way mentality...he can't even do the casual sex thing, because for him if a woman isn't under his authority when she wakes up, goes to bed, goes to work, makes all the major decisions in her life, etc...then he's not going to feel in control sexually, it would feel false to him. He likes keeping me tightly in his grip because it leaves no room for outside interference and unknowns. He doesn't have to worry about gossipy, oprah and dr. phil-influenced friends attempting to pollute my mind or "rescue" me...he doesn't have to worry about my having either the will or the means by which to leave him...he doesn't have to worry about whether or not he comes first, second and third in my life. He has developed and maintained an environment which ensures his own happiness and peace of mind.

i don't this makes either him or i crazy, just with different needs than some.

imo it all really boils down to personalities...for a Dominant, is your personality such that you need to be in control ALL of the time? perhaps just MOST of the time? or do you not really give a flookie about control when your cock isn't hard? that to me determines the difference between those who pursue D/s as reflection of who they are, and those who pursue D/s as a kink only.

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 1:31:35 PM   
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believe it or not some guys/Dominants actually NEED to have that level of control over a woman and her life as well. not because they're insecure, not because they want an excuse to treat someone like garbage, but simply because that is what fulfills them in a personal relationship. my Master has a very controlling/my way is THE way mentality...he can't even do the casual sex thing, because for him if a woman isn't under his authority when she wakes up, goes to bed, goes to work, makes all the major decisions in her life, etc...then he's not going to feel in control sexually, it would feel false to him. He likes keeping me tightly in his grip because it leaves no room for outside interference and unknowns. He doesn't have to worry about gossipy, oprah and dr. phil-influenced friends attempting to pollute my mind or "rescue" me...he doesn't have to worry about my having either the will or the means by which to leave him...he doesn't have to worry about whether or not he comes first, second and third in my life. He has developed and maintained an environment which ensures his own happiness and peace of mind.

i don't this makes either him or i crazy, just with different needs than some.

imo it all really boils down to personalities...for a Dominant, is your personality such that you need to be in control ALL of the time? perhaps just MOST of the time? or do you not really give a flookie about control when your cock isn't hard? that to me determines the difference between those who pursue D/s as reflection of who they are, and those who pursue D/s as a kink only.


I dig you and you know it.  You are always a great read.  For being whatever it is that you are, you make it seem so effortless and commonplace.

However, there is soooo much that is disturbing within your words. If it makes you happy that is great, I guess...  I always wonder how one determines the essence or gets to the definition of one's happiness? Moving from a small cage to a larger one?

I really don't know. It gets to the point that it doesn't really matter what I know or think I know.  Inevitably it is your life.

Fuck. You get older and you see the world within different spectrums. That which you do and partake in and that which you should do or wish that you would have done.

Would I wish your life upon a daughter? Not in a million years.  Would I want a daughter or sister to be treated in the manner that I have sometimes treated women?   Only a complete hypocrite could answer in the affirmative.

Frank Slade: Well, then, take the fuckin' WAX outta your ears! GROW UP! It's fuck your buddy. Cheat on your wife. Call your mother on Mother's Day. Charlie, it's all shit.

Frank Slade: Now I have come to the crossroads in my life. I always knew what the right path was. Without exception, I knew. But I never took it. You know why? It was too damn hard.

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RE: Domiguy or not so domiguy? - 2/17/2009 1:46:59 PM   
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imo it all really boils down to personalities...for a Dominant, is your personality such that you need to be in control ALL of the time? perhaps just MOST of the time? or do you not really give a flookie about control when your cock isn't hard? that to me determines the difference between those who pursue D/s as reflection of who they are, and those who pursue D/s as a kink only.


Yanno, that attitude is pretty annoying, though even more from people (not you) who haven't actually tried anything but online D/s fun and games, and claim they are somehow more "twue/real/whatever" than people who have been doing BDSM for a long time.

For me, D/s, when it happens, does go beyond playtime/sexual stuff, but I don't really consider it to be an intrinsic part of my personality, and I definitely wouldn't be satisfied with "a vanilla relationship as long as there is D/s involved" like some folks here. I haven't had a vanilla relationship since just before I turned 21, and some compatibility in that respect is necessary. I don't really have a lot of strong "must use this toy" kind of kinks. Why do you and the other folks with this attitude feel the need to denigrate people who enjoy BDSM without feeling that D/s is a personality trait?

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