barelynangel
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Goreans base their life on a set of moral conducts from a series of fictional writting. Have choosen to adapt/mirror behaviors and protocols from said work of fiction.
None the less Goreans are just as Human as everybody else. There are some really amazing people who are Goreans and there some Assholes too.
The one thing that the Goreans have in common is that they choose to mirror or adapt a way of life based based on standards presented in a series of fictional writtings. Some people will simply toss out a few books, while others will embrace some of those books.
Umm actually, if you read the books and know the books as well as historical societies and some philosophies you will find MOST of what the books is based on is taken from MANY philosophers and historical societs that existed LONG before Norman even thought of the word Gor. Most of the behaviors and protocoals you find in the books can be found to have existed in MANY slaveries historically and just named differently. Many of the standards and such are all based on standards that existed LONG before Norman thought of Gor.
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Didn't realize GOR was Shakespeare......
GOR is good sci-fi fantasy.....
Its not Shakespeare - it have some nietzsche, plato, Aristotle etc, as well as some of the understandings of historical society beliefs systems of Men and women etc. And i am Gorean was slave for many years and now simply a woman who is free, and i personally think the sci-fi is not all that good lol.
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GOR is good BDSM material
If you believe this you know NOTHING of Gor.
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I do enjoy fantasy, but it is important to differentiate reality from fantasy.....
We all know what you are implying here and this is how misconceptions are made == do you always run around trying to comment on stuff you don't know?
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There are FREE WOMEN in GOR, but they must work hard to keep their FREEDOM, which is not that easy.......its a constant struggle...according to the author...
laughs seeing that FREE WOMEN on Gor far outnumber SLAVES (which were less than 5 percent i believe it was 2 %) on Gor and slaves were sometimes brought from earth, i would say that maintaining their freedom wasn't all that difficult. -- guess you missed that part in your knowledge. This is an example of how reading the books as more than just fiction helps derail misconceptions such as this quoted statement.
BEfore the mods believe i am attacking people, i am posting the definition of ignorant because it DOES apply to what people are doing here: 1. Lacking education or knowledge American Heritage
Merriam -- 1 destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society> ; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b: resulting from or showing lack of knowledge ...
General Comment -- This is where the issue comes in, people LOVE saying fictional books - yet most people haven't read the books but like to ignorantly run around saying they "know what Gorean is." We get the same problems over in the Gn forum. You have women who have never been owned by Gorean Men and yet they will run around telling people they KNOW what Gorean slavery is because their slavery "looks" the same. You have people who say well i am not Gorean BUT this is what Gorean is. And yet, intelligent people it seems many times see Gorean as a reason to allow all the other beliefs they have about not being ignorant about something and using common sense etc when posting ABOUT something (something i see many people in this very thread whinge at people about ALL the time in these forums), but when its about Gor -- they somehow believe its okay to speak ignorantly and GENERALIZE ABOUT ALL THINGS GOREAN because they met someone they don't like. If someone came on this forum and said all switches are confused because i met someone who blah blah blah etc, they would jump down that person's throat with barefeet and overhanging toenails to scream about them Generalizing. If someone said all Male Dominants are overbearing and dangerous because i met some guy who said A, B, or C. -- same thing would happen. However, when it comes to Gor, this seems to be an okay concept to apply -- why because its GOR and people tend many times to be ignorant of the subject and draw conclusions and use quotes in the books to "prove their points (quotes they get hacked from content btw they found on websites), and yet most have never read the books and i can pretty much guarantee they haven't studied it for what's below the fiction. And what's more MOST PEOPLE WHO NEGATIVELY comment on Gor ADMIT THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW what its all about, they just heard through some grape vine that slaves die, or all women are slaves and so they simply instead of doing their own research to really understand just take the ball and run because its cool to comment negatively about Gor. To me, if you have never read the books and you KNOW (this is where you integrity comes in btw) you KNOW you really have no clue what Gor is other than what some stranger told you and you haven't looked into it SERIOUSLY) then why would you comment NEGATIVELY? The people who do seem a lot more intelligent to me about that and they are hypocritical to their own standards and they jump on people in this forum who do the same exact thing to THE STUFF THEY KNOW AND UNDERSTAND. And then they say Goreans should not???? Get real that is baloney.
BTW has anyone read Aesop Fables? Do you think that those are just fictional writings that tell nothing but fiction? In 2nd grade it was used to teach me about how stories could teach something easily used in a person's life because of what's under the fiction. You may want to apply this with Gor IF you are interested enough to negatively opine about it. There are MANY things in Gor that aren't readily available however, to those who aren't able to see beyond fiction. You have to be capable of this -- seems many are not however.
There are VAST misunderstandings about Gor and VAST misinterpretations about Gor on this thread, for one the comments about Dominant women, the idea of DOING Gor is a BIG hint someone has no clue what Gor is, the comments on slaves, and the comments Goreans live by a FICTIONAL understandings.
I also know many people speak out of spite because they haven't been given a warm and fuzzy welcome or acceptance with Gorean -- well i hate to tell you this people but THIS SIDE OF THE BOARD IS JUST AS BAD by MANY of you people who feel you should be given same by the Goreans. This side of the board is FULL of sarcastic, rude, arrogant people who comment on threads. I could name a few but i am sure the mods wouldn't be happy if i did. But if you have integrity you know who you are. So why make it see like some people in the Gorean forums are WRONG for speaking such to people when people do it over here and it seems to be accepted and okay by many.
I think before you all start throwing stones at Goreans, you really should not live in glass houses. To me, if you are willing to opine on something you know you have no real clue about (and your integrity should guide you here), then you should be willing to do the research to make sure you have it right. And reading websites for chatrooms, and listening to third parties, or reading quotes isn't research -- reading the source material and investigating from there tends to be. If you refuse to then why comment negatively in ignorance? Meeting someone does not give you KNOWLEDGE of Gor enough to generalize.
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< Message edited by barelynangel -- 5/9/2009 5:46:45 AM >
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